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bshzba 12-15-2009 10:40 AM

info on 46 rr
 
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We just bought it and are getting ready to start redoing it. Its a 2002, it had v12s in it , and was for sale at lake cumberland for a long time. Anymore info or pics would be great. We redone a revolution a few years back and wanted a new project, And get into a step hull. Thanks Heath

seafordguy 12-15-2009 10:48 AM

DAMN YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:angry-smiley-038:

That is the only T/S full cabin RR that I have ever seen. Cut for twins - honestly probably one of my ULTIMATE boats in the world. I would have loved to have tried to figure out a way to make that boat work but I just don't have the debt capacity right now.

I know this is tacky but I would love to know what you paid for that thing via PM - just want to know whether or not to kick myself in the nuts or not.

Keep us posted on your progress, maybe in a few years I could make you an offer.....!!

getchasum111 12-15-2009 10:58 AM

i tried to buy it a few times....and made an offer to Randy....it had the torque v12v's....did you get the engines with it...

BLee 12-15-2009 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by seafordguy (Post 3006214)
That is the only T/S full cabin RR that I have ever seen.

I'm not sure I follow you? All of the TS Rough Riders have that cabin, other than some that have the cover girl half cabin?


That particular boat has spent most of it's life for sale. The Torque V-12's it had in it, never ran right, so the boat wasn't used much as a result. It's a really nice boat, color & option-wise.

If you put the effort in this boat, that you did for that Revolution, this could end up being one of the baddest RR's out there!

bshzba 12-15-2009 11:03 AM

We just cut the full cabin out of our Revolution and made it a hlf cabin to reduce weight. We are going to leave to cabin it this. Its getting new paint (black, charcoal, silver, and white) new int, carbin fiber dash panels, make it a staggered, dry 6s and 800hp na donivans.

10x 12-15-2009 11:09 AM

A friend of mine owned it when it had the V-12's in it. Could never get any big speeds out of it. Pretty boat for sure, but I hope you "stole" it on the $$$ end, cause you've got a "project" for sure. :eek:

The first thing I'd do, is move the sea strainers forward and off to the sides, cause they're a total PITA to get at where they are now. :drink:

Good luck on your project, and keep us informed on your progress.

thisistank 12-15-2009 11:28 AM

Congrats! Whats the plan for power?

Did you ever sell the revo?

Brandon,if you look at the cabin its set up more like an older (90's) cabin. I was under the impression ALL the T/S RR's had cover girl cabins except this one.

10x 12-15-2009 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by bshzba (Post 3006228)
We just cut the full cabin out of our Revolution and made it a hlf cabin to reduce weight. We are going to leave to cabin it this. Its getting new paint (black, charcoal, silver, and white) new int, carbin fiber dash panels, make it a staggered, dry 6s and 800hp na donivans.

I would'nt waste my time putting in anything less than a Merc 900. A friend of mine had an 04 with the 900's that he bumped up a lil to about 950. At the 900 hp, they pushed the boat 102-103 mph, at 950, it ran 104-105ish. Those engines were traded in for a pair of 600" 1150's, and the boat ran 111-113 full of fuel and 10 people on board.

I know where the original engines from this boat are right now, and they're completely freshened up, AND for sale. If you're interested, let me know. I think I have some pics of them still in the boat. It was in my driveway for 2 years. :grinser010:

Frank

bshzba 12-15-2009 11:51 AM

No motors with it. We got a deal on the boat, I alrealy have motors 800HP na alum. donovan blocks. We are a little light on power but the motors and lighter than blower motors. If the boat does 90 I will be happy. And yes I still have the rev. it will be for sale soon. I also have a trailer for the boat and do all the work myself, So I will be in the boat right when it is done.

seafordguy 12-15-2009 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by BLee (Post 3006226)
I'm not sure I follow you? All of the TS Rough Riders have that cabin, other than some that have the cover girl half cabin?

Sorry - I meant with an enclosed head.....

sunsation96 12-15-2009 12:16 PM

bshzba, congrats on the boat did you pick that up form harrison marine? also I see your location is houghton lake are you from there? I travel there often! big boat for houghton.

bshzba 12-15-2009 01:25 PM

Revolution Pics
 
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We did end up getting the boat from harrison marine, but no it's not going out on houghton. It will stay down in Saint Claire Shores. Also, here are some pics of the Rev once it was done.

BraceYourself 12-15-2009 02:00 PM

If your looking to break even or make a buck be carefull what you spend. When you get the boat fully finished and pristine it will bring 200K to 250K tops.

thisistank 12-15-2009 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by bshzba (Post 3006302)
We did end up getting the boat from harrison marine, but no it's not going out on houghton. It will stay down in Saint Claire Shores. Also, here are some pics of the Rev once it was done.

Nicest Revo I've ever seen!

bshzba 12-15-2009 04:21 PM

Thanks, I know when you look at a project like this you will end up with twice as much $ in it then you planned, And even at that I will be under the $200k mark, and have the boat just how I want it.

seafordguy 12-15-2009 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 3006361)
Nicest Revo I've ever seen!

Agreed..... I remember being in awe of it when it was posted on here a year or two ago.

wananewboat 12-15-2009 04:51 PM

If you can make a Rev look like that I can't wait to see how this turns out. Keep the pictures coming.

Top Ven 12-15-2009 07:13 PM

02 Top Gun
 
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Looks Like Mine !!

damdonzi 12-15-2009 07:53 PM

Congratulations and best of luck on this project. You have set a pretty lofty bar with the Revolution work you have done.

That RR has always been one of my favorite paint jobs. Pretty sure it was used in an advertisement and it was just ominous. Reminded me of the old Ajac Hawk ad.

seafordguy 12-15-2009 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by Top Ven (Post 3006483)
Looks Like Mine !!

Yeah - GREAT!!

PromoProducts-BP 12-15-2009 09:32 PM

I'm amazed you're able to do so much of the work yourself bsh. That Revolution looks amazing! Can't wait to see the 46' RR transition!

bshzba 12-16-2009 05:32 AM

Thanks, Top Ven it looks alot like yours. First step is getting the transom done and test fit motors and drives. Does anyone know what they put the X-den. at on the 46? What size prop they are running with 850HPs? Thanks

10x 12-16-2009 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by bshzba (Post 3006657)
Thanks, Top Ven it looks alot like yours. First step is getting the transom done and test fit motors and drives. Does anyone know what they put the X-den. at on the 46? What size prop they are running with 850HPs? Thanks

When with the 900's, they come with a 18x32 5 blades. Although, Strip Poker has the 900's and it has a pr. of 17.5x32 5 bladers. The 32's let you spin the engines about 5850-5900 rpm with the 900's. Don't know what kind of rpm you're lookin for.

Measured the bottom, and found the prop shafts to be 3" below the bottom running edge of the boat. That was by running a straight edge along the bottom inline with the prop shafts on the drives. Now quite sure how you measure the X, but hope these pics can give you some ideas. I do have more if you need to see them.

Frank

bshzba 12-16-2009 11:43 AM

Thanks, That is what I needed to know. I have 17x29 5 blades on the rev. and I am over propped. I only turn 5000rpms. I would like to spin 6000rpms so with less power the 29s might be close. Has anyone tried spinning the props in on a 46 and did you gain speed and how was handling around the dock?

kgz3 12-16-2009 11:55 AM

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BraceYourself 12-16-2009 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bshzba (Post 3006779)
Thanks, That is what I needed to know. I have 17x29 5 blades on the rev. and I am over propped. I only turn 5000rpms. I would like to spin 6000rpms so with less power the 29s might be close. Has anyone tried spinning the props in on a 46 and did you gain speed and how was handling around the dock?

Mine spins in as far as I know. i thought all the staggered 46's spun in. Handling around the dock is great. Spins on a dime in place.

Is this in or out. Whatever it is it works great.

offshoredrillin 12-16-2009 02:27 PM

Are you going to stagger it or leave it side by side. the transom now is set up for 6's, if you run it the way it is set up now it will be pretty close. minus the weight of the V12's compared to V 8's. measure a number 6 then see where center is on the transom cutouts. it should get you very close.

As for turning in on staggers, it gives more speed and is only slightly less around the docks. Side by side motors and turning in again gives more speed, and on my 42 there was no difference in dock manners.

In theory if you keep it side by side and turn them in you should carry the bow a little more which will help you due to the loss in hp and the additional weight of the full cabin.

For measurements sake, check the length of the engine bay to other 46's to see if it was made longer to accommodate the V12's or if it is the same length.

OL40SVX 12-16-2009 02:42 PM

Basically all stagger step boats spin in. Good luck on the 46!

BraceYourself 12-16-2009 03:25 PM

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I was told once, that when you pick up a prop is how to tell RH or LH. If the blade fits in you hand then its that side. My boats RH goes on left and LH on right, I'm pretty sure.

offshoredrillin 12-16-2009 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by BraceYourself (Post 3006877)
I was told once, that when you pick up a prop is how to tell RH or LH. If the blade fits in you hand then its that side. My boats RH goes on left and LH on right, I'm pretty sure.

from the pic, yours are turning in. its the rotation of the prop as to whether it turns towards the center of the boat or the outside.

PromoProducts-BP 12-16-2009 04:41 PM

Brace Yourself, do you have any other sweet pics of your 46? That is one sexy machine!!! Have your 1075s been reliable (I know you just had them freshened by Merc)?

BraceYourself 12-16-2009 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by PromoProducts-BP (Post 3006928)
Brace Yourself, do you have any other sweet pics of your 46? That is one sexy machine!!! Have your 1075s been reliable (I know you just had them freshened by Merc)?

Very reliable. Just add fuel. Zero problems with the engines. 100 hours logged so far since I bought the boat. 35 hours since mercury rebuild.

cougarman 12-16-2009 05:59 PM

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Credit goes to Mercury for these,........but may help if you need them.


Jon

bshzba 12-16-2009 06:08 PM

brace yourself, thats one of my favorite RR. I am going to make it staggered. The engine bay look like the normal size but I will make sure before I start cutting. Iam going to have to move the outside stringers ( they are to far from the center stringer.

BraceYourself 12-16-2009 06:20 PM

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Pic when my engines were out for refresh and props turn in. Good luck on your boat. It's a great hull and you will have a gem.

10x 12-16-2009 07:16 PM

Jeremy, that is one beautiful painted 46 ya got there. :drink: I've never seen a 46 that had the props turning out, they all turn in. I believe the 29's will be about right with 850 hp. Take a measurement of the engine compartment, or just measure the bottom of the hatch. You might want to call Cig to get the proper measurements for the stringers, or we can measure a few of them ourselves. :grinser010:

Good luck, keep us tuned in, and if ya need any advice, just ask.

PromoProducts-BP 12-16-2009 10:09 PM

Thanks for the additional pics BraceYourself. Again, beautiful boat!!

bshzba 12-17-2009 05:45 AM

Thanks for all the info guys, I will keep you posted on the project when we get rolling on it. Also what gear ratio are you running in the 6s. Thanks

10x 12-17-2009 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by bshzba (Post 3007209)
Thanks for all the info guys, I will keep you posted on the project when we get rolling on it. Also what gear ratio are you running in the 6s. Thanks

In the few I've had contact with were all 1.50

ktron 12-17-2009 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by fountain40icbm (Post 3006860)
Basically all stagger step boats spin in. Good luck on the 46!

Most do but the 39 Cig's turn out.

I love the restored 42 Revolution!!!! Good luck with the 46RR, can't wait to see the finished product!!!!


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