'05 39' Cigarette Top Gun
 

just saw a this boat on Ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...AQ:MOTORS:1123

- have a couple of concerns -

1. the seller has only ONE feedback in history
2. asked the seller a question 2 days ago and still have not received a response (auction ends today)

Does anyone know this boat? I'm a cat owner with egg beaters, so vhulls & inboards are new to me. I'm interested in the deep v's as I was looking for a smoother ride offshore (back surgery is a killer). Plus, figured vhull would be easier to clean then climbing under a tunnel every outing (wife doesn't help - it takes me 2-3 hours to clean).

have lot's more general questions, but I'll start with this -
P.S. read the cigarette forums yesterday - about 11 pages until my eyes fell out!

Looks like a sweet boat...They only made a few (like 3) of the center steer styles. Some people like them, some dont. This is probably one of the first 3 or so 39's they built. Don't know the boat personally but one thing I did notice, if you end up bidding/buying, I'd check the hull. From the pictures it looks as if the boat is sitting on a hoist that has not properly been fitted for a stepped bottom. This can cause damage to the hull.

Hey thanks for the tip on the lift, never would have thought of that. The 15 hours is what makes me want this thing, beside the boat itself, and the reliable power of the 525.

That is a neat boat - and if I ever run into money and can step up would be one of the ones I would want and here is why - I believe that is one of 3 with the Enclosed head. I will always own a boat with an enclosed head - my wife will make sure of that!!!

Boat didnt meet reserve as max bid was 125k .Would 185k , no trailer be going rate in this market ? Isnt a trailer like 15k ?

I can't comment on market value of a 39. Not sure what the premium is over a 38.

A nice NEW Myco or Manning (which that boat deserves) will be 15k....

Well the same boat was relisted for the 2nd time, it didnt sell and highest bid was 130,100 no trailer, 15 hours. I dont get it, how couldnt this boat not sell as it seems perfect ?
Is it because the newer models come with bigger power and better drives making the smaller 525s less desirable.
I no guessing does no good but what is this boat worth today. What would you offer 4 this boat and trailer is still needed. This is also the newest ,low hour and cheapest cig 39 ive found and it still doesnt sell. I see dealers with same boat asking a 100 thousand more, i will asume they will never sell those.
i wont say the manufacturer on this forum as i dont wont to upset or start war but i saw a 2007 42' rhymes with ton, with 525s, low hour for less money then this cig. i am confused. Any opions are welcome

homo seating.. also the 39s are a little underpowered with the 525.. still a very nice boat.

So what is a homo ,underpowered cig worth these days lol

Never understood why people call it that! I prefer to have a woman riding shot-gun with me.

Jeff is just a little different... :)

:):angry-smiley-038:

I think four maybe five.. this one gold, purple, skull, billet,..?

Yes i have a pretty girl to sit next 2 me[wife]. no homo

So whats a good deal[what should i offer] for this vessel or keep looking for bigger powered boat?
Would you guys pass on this boat if not what would you guys offer?

didnt some of them come with a dual steering stations,,,or could you add it later,,thought i read that somehere

This boat is down the street from me. The boat is in excellent condition. It actually has only 15 or17 hours on the boat since new. He is too busy with life to use it, and hates to see it sit. I Know the boat could be had for 185,maybe 180. The boat has 2 helms so you can steer from the center or the right. This is the best deal on a 39 by far.

seriously....I'd only consider it a "homo seat" if you were a homo and the guy next to you was a homo:eek::drink: Otherwise, I think it's actually an interesting set up (one I'd have no problem running) and the cabin layout is waaaaaay cooler than the standard 39 cabin (imho).

I would not pass on it if I was in the market...Don't think anyone will tell you a number to offer. But I would, if you're serious, call the guy, go look at it and show him you're serious about taking it off his hands. Invest some time with the owner...I have found that works for me. Someone posted it can be had for 180...start below that :evilb:

I heard 170k, guy called on one I had and told me 170k would buy it. I said thats a real deal, buy it. Maybe BS.

Ok txs for the advice guys, makes sense to spend time with owner and see were it goes.
Just a thought, race vboats are side by x3, are they all homo's lol

I agree - I think the side by side seating like that is pretty cool, and think that my wife would really enjoy it. Especially when we are just cruising, or crawling up and down the local creeks having a drink.

Plus - like I said earlier the cabin layout would be great.

Take this with a grain of salt because it is coming from a guy who isn't, nor will be anytime soon, in the market for a boat of this caliber, but if I was planning on keeping the boat for several seasons than, no, the "smaller" power wouldn't scare me off. You would have to rebuild it eventually anyways, most likely before you sold it, and you could always pull the 525's and sell them and repower with something with more grunt, either down the road, or before you sell it to make resale easier.

525's are a pretty desireable used block so you could probably come out pretty well going to larger power.

That boat will blow drives right & left with any engines big enough to make repowering it worth it. An upgrade to 600hp, isn't enough to notice vs the cost involved, and 700+ will make the XR's the weak link.

Take the boat for what it is, and don't try to make it something it's not. As it sits, it will be reliable as hell for YEARS to come. If you start repowering it to go faster, mess with the drives, etc, you will gain more headaches than mph.

Stay with the 525's...
It just seems the guys who have bigger power can't boat weekend after weekend...stock guys are almost always on the water...and boating past the big power guys who are limping in. :)

if this really goes for $180k then it is gonna put a hurting on earlier 38 TS's resale. NO?:eek:

They already go for low 100's

Besides, how much more $ does it take to build a 39 over a 38 with same options? Extra little bit of glass/resin, one driveshaft, one set of long tailpipes. Thats all I can think of.$10K?? Maybe? I know Cig charged way more but...

also not sure if i would want the "first" of anything

Just my o2 ct.. and worth every cent..

Its a unique boat, runs mid-upper 80s, runs on pump gas, whats not to like for that price!:hitit:

Point taken, drop a foot of boat and price drops 30% to 40%. Maybe the 39s were overpriced back in the day, and this is the market that is speaking at the moment.

Nothing to do with cig but i recall looking at cats 36 feet last summer and they were 100.000$ more.

Very Good advice.

If you want more wait for the 700/NXT boats to come down. But as it is that boat will run for years if left alone. I for one really like those 39's.

If this boat can be bought for $170k, it's a great deal. You may not have the fastest boat, but you will have a reliable wave crusher with a superior quality build.

i looked at this boat b4 i bought my 38. The boat is immaculent in and out. awesome paint. Just all three of these boats that were made had counterweights put in the hulls which made them slower than most. head and "homo" seating on the same side of the boat, they needed the weight to float straight. All 3 were for sale for a long time. Cool boats though! I like them. You would have a beautiful boat...better have something nice for the seat next to you!:lolhit:

Well here it is for the 3rd listing on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2005-...=p4506.c0.m245

I say bids dont go over 140.000. There another 2005 39 525s with ac and gen with 1 bid at 150.000.

Wow!!!!

4 homos where made

purple
skull and bonez
this one
600s boat now overseas asking 400k

lol :drink:

Only thing I think I would change about that boat is the digital "TOP GUN" down the side. Not to my taste

This boat is absolutely gorgeous. Fantastic TAOD paint job, enclosed head and runs well w/525's. I remember when 525 hp was considered exotic, so it's funny to hear people say how underpowered the boat is. The boat was originally sold by Offshore Performance in Grasonville, MD. They are no longer around but having seen and run the boat all I can say is it is very nice. As far as the side-by-side helm seating goes, it's not bad and correct me if I wrong, but aren't almost all Outerlimits and most of the bigger Active Thunders side-by-side helms? By the way it's purple/red twin is for sale, asking price $260K.

How much weight did they add and where do they put the weight?

Does Active Thunder and Outerlimits do the same thing?

Negative. We've built more than 4. :D :D