I have to agree with this quote. We have seen it before. Only now he is bringing other members down to his level.

A toast to the dumb asses! If we didn't have them our hourly rate would be much less. :)

You PP guys make me laugh. PP might be a nice boat, but a Cigarette it is not. You can chit all over the Cig, who cares? In the end, PP is just another wannabee Cig and inferior if you really want to talk about Build Quality and such. Yes, I'm sure there may have been a month or two, when PP had their act together and built a super quality boat, like Cig. But keep in mind, not better. And what about the other months? Consistency is what makes a legend. Finally, enjoy your boats for what they are and don't feel bad that their is not a number one on the side. And go find another tired Cafe to pass to make yourselves feel better. You are not kidding anyone, including yourselves.

Now see,,,who is the down lever here???........did i call anybody names ??.....and it was actually a CIG guy that started all this .
:eek:

All i can say is ok...if thats how u feel thats fine,,,to me the CIG is not the better boat ,,,not worse either,,,just not worth the pricetag.
And like i said before,,,i had one and been on allot of them ,,nice boats but ,,,,just another boat.

Stay safe and watch out so u don't get passed by me.:grinser010:

Everybody is entitled to their opinion. I am glad you like your PP. They are nice lookin boats. I always enjoy their profile as I pass them. :D:D

lol,,,the funny thing is i don't even own one anymore !!!:party-smiley-004:

But hey ,,,,,no bad feelings i like lip ship ,,,but like i said to much green,,,and still only a boat .

PP ,,much cheaper and still smoke Cig's if not modified.
Whatever,,,the point is ....everybody loves they'r toy !!
So have fun on the water .

Congratulations you pics of all 4 33's made before no one else bought them...because why?

We are all entitled to our own opinion. :drink: I love all boats, including cigs, ol's(heck we owned one) pp's etc. They all have their good points and bad.

Now drag the Gladiator up to Champlain this weekend for the fun run so we can finish this discussion

Um, no. If you check out my avatar that would be the World Championship boat from 1998 with Craig Barrie at the wheel. Then, Lucky Strike's TS boat (2000 and 2001?) and the Rio Roses boat. Those don't seem like late 80's early 90's to me. Farily recent.

And, it doesn't take a highly modified TG to run well. How about twin 675's and 102mph+ in a side-by-side Bravo/ITS setup? I would think that would give a PP a run for it's money.

I find it funny when another boat manufacturer references Cigarette as a point of comparison - just like the sign that used to be in PP's office.

There's only one original, kinda like Coca-Cola. After all, I never hear someone ask "Is that one of them there Powerplay boats?";)

I agree,,,but those did not make a legend out of CIG,,as well as me being National champ with my Aero-tek .
I i haven't forgoten the Cig in europe ,,,allthough it's a skater.:eek:

To u my friend ,,3 of those u are correct ,,but 1 is the old LOVE MUSCLE race boat in 1999 ( it raced from 1996-99 )
Ooppps and it won as well a couple of times in B-Class.:eek:

No need to apologize! Actually, thanks for not attacking me personally on this discussion :angry-smiley-038:.

OSO Steve's opinion of Powerplay boats is a good one, but as one of my great friends, he isn't always into the "whole package" when it comes to toys.

I always 100% agreed with him on the build quality of Powerplay's being right up there with the best. The fit & finish however, just doesn't get it done for me as far as reflecting how nice they are under the "skin".

If it's just the "name" that carries Cigarette through the rough times, then Apache should be booming. Outerlimits, Nortech, Fountain, Hustler, etc are all priced in the same bracket as Cigarettes. OL is probably consistently more, even on their "standard" setups, so Cigarette definitely isn't asking too much for their boats in comparison to their competition?

And I like PP's as well. It is a beautiful world. Let's boat!!

WHHHAATTTT ,,,CIG has competition ????:eek::grinser010:

i think they are all overpriced. :party-smiley-004:

Like I said I think the PP is great looking boat, well made and all joking aside I really don't have anything bad to say about them. The PP guys took offense with different leauge comment, so let me say it another way. First of all you are right Cigs are definately more expensive, but that is because the resale is also much better. I believe the quality as well the name is what is behind that. Second Daredevils comment has been all about top speed with the same power, rember you can put nitrous on a honda civic and make it fast for a quarter mile......but it is still a Honda civiv:poopoo:

Ahhhh, case closed.:gfight: :ernaehrung004:

Thats why i said with the same power!!!!!!!!

And i bet the PP will stay together just as long as your sled ,,,,or even longer.
The only thing that is nicer in a cig ,,is the cabin and all the stuff u don't need in a boat.:hitit:

Go out there and get smoked buddy !!!!!:grinser010:

Exactly, the true colors finally show.

Somebody post a pic of Clay's Bullet with the Clayamtes and show these guys why else Cigs demand a higher price

Amen reverend!

U missunderstand what i am saying,,,why should i pay allot of money if i can get better or same for less !!!!!!!!!!!!


THATS THE CASE !!!!!

POST 59 + 60
Also if u guys think u need a cig because of the chicks ,,,I FEEL SORRY FOR YA !!!!!:eek:


PEACE:evilb:

But, but, but, what you have doesn't even run... :point::daz:

Rob,,i was waiting for youthe last 2 days ...lol u finally made it . hehe:grinser010:



by the way my boat runs now . LOL

No thats it for me guys,,nice talking to u but rob is here so i leave . :eek:

Peace

Case Closed!

Well dayum, if all i had to do was show up to make you leave I wouldnt have watched people bang you for 2 days.

I sincerely apologize to everyone that pmed me that he was running his mouth and to slam him. You guys were doing such a great job that you didnt need my help.

honestly I'm all tingly knowing that I have this power now and I didnt even make fun of the euro-mullet... :D

CHIT,,i knew i should have come to OC to safe that room #3 toilette from u and make u sleep on the beach .:evilb:

HE HE

all good Rob,,,i don't care any more about your bashing,,allot of friends of mine told me not to take u serious because u can't be.:grinser010:

UT OH did i say that ,,,...........chit yes i did. lol:coolcowboy:

Very entertaining thread.