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looks like a heck of a deal. it's listed here as well

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o33328-en.html

another
http://daytona.craigslist.org/boa/1673944607.html

odd that these are still for sale...wish i had the extra money...that detroit boat would be at my dock...

The daytona one seems like a better deal
-Mike

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The one in MI is the one my uncle calls me once a day on to get me to buy it. lol

http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/boa/1702663502.html
:lolhit: Seriously????
-Mike

This one has been for sale for years. Perhap, they should lower the price.......:eek:

http://www.stlouisboats4sale.com/ind...name=Cigarette

Id buy a 38 fountain before either of those 20's. Some people don't have any graps of reality of thy think its 24K solid gold.
-Mike

Yikes! That is an interesting ad because that is my boat, purchased in 2008 from the guy who bought from the owner listed in the ad in 2006! It was Cig's brochure boat scheme; see pic's below (Neil driving).

As for the price, good luck finding another 1995 (in similar condition) for less. (Brandon / General Lee's is a 1995) The 95's have the full fairing. I think there were only a dozen or so made back then, plus the 6 Lip-Ship boats from 2007? plus Rick / OSG's which was the first and had the fairing added to an older boat.

Sorry TG. Didn't mean to step on any toes here!

So, is the boat for sale or is the ad a carry-over that has not been removed. I'm wasn't saying the price is out of line as there really aren't too many good comparisons. Just that I know it's been listed on that site for years and the price never moves.

The ad is a carry over from 2006. And the price has moved...it's gone up!

lol good man tom. i think brandons is the same fairing as yours. the later models have the raised cowl like a glad and a pad bottom as well. the original 20's have a round keel. I believe the pad was added in the late 80's early 90's.

Ricks is an original flat deck, same as mine, Phil built a fairing and glassdave is doing mine. Phil bought 5 hulls and built them, one was his, his brothers, the blue one in Mich, the other blue one in Ohio (i believe), and i believe the silver satin finished one that was supposed to go to Russia.

Gone up you got 15-20k there tops if you paid that did it come with a clown suit:evilb:

Another obvious boat dealing guru...I can tell straight off you are quite the authority, I'm just so impressed with your class and intelect. So show us all, where is that cherry 1995 Cig 20 for sale for $15-20K? Or any 1995 for that matter? Heck the subject boat in this thread is a 1980 for $16k. If you don't appreciate the novelty and history that's fine, there are plenty who do.

I'm sorry do you have a Cigerette tatoo also:angry-smiley-038:History a 20' boat with a gas pedal &TRS:bsflag:OOps 1995 Bravo& different windshield when you get 50k for it let me know!Oh yea everything I own is priceless:eek:Everybody elses stuff is junk :evilb:I know your type settle down!:kiss:

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o31976-en.html

I guess this is junk too.

Very nice still not worth 50k a brand new Donzi 009 or comparible for a few more bucks??Thats if you wan't single engine boat you better love it after 50k also stay on lake or bay go in ocean won't be very nice for long:eek:

Who said anything about the ocean?

So what would you rather have for $50k?

a. A new bass boat
b. A new wakeboard boat
c. A new Donzi plus some cash
d. A cool Cig 20 with limited availability

Its all relative and to each his own.

Club
What kind of boat do you have ? :party-smiley-004: or are you a Tire kicker


Rick OSG

I would pick D. How fast is the one with the 550 SC?

Club? Ur Sweet.:coolcowboy::kiss:

I would guess 80.

A guy here in Oklahoma just got $65k for his, and Phil is getting around $100k for the ones he's done. They are a niche boat, for people that already have the boats you have listed. Cash buyers than want essentially a collectors item boat to keep forever. Omerta has a 30 Unlimited with 700's for rough water days, and I have a cat. Our 20's are rare boats, and not meant for the same conversation as ones looking for "bang for the buck".

My boat & Omerta's are almost identical. They were built at the same time, & have the most current hull & deck. Both have fairings & pad bottoms, as opposed to the true vee bottom & windscreen found on the classics.

The ride between the classics & omerta's & I's, is pretty significant. Both deliver a great ride whether having a pad or the classic vee. The pad was added to the later ones, to increase top speed. Once the boat is on the pad, it rides almost completely out of the water.

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I had the chance to drive Johnny Marshalls last Summer, and that foot throttle is a blast. I struggled around the dock with it, but out on the water I got used to it & had a great time.

That 76 with the updated paint & interior is a great looking boat. Omerta's is probably my all time favorite along with Tom Abrahams. I looooove mine to death, & plan to do a few updates this Summer to it, with the idea of hanging onto it. I just get a little sad when I think of not having it, after looking for YEARS to find one in this nice of condition.

It also fits perfectly under my outdoor bar, lol:

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That Pic makes me really thirsty. Soon brotha Soon,

A duplex that brings income waterfront of course!

Thanks girls & gay guys always say that!:angry-smiley-038:

20' very nice boat but 65k or 100k If I'm still on here in 10 yrs what do you think these colloctor Cigerettes will be worth?I'd like to see the sales slip not to break balls 65k used 20' not from me!Peace out nice boats but overpriced in my opinion:kiss:

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I have never agreed on the pricing of the 20, but for those who want one, its their $$. I almost bought a 21 cig. with an outboard a few years back, but got my 24 Pantera instead, dont know where I am going with this, but if I had the $$ to burn, I might buy one, just because they are different.

Your logic doesnt make much sense. Everything in boating is overpriced, its the nature of the sport. The things that are not overpriced are things you have only mentally accepted as a fair price. Like BLee said, for the most part the people buying the 20's at those prices have the income for a niche boat like that. In ten years yes they may depreciate, but wont all boats? But the 20's may depreciate a little less or might even go up because to those who can afford them are still willing to pay that price or more to be one of a small exclusive group.

A Picasso just sold for $106.5M this week. Do you thing that is overpriced? You can go to a starving artist show & get paintings for $25. Why would anyone want to spend $100M for one? Will your $25 go up in 10 yrs? Doubt it. But i bet that rare Picasso could fetch more in 10 yrs. It's not for everyone, like the 20, but those that have the means can enjoy whatever their art is regardless of what others think its worth.

Not sure I'd put a Cig 20 in the class with a Picasso but the analolgy is right on...there are many "collectors" out there, artwork, coins, wine, cars, etc.

The Cig 20 is a limited build from perhaps the most recognizable name in the performance boating industry...and they are a blast to tool around in. I live on a lake and all I have to do is drop the lift and go...it is the PERFECT ride during the week when the weekenders are away.

BTW it's loud and everyone looks!

I agree. The Cig's have better lines than what Picasso scribbled on the canvas. :evilb:

I'm on board with that!

Oh I'm sure there are others that find them overpriced, but they aren't the people they are selling to.

I'm not sure why you'd imply anyone would lie about one recently selling for $65k? Both the owner & many others can easily confirm it. The boat was one of the ones Phil built a few years ago with brand new everything, and the current owner just wanted to move it.

That's just one of quite a few that have sold for WELL over the $50k mark, and like I said, the ones being built brand new, are comfortably over $100k. I don't think many would spend that if they were boat-less & shopping, but someone looking for maybe a 2nd, or definitely 3rd boat to play with on days they don't want to get their bigger boat out, are all over these.

The little Donzi's & Apache's have a cult following too, there are just a LOT of the Donzi's out there, & hardly any of the Apaches that have been fixed up. The Apaches also were outboards for the most part.

Did not know they still built the 20' new?I did know 100k for the last new one :drink: I seen a few with outboards but they are made for I/O just my 02!65k for a new 22' Donzi is also a high price but if I really wanted one I guess I'd pay it?:confused:I'm not the type to sit at the dock admiring my boat usage is important also resale they all will be losing value collector or not! Small boat get togethers almost had me buy the hustler with tow vehicle included for less then a new 20'?? I realized it was ego not common sence but I see your point kinda!Peace out&shop it out before paying those #'s you'll enjoy it much more!Take care drive safe!:kiss:

I have to agree, at the higher prices, the ones that come up are sold almost immediately, the 15-20 k ones are sitting longer because people know that they will have to put money into them. The redone ones are the shiznit. for a second fun boat.

Club what boat do u have Sweatness?:kiss::kiss:

Cabo&Donzi:cool: