Cigarette 38' Top Gun 1990 Silver anniversary edition
 

Any pics? Is there any difference between this and a "regular" Top Gun. Going to look at one next Wed, wish me luck.

After almost 100 views and no feedback, I'm guessing that there is no difference between this boat and any other Gun of that era. This boat will require a transom replacement. Is it worth keeping the TRS w/ Borg Warner trans (fresh rebuilds) and later upgrading with Konrads? Not interested in Bravos, might as well go with a bigger drive if you're going to go through the trouble of re-rigging for a different set-up. Just my 2 cents.... Any help or advice is appreciated, I've been chasing Cigs around for a year trying to find the right one, this is it.

What power/price is the TRS boat? Are you looking for big drives?

Power is 454sc Hawk motors, fresh. I have a lead on some nice Pfaff engines (900s???). If I get my hands on those, I will need some serious hardware out back. I'm not going to discuss price.

Do you have any pictures of the boat?

If this is your ultimate goal, you might consider buying one turn key. It will probably be cheaper in the long run and you will be boating right away.

I am traveling next week to have a look at it. It's the earliest I could get away from work, the anticipation is killing me. This boat has some neat history behind it. I don't want to give too much away because it's not my boat yet.

I would venture a guess that it is like my "pro-Series" cafe - nothing but but an advertising gimmick.

Yeah, I'm not real sure where the "Silver Anniversary Edition" came from. Not familiar with any "special edition" '90 Top Gun, it's why I asked.

Im pretty sure some one will know the boat i mean i dont but some one should. Im not sure why so secretive about it. I dont think any one would buy it out from under you seeing as it seems you are alreadygoing to check it out and have contact with there owner and yvour just looking for some info and help on it
-Mike

I didn't mean to come across that way, sorry. I just tend not to count the chickens before they hatch. I just know how it works, I get all emotionally involved and then it doesn't happen. I'll give more details when and if the boat is in my possesion, or after I take some pictures next week (I'll post them up). Also, out of respect for the current owner, I don't want to publicize all the info, this boat is not being advertised as 'for sale'.

My 93 Bullet had "Pro-Series" What year was your Cafe?

The reason I ask is because I may know the boat. Wasnt LS's Gun an anniversary edition, or Platinum edition, something like that?

My cafe is one of the Pro Series ah ok maybe it isnt.
Frick good luck looking foward to pics im intrested to check it
-Mike

Rick, i think you are right... the flamingo may have been a platinum edition... was it kevlar or carbon?
Where's bobby when u need him?

My '89 Cafe is a 25th Anniversary Edition. About the only thing that I know that is different other than the paint on the side stating it, is a small plaque in the cabin saying its a 25th Edition, with maybe a commemorative number.

I can check this weekend if its noted any where else.

It was a 90. Only thing I can really tell "came with it" was the decanture option in the cabin. Which would be nice but I am not going to fill up decantures with liquor and then let it bake all day in the sun and all week while the boat is covered up!

I always thought it was just the embroidery work in the upholstery and that was it. Get a good survey and calculate the whole project and what your time off the water (potentially) might be. For the cost of a turnkey boat vs. a project, there are too many deals out there today that could make a huge restoration not the best use of your $$$ is that is your priority.

This might be around the year Cigarette made only 6 or 9 boats total? Was it 1989 or 1990 or 1991? Could never remember the exact year. Anyone recall?

LS's boat was the Pink Flamingo, it was a Platinum edition (just a name, nothing special) carbon fiber boat with 525's...went to the wesrt coast and I thought I heard that it caught on fire or something like that.....

you are right, I knew it was a something edition, also, I knew something happened to it, never heard the full story, and that was why I was posting here, if it ended up being the same boat I was going to put him in touch with Steve or Bobby.

Didn't catch on fire....It delaminated after hitting a submerged log in the Pacific Ocean. Almost sank. Supposidly wasn't fixed properly. Might want to research if its the same boat.

Thanks for the feedback guys. Always amazed at the knowledge & history on this site. I'm pretty sure this isn't a Carbon or Kevlar hull. I'll post more info when I go to look at the boat. This project is well worth it. I have another boat in the water to tide me over while I fix this one.

My 92 Bullet says " GT1 Group" in the far back corner of the sides. Anyone know what that means? Gonna start new thread about this. Maybe someone knows something.......

I'm interested in the math implied here... If Cigarette was founded in 1969, how could a boat built in 1989 be a 25th anniversary model? How could one built in 1990 be a Silver Anniversary Edition?

This one?

Back4More:
No that's not it. However, I love the clasic look of that boat. I'll probably go in that direction with this one. I like simple, classic, timeless. Some people may think that's bland, but I think less is more. I leave at 5 am tomorrow to have a look at it, I bet I won't sleep tonight!

Well ??????:party-smiley-004:

Well.... I just got back, went from Cleveland to Florida in one day. Proabably stay overnight next time, it was a 22hr round trip after all was said and done. This is a typical Top Gun, no special edition. This will be a looooong project but one that will be worth it (to me, 12 mo). Needs ALOT of work. It won't be the fastest rig on the water, but I know I'll enjoy it, use it, and when all is said and done, I'll have a nice boat and the way I want it laid out. It's amazing how much more efficient the new hull designs are compared to the '90 hull design. Faster, lighter, less HP. Maybe in the future.....

I have a plan for this thing, nothing crazy, wave crusher with overnighting in mind. Hey, it's my way of getting into the game, can't afford a twin step Cig right now. I'll post pics later today.

craigslist boat 18,500.00. you answered that ad fast.

Like I said, you won't find this boat for sale. I'm going ahead with the transom replacement. I'll start a build thread. Anyone have a nice used trailer? Why do people upgrade to Bravo drives instead of bolting on Konrads with these heavy TRS boats? Kurt said 800 hp 1 yr warranty, seems like a good deal to me. JBonz, you know a good glass guy up by Sandusky? My plans are to redo the boat with original equipment/hardware then upgrade power and drives over the next few years. A young working person like myself doesn't have the kind of scratch to go out and buy new drives and motors all at once. However, I do have mechanical ability, a big shop, and no wife or kids which helps.

Frick sounds like me.

Thought I would resurrect this thread and make it a build thread. Transom is being removed this week. Should be done in two weeks. Then I'll get a trailer, pick it up, and bring it up to sunny Ohio to my shop. This thing is gonna be the death of me...

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...0TopGun008.jpg

Should I keep the lights in the front or fill them in???

I've redone my entire 1990 Top Gun..it was a "Pro Series" so if you have any questions let me know

Awesome, thanks for the offer. Here's the list:

Replace transom
Repaint Bilge - change color from red to white, by others
Cabin - New upolstery, by others
Cockpit - New upolstery, by others
Outdrives - blast and repaint, by me
Motors - clean up, polish, repaint, by me
Cockpit - paint, by me (flooring suggestions welcome)
Hull - paint (white), by GlassDave???

Boat has 454 Hawk motors w/ B&M blowers and fresh TRS drives. I'll start with these. I may purchase a nice set of 572s w/ blowers in the future but I have to get the hull straight first. I also would like to upgrade to Konrads in the future.

Also, I contacted a company about the opaque electric glass. My idea was to flush mount the glass over the lights in the front of the hull so when not in use, you can tint the glass white. I'm trying to convince them to let me help them R&D it. It may happen, it may not, is there any interest in bringing this to market???

Take out the lights and glass up the holes. They add to making the hull look dated.

derigged and ready to hack out wood

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...e/P1012081.jpg

Rot-be-gone

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...e/P1012092.jpg

bad stuff out

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...e/P1012093.jpg

WHOAAAAA..... That is the exact Paint Job my Cafe has except mine is blue where yours is red. Mine is a pro-series.

I would keep the lights because I woudl LOVE to have them at night. Look at some of the boats with the lights in them - I don't think they date them, but that is just my opinion...

Wow, I know what that feels like. Congrats on the project!!! This is the first I have seen of it. I have been pretty busy on my own and havnt been online much..... So when will I see that up at Venition??? :) Congrats again!! Cant wait to see it in person!!
Jr.

Yeah, like I said before. This thing won't be in the water till next year. I want to take my time and make sure everything is right. This thing will be the death of me at the ripe age of 28......

Frick im only 36 and want to shoot mu self over getting these engines done. and thats just the beginning
-Mike