Okay Cigarette experts let's hear what you think
 

Alright I thought I would have a little fun here. 2 friends of mine have new boats this year and we have been speculating top speeds (also some sh!t talking). Okay the first is a 1994 full cabin Top Gun with 600's Bravo boat and the second is a 1992 Bullet with 525 hawks and Bravos that are being redone as we speak. The Gun is all stock and the motors have about 50hrs. The Bullet as I said will have fresh power with a cam upgrade and is going to be running the smaller pulleys. So what top speeds can these guys expect.:evilb:

When you finally get the TOP GUN proped right, it should run between 73-78.

Top Gun - 77MPH with 26 4 Blades spinning 52-5300.

I think the Bullet will definitely keep up with him.

Wow I can't believe 130 views and only 2 replies. Let's here some opions on numbers.

Franks lets just hope they keep up with us :lolhit:
Gun around 75 trimmed out spinnin g around 5600 bravo 26
Bullet 72 24 bravos spinning 52-5300
-Mike

The Gun 76-77
The Bullet 74-75
Both spinning about 5200.....

74 on the Gun
72 on the Bullet
If its not on GPS running both directions it doesn't count. LOL!

Okay I know both these guys are watching this thread so thanks for the replies. Here is some more info. The Bullet is going to be running 28p 4 blades labbed from non other then BBlades and the Gun has 28p 4 blades on it now but he has never run the boat because he bought it over the winter. Keep the replies coming!:drink:

28's on the bullet? little big no?
-Mike

My old Bullet with 650 a side turned 28s against the limiters @
5500 rpm. Labbed 30s gave me 86mph {GPS} on a cool day.
so...Yes 28s may be to much.But, I'm sure brett can fix that

My Gun runs 76mph {GPS} with 650 a side with Vs

my gun with 600 hawks ran 73-74 with 25 4 blade hydro's so i'm gonna say the bullet should be around 70-71.

Another update the Bullets motors just got dynoed at 583hp. I was thinking both boats would be in the high 70's especially the Bullet thought maybe even 80.

I don't think that Gun is going to get into the high 70's with "only" 600HP each side, but I could definetly be wrong.

At 583 into the bullet - I think it will be a little faster and defnitely might get upper 70's.

Just my shot in the dark.....

How's your project coming Frank?

I think your numbers will be pretty close. The Bullett should run pretty strong espically after Brett's magic on the props, I still say that is the best money I have ever spent on my boat. My project is just about complete. I am waitting for the sun pad to be finished and then give it a good cleaning. I am not really happy with how the vents came out though. I may need to do something different there. I need to get the boat outside in the sun for some finished shots.

i think the gun will be close to 80mph the bullet not sure not familiar with it

The bullet thats been redone was it the one on craigslist this winter, just wondering?

My 89 bullet has run 86 with 575s xr lowers 29 3 blades at 5000 or 5200,I was to busy paying attention where I was going to get a exact rpm reading!

No, not on craigs list this winter. Bought it in Tennessee in October. Then freshened the engines. Now its all done. Had it out twice and seems to run really good. Working through a couple of ignition problems, but will be ready for a GPS run on Sunday !!!!!

That is flyin !!! I will be more than happy if the boat runs 80. High 70s will even be fine, just want to use the hell out of it and have a good time !!!:evilb:

I owned a 98 top gun with 600's in it

right seas (1 to 2s) and cool air the boat ran just a touch under 80

Got a preliminary GPS # on Saturday with the Bullet. On the CT river heading with current we did 78.6 MPH. Very happy with that # in flat water. Hoping for 80+ in 2 to 3 foot chop!!! :drink::drink:

You are such a liar!!! I was in the boat and verified the GPS reading and and read 78.7mph:drink:
Boat runs strong Kreed should be pretty happy, the boat comes up to speed pretty quick now we have to get him off the river and into the ocean and let that baby fly!!

Need a 1 B*tch the way my build is going............
-Mike

Mike, not sure what you are sayin ??

1st mate instead just swapped out b*tch for mate. wont see an engine for atleast 2 weeks and who knows on the other stroke job i ssay...
-Mike

on gps? or speedo?

lip ship T/S mystque with 575s saw 94-5

i having trouble thinking the lead sled could hit that with 575s

Well at least you still have your Hustler in the mean time! Not a bad back up !

Yea, 86 is screamin fast. Especially only at 5200 RPM, it had to be higher than 5200. That TS Mystique sounds cool though! Did the mystique handle as well as the Bullet?

Biggus might be able to answer that. Think the 575's in that Mystique have been bumped up a bit. I believe it is running 100+

The best that my 88 Bullet ever ran was 83.0 gps. That was turning 26 Bravo1's @ 5700. The engines were right about 600HP.

A friend had a '94 TG with 500efi's in it and it ran 73 on it's best day.

I just got my props labbed. I'm plannng on testing my 1994 Cigarette TOP GUN with twin 600hp engines using lab finished maximus props this next weekend. I hope I don't get too much stern lift. I'll keep ya'll posted.

Good luck. Be easy on the sticks. Those 5 blades provide alot of "bite". You might be better off (outdrive-wise) with some 4 blades. ;)

It's no fun when you start poppin' drives!! Are they at least XR's???

Good luck and keep us updated!

Okay the Top Gun that is in question here has some preliminary numbers (mind you they are not from the owner).
Full tanks of fuel flat water speed recorded by speedo.....................72mph:party-smiley-004:
Well what do you think this can do with a lighter load and some chop??? I am in for 77mph on GPS.

Well sometimes those speedos are off a bit, so Charlies Top Gun with 600s could actually be alittle faster than 72. I doubt its slower. But, a Top Gun is going to come alive in rougher water, especially with 1/2 tank of fuel and grandfather Charles driving !!!!! My guess is 78 MPH on its best day,right fuel, conditions, air temp, ect......... Hopefully we'll see this weekend!

Well, here is my result!

I tested my labbed 5 Blade Maximus props this weekend on my 1994 Top Gun with twin 600hp @ 5500rpm.
I'm not happy.
Before I had them labbed, I was getting 13% SLIP at 3300rpm, which was cruising around 50mph



WOT before labbed in Freshwater.
28 Pitch/4400rpm/Half Tank of GAS/water tank empty/2 People/68 mph on GPS
13% SLIP

WOT after Labbed in Freshwater.
25-26 Pitch/5500rpm/Full Tank of GAS/water tank full/3 People/68.8 mph
22%-24% SLIP

I hit my REV LIMITER.
The good news is that they are going to tweek my props for FREE.
I hope I can get my SLIP factor down to 13% and still hit 5500rpm. I would like to go 75 mph at the minimum.

Well I would be upset too. I think you would be better off with a set of 4 blades. Sometimes, with less prop slip, you will actually go slower. Prop slip sometimes=speed. You need to talk to Brett from Bblades...he will put you on the right track !!

Oh ,by the way, did finally get the Bullet out of the river and into the ocean. Did make a difference in speed. Although it was flat as a pancake out there, I was able to run with the current at at a top speed of 81.2 MPH at about 5300 RPM. Hoping for some chop this weekend, and alittle more speed !!!!! :evilb:

Kreed, what turned out to be your backfire problem on the dyno? Did you wind up sticking with the tbolt ignition?

Turned out to be a bad Thunderbolt 4 ignition module. Replaced it and not a problem since. I did stick with the Thunderbolt stuff cause I bought all new wires, coils,and pick ups in distribs. Works great now.