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Twin O/B Sonic 03-22-2018 05:24 PM

Way cool.

I remember looking at an Imprrisl and thinking, WTF is this?
Clearly Imperials version of something else.

I remember walking away shaking my head.

Winning 07-29-2018 01:09 PM

Rampage and Imperial
 
Rampage and Imperial were the only two companies commissioned to complete the 27ss.. they were all checked for build quality during construction to ensure cigarette quality. That should answer anyone's questions iif theseare worthy! I also have a squadron xii HIN# ASLPW006..88 I know how incredibly strong it is...

Winning 07-29-2018 02:24 PM

Rampage and Imperial
 
Rampage and Imperial were the only two companies commissioned to complete the 27ss.. they were all checked for build quality during construction to ensure cigarette quality. That should answer anyone's questions iif theseare worthy! I also have a squadron xii HIN# ASLPW006..88 I know how incredibly strong it is...

78CIG24 07-30-2018 10:16 AM

Hi,

While Cig might have checked for build quality of the hull (I am personally dubious), I know for sure they didn't check or supervise the rest of the builds, at least for sure the 3 or 4 of the Imperial knock-offs I have seen and inspected in person compared to the real thing, no comparison IMHO.

Cheers,

Dave

sheerant 07-30-2018 10:43 AM

The Imperial 27 was completed in Jupiter Florida and they were all Aronow..... The quality is the same of any Cigarette or Magnum these hulls were Don at his best building Cigarettes and using other companies to title them. He had a strict Non-Compete and he was always making extra money on the side. The movie coming out on August 16th "SPEED KILLS" tells you all about it.

78CIG24 07-30-2018 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by sheerant (Post 4640755)
The Imperial 27 was completed in Jupiter Florida and they were all Aronow..... The quality is the same of any Cigarette or Magnum these hulls were Don at his best building Cigarettes and using other companies to title them. He had a strict Non-Compete and he was always making extra money on the side. The movie coming out on August 16th "SPEED KILLS" tells you all about it.

I don't know what the movie says...but, when I look at these photos I see I big difference, and these are just a from a quick google search to find some comparable pics...and just shows the "surface" of the low build quality IMHO.

Real...
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...9d1ad6d346.jpg

Fake...
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...93c0ac769c.jpg

Real...
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...17223df14a.jpg

Fake...
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...cf5c8fb75b.jpg

It's just that every Squadron copy I have looked at in person, I came away feeling like I had looked at an old Bayliner vs an old Cigarette. It;s hard to put into words, it was just my first hand impression of the build quality.

Have a good one,

Dave

sheerant 07-30-2018 12:39 PM

Only difference I see is the helm on the other side.....

jtr2kwl 07-30-2018 12:54 PM

Can't comment on the build of the imperials, but i can certainly say that the squadron's are absolute beasts. I've crawled under the bow several times, and it is an unbelievably strong bulkhead layout. It can handle pretty much anything thrown at it, and flies true and straight. Handles on rails right up to 96, where it props out. Should mention ours has HIN XEX, although from what i understand it was completed by cigarette after don merged the two companies.

AdamGolf 11-14-2022 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by sheerant (Post 4610921)
I purchased a 1986 27 Imperial seems to be the exact same boat as they cigarette Squadron 27 but the helm is on the starboard side. Was wondering if anybody has any more information regarding the 27 Imperials where they were manufactured if the mold did come from cigarette or if they made their own mold from a 27 Squadron? Any information would be helpful.

did you find out any more on this, do you still have yours?

AdamGolf 11-14-2022 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by Winning (Post 4640612)
Rampage and Imperial were the only two companies commissioned to complete the 27ss.. they were all checked for build quality during construction to ensure cigarette quality. That should answer anyone's questions iif theseare worthy! I also have a squadron xii HIN# ASLPW006..88 I know how incredibly strong it is...

I also have an ASLP Hin #008 do you still have yours would love to find out more.


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