Arneson's on 1994 Top Gun
 

I have the old style Bravo one's with the one inch prop shaft on my 1994 Top Gun. I have twin supercharged 605 hp engines. I am tired of cruising at 3000rpms all the time. I need to update my drives so I can have more fun. I am thinking of Arneson's within the next 1 or 2 seasons. I don't know anyone that has Arneson's on their flat bottom Top Gun, so it makes me a little uneasy. Anyone out there with this setup? If not, what other alternatives do I have. I will have about 850hp in the future.

I know one or more has been done with Arnesons. Expect to pick up about 10+ mph, a lot of reliability, and gain huge in the cool factor!

Talk with Kris Vogt. He has Arnesons on his flat deck. His aren't the bravo conversion units, but the principle is the same...

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/c...ml#post3339055

We have quite a few of these older Top Guns with Arnesons and there is no better alternative for the power you are going to have and the power you have currently.

The Cig's run exceptionally well with the Arnesons and you will be surprised how much better the boat handles and runs.

Wow, that is bad ass! Great installation.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/a...es-transom.jpg

Those Arneson's look like stainless steel. I thought they came in as brass or painted. Are those number 8 Arnesons?

I think those are 1600's.

Those are the older 1600 series arnesons on the flatdeck. SICK looking aren't they......:drink:

That is BAD AZZ!!!:drink:

That trailer needs a drive guard

Those are 1600's with the thrust tube chrome plated along with the cylinders.

Yes, preferably one that carry's a .45 on his hip and a mossberg on his shoulder. :drink:

what is the cost to go to this set up?

approx.?? 30k?

I thought I remembered reading somewhere that the list was 24k each for the Bravo Conversions - don't rely on my memory though....

Well the 1600's are no longer in production as they were superseded by the ASD8's, but for these applications the #7M Kits are the best choice.

The #7M Kits list for $23K each.

How much for the ASD8's with the drop box?

Which ran better the ASD7 bravo conversion or the ASD8 drop box rotated inward?

The conversion cant be angled in, the ASD8 with the drop box obviously can. The closer you get those props to the centerline, the better you're going to be. So the ASD8 would be the better choice for performance IMO.

they are bada$$ but alot of coin.
i guess if i was doing big power it would be the only way to go/

?? A stagger is a stagger and both can have the same propellershaft centerline so there is no difference in that respect.

The choice comes down to the amount of power the application has, nothing more nothing less.

And the new ASD8 drives are not angled either.

That is f'ing sick!

Rik,
If both are both side by side engine configurations and one can be angled in together towards the center and the other can't, you dont feel there's a performance advantage there???

BTW, I was not aware the new ASD8's couldn't be angled. Why the change?

First thanks for the comments.

The Arnesons do run well on the boat. It comes down to putting the right props on. With today's modern props the Arnesons are better choice than they were years ago.

Arneson drives take very little horsepower to drive and they don't break.

On the ASD8 vs ASD7 debate, I believe the ASD8s are much heavier and the installation is more complicated. Rik has done a great job of packaging the bravo conversion unit.

Service and support from Arneson and Twin Disk is far above what I normally see in the marine industry.

I am sure a lot of you have seen the Youtube video of the Yellow Cigarette Top Gun from Russia with Arnesons. It took about 20 seconds for them to get on plane. Is that a characteristic for the Arnesons or do those Russians don't know how to drive?:coolcowboy:

I have to put my drives down, but my boat pops right up with very little prop slip.

Kris Vogt

Any videoof yours running?

I believe they had just got the boat in the water and they should have bumped the rpm up just a bit more to get the cleavers to hook up and they would have been on their way.

They go the hang of it pretty fast as they were very happy with the results of the conversion.

Yes, on the older Arnesons one could mount the engines on a side by side configuration and have a stagger propeller shaft center line such as the way Kris did his boat.

Is this better? Is this worst? A little bit of both as most boats that are setup as a stagger are 100 mph + boats. A boat that runs in the 60-80 mph range will not gain anything from this and "might" actually suffer in certain areas such as docking and slow speed handling.

A boat with actually staggered engines has a lower center of gravity and there is no benefit of having the larger drop box on the boat then as there has to be space for the propellers and the centerline can only be so close before damage to the propellers occurs.

So if the boat is a stagger engine boat, the propellers will be on the same centerline distance for the Arneson #7, and #8 as they are for the Mercury drives.

I don't have any video. You gotta wait til this summer.

Kris

What power is in the boat and what speeds are you expecting?

Before I took it apart to re-do, I had 800s and it would do 90mph. After the re-do I'm looking to do 100mph. The boat is now lighter, has the bottom straightened, motors have different heads, and has bigger exhaust.

Kris Vogt

anyone know anything about this one?

Sweet!!

Wow.... Can't wait to here the performance results.

That is a 39' Top Gun over in Turkey and it is getting a new set of 800hp motors from Sterling..

i bet that thing runs like a bat outta hell..

That is just beautiful!:drink::drink::drink:

Kris, what's the centerline distance on your props?

Kris,
Bring that bad boy to the Kenosha WI Thunderun Poker Run July 16th with the NIOC. Have your brother bring his boat also. You have come a long way since I last saw the boat after you painted it. Really sharp. Bill Lawson from Ateco is also converting his 388 Scarab to Arneson drives. I can not wait to see your boat again.

just about 17.5 inches

I will definitely be at the NIOC poker run. Several of the Racine boats will be attending.

Drive up and get another tour.

Kris Vogt