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Old 05-20-2010 | 10:08 AM
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I have questions on Cigarette Boats
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1. What do you guy's think the overall rough cost to:
1. Paint a 35' Cig Including cockpit and bildge
2. Re-do interior of entire boat
3. New dash and gauges
But what are the chances of finding one that has EFI and newer style drives?
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Find one that is re done already or pucrchase a newer one and enjoy it. I want to make the right decision in this purchase because I will have it for a long time to come. But then it raises yet another question regarding financing on a older Cig which may not happen. Or will they loan on the older ones most banks are only going back to 2002/2003 from what I have been told which hurts alot of people trying to sell. Thanks for any help that you guy's can provide trying to map out a direction and a path.
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Old 05-20-2010 | 10:30 AM
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I think it would be better to go with a newer one and enjoy it..
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Old 05-20-2010 | 10:46 AM
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$15-$20k Paint
$5-$8 Interior w/ sun pad
$1500 dash panels / $1500-$2000 Gauges

My opinion, unless you have the time and knowledge to do alot of work yourself and really want to do a project boat, find one that is already to your liking and upgrade the little stuff.

Projects can get out of hand in a hurry.
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Old 05-20-2010 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by sunsation96
I have questions on Cigarette Boats
Option 1
1. What do you guy's think the overall rough cost to:
1. Paint a 35' Cig Including cockpit and bildge
2. Re-do interior of entire boat
3. New dash and gauges
But what are the chances of finding one that has EFI and newer style drives?
Option 2
Find one that is re done already or pucrchase a newer one and enjoy it. I want to make the right decision in this purchase because I will have it for a long time to come. But then it raises yet another question regarding financing on a older Cig which may not happen. Or will they loan on the older ones most banks are only going back to 2002/2003 from what I have been told which hurts alot of people trying to sell. Thanks for any help that you guy's can provide trying to map out a direction and a path.
1 - I bet 15k to do it right on the low side. PM Frank 4195 he might could tell you since he is in the heat of it right now.
2 - 5k in new cabin and cockpit interior
3 - 5k in new dash and guages including throttles, heads up displays, etc.....

What newer style drives are you looking for? If you get one that is cut for Bravo's you can at least get the XR's if you think it is worth it without much work.

I think Financing could be HARD unless you put down a huge % and even then I think you are gonig to find it VERY hard.

I think it is a no-brainer to buy one that is already done. Over on SOS a few months ago a guy was asking about two boats, one of which was SKRAMER's and the other was in need of some attention. When you start adding up costs to re-do one correctly, and then you look at the cost to buy one like SKRAMER's that is already done correctly it becomes obvious. Little stuff like GPS units, AC, Pop-Up cleats, Swim Platform, etc... These things add up SO quickly you can't even fathom it.
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Old 05-20-2010 | 11:28 AM
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Thanks for the reply's don't know what direction to go right now I am in the just looking stages seeing what is out there for me. Another question how is insurance on the older Cig's hard to get? I just love the loook of the old school boats and the fact they turn the heads of many.
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Old 05-20-2010 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by sunsation96
I have questions on Cigarette Boats
Option 1
1. What do you guy's think the overall rough cost to:
1. Paint a 35' Cig Including cockpit and bildge
2. Re-do interior of entire boat
3. New dash and gauges
But what are the chances of finding one that has EFI and newer style drives?
Option 2
Find one that is re done already or pucrchase a newer one and enjoy it. I want to make the right decision in this purchase because I will have it for a long time to come. But then it raises yet another question regarding financing on a older Cig which may not happen. Or will they loan on the older ones most banks are only going back to 2002/2003 from what I have been told which hurts alot of people trying to sell. Thanks for any help that you guy's can provide trying to map out a direction and a path.
I think the numbers are way low. Just finished mine, Paint was around 40, cockpit and cabin were around 25, motors ??????? skys the limit. I know I went a bit extreme but it all still costs.
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Old 05-20-2010 | 01:41 PM
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Jmbtile,

Do you have some pics of your paint, cockpit & cabin, etc? That's some serious $ spent on renovations!
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Old 05-20-2010 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by sunsation96
Thanks for the reply's don't know what direction to go right now I am in the just looking stages seeing what is out there for me. Another question how is insurance on the older Cig's hard to get? I just love the loook of the old school boats and the fact they turn the heads of many.
Stacey at Wakezone insures mine. You might want to touch base with her and see what she says.

And jmbtile is probably right. Those numbers above are probably low. Buy the right boat out of the gate.
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Old 05-20-2010 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by sunsation96
Thanks for the reply's don't know what direction to go right now I am in the just looking stages seeing what is out there for me. Another question how is insurance on the older Cig's hard to get? I just love the loook of the old school boats and the fact they turn the heads of many.
Generally insurance isn't an issue until the boat turns 21. (maybe they figure its going to start drinking or something ) If you have insurance at that point, stick with them because moving to a new carrier might not happen without some big bucks.

Either way they will want a survey, as will you.

I was lucky, I bought and insured mine with at 20 years and 11 months.
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Old 05-20-2010 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by sunsation96
Thanks for the reply's don't know what direction to go right now I am in the just looking stages seeing what is out there for me. Another question how is insurance on the older Cig's hard to get? I just love the loook of the old school boats and the fact they turn the heads of many.
My advice would buy something newer or already redone. If you buy an older boat with the intention of redoing it a little at a time it will add up to big dollars. When I bought my boat I was very happy with it, but then I wanted to go faster and freshen up power, then update the apperance and finally paint. An older Cigarette is going to need some freshing up. Once you get started it is like a snowball rolling down a hill. Depending on your budget I would say to either stretch aliitle bit and buy something newer(rates are low too) or find a boat that someone has already redone and you can pick it up for 50 cents on the dollar. Here is a list of what I have in to my rig.

1. New motors (cables,exhaust,misc.etc) $40,000
2. New transom assemblies (old ones shot) $5,000
3. New Paint $ 20,000
4. New cock pit interior $5,000
5. new sun pad with Cig logo $2,000
6. External steering $3,500
7. New props $1,000
8. New gauges $2,000
9. New shifters and throttles $2,000
10. New powder coating $1,000
11.New rugs $1,000
12. New cleats and bow light $1,000
Thats over $80,000 including labor

Take your time and find the right boat! Good luck and let us know how things turn out.
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