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the bear 10-25-2011 09:51 AM

Gladiators Staggerd vs Side by Side
 
If two Glad's have the same power one is side by side the other staggerd what would be the biggest differences.

Speed? Handeling? Ride?

I immagine the cockpit has more room in the side by side.

Thanks.

the bear 10-25-2011 03:43 PM

Just curious what the major difference was what bennifits staggered my have over side by side or vice versa......looking for someone that has the experience with both, I can test drive each but wont get a true feel that a lot of seat time will tell me.

36Envision 10-25-2011 05:20 PM

Staggered - A bit Faster, smaller cockpit area, much better re-sale, possibly easier space to work on motors and will likely throw a rooster! Check up on OSO member RedBud's Glad. Nice, beautiful, well cared for boat. Listed with PBB at LOTO.

Side by Side - More cockpit space (not more than 1 foot), likely a bench seat, lesser of resale as demand isn't as high but you could possibly purchase at a lesser price point. A lot of side by side Glads are X race boats. However, not all and doesn't mean it isn't a nice boat. I don't believe you will find a side by side after 2003, but could be wrong.

pm203 10-25-2011 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by 36Envision (Post 3536474)
Staggered - A bit Faster, smaller cockpit area, much better re-sale, possibly easier space to work on motors and will likely throw a rooster! Check up on OSO member RedBud's Glad. Nice, beautiful, well cared for boat. Listed with PBB at LOTO.

I don't believe you will find a side by side after 2003, but could be wrong.

There was one. It is the 04 Zul boat.

POWERPLAY J 10-25-2011 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by pm203 (Post 3536495)
There was one. It is the 04 Zul boat.

Dinos brother?

bustedbrick 10-25-2011 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by 36Envision (Post 3536474)
A lot of side by side Glads are X race boats.

May be a stupid question....why is this the case? I would think the faster setup would be the ex-race boats? Rules against staggered setups?

Thanks, Randy

J-Bonz 10-25-2011 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bustedbrick (Post 3536592)
May be a stupid question....why is this the case? I would think the faster setup would be the ex-race boats? Rules against staggered setups?

Thanks, Randy

The side by sides were the first ones produced. I believe Tres had the first one on the race course, Team Virgin... They Parked the twin step 38 and entered mid season with the 36 I believe in Corpus Christie, Texas... During that race there was rain and fog... There was no boat that could touch it! I believe that year they went on to win the Worlds with 1st place Podium... I believe Fountain/Snap On came in second.... There was some controversy in them stopping to help out a race boat and crew that spun if my memory is correct... Never the less, one awesome year for the Cig fans!! Cant forget the dancing Hula Girl.... :)

http://www.tresmartinperformance.com...page=out&id=59

thisistank 10-25-2011 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by J-Bonz (Post 3536618)
The side by sides were the first ones produced. I believe Tres had the first one on the race course, Team Virgin... They Parked the twin step 38 and entered mid season with the 36 I believe in Corpus Christie, Texas... During that race there was rain and fog... There was no boat that could touch it! I believe that year they went on to win the Worlds with 1st place Podium... I believe Fountain/Snap On came in second.... There was some controversy in them stopping to help out a race boat and crew that spun if my memory is correct... Never the less, one awesome year for the Cig fans!! Cant forget the dancing Hula Girl.... :)

http://www.tresmartinperformance.com...page=out&id=59

Man, I miss F2 racing....Killing F2 is what killed racing IMHO.

36Envision 10-25-2011 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by pm203 (Post 3536495)
There was one. It is the 04 Zul boat.

It appears I was wrong! :lolhit:

pm203 10-26-2011 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by 36Envision (Post 3536682)
It appears I was wrong! :lolhit:

You were only off by 1 boat. :D

Tom A. 10-26-2011 09:36 AM

F-2 race specs required side by side engine mounting, that is why most of them are ex-race boats. Both Cigarette and Donzi pumped out a few race boats at the beginning of their sit down boat runs. Both the Gladiators and Zr race boats were lighter (less creature comforts) then the pleasure built staggered boats but the staggered set up makes up the speed difference.

Tiki Joe 10-26-2011 12:14 PM

There was a narrow cockpit option also which = less space, but looks cool. You're a big guy, I think you'd like the space of a standard cockpit.

bustedbrick 10-26-2011 01:33 PM

Ah, rules... Thank you!

the bear 10-26-2011 03:43 PM

.......Thanks for the responses. It sounds pretty much like more of preference than anything else. The staggard sounds a little faster, this gives me a little more info while looking.

pm203 10-26-2011 05:22 PM

For the best looking Glad combination, get a narrow cockpit staggered version. Also, a staggered boat should ride slightly better due to weight distribution.

36Envision 10-26-2011 05:23 PM

the bear - noticed you are from MO. I would call up Brett at Performance Boat Brokerage and take a look at the Gladiator he has listed for sale. It is a Staggered setup, 525 EFI's. Very nice, clean boat, if anything, look at the setup, see if you like it. If not, discuss with PBB if they have any side by side owners wanting to sell. Good luck.

Sick Stinger 10-26-2011 07:52 PM

Is it worth jumping up 1 foot from the Cafe? I know they are 2 differant boats steps lighter weight site down and so on but will the ride be just as nice but faster?
-Mike

baywatch 10-26-2011 08:55 PM

Never been in a side by side Gladiator but have spent some time in Alex's and his is definately a lot of bang for the buck. http://www.performanceboatbrokerage....sp?boat_id=402
For me, a stagger would be a must if I was buying a Gladiator.

baywatch 10-26-2011 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by Sick Stinger (Post 3537500)
Is it worth jumping up 1 foot from the Cafe? I know they are 2 differant boats steps lighter weight site down and so on but will the ride be just as nice but faster?
-Mike

Your cafe is very similar to my 36' Apache and I would say that they are entirely different animals. The Gladiator is like sporty roadster that is quick, nimble, and light on its feet while the cafe is more like an old school muscle car/GTO.

pm203 10-26-2011 09:34 PM

The Gladiator will ride a lot nicer than a Cafe being the fact that is a twin step.

J-Bonz 10-26-2011 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by pm203 (Post 3537393)
For the best looking Glad combination, get a narrow cockpit staggered version. Also, a staggered boat should ride slightly better due to weight distribution.

Forgot about the two different cockpit set up.... :)

Tiki Joe 10-27-2011 09:22 AM

I like John's old boat with the 750 Zul's....and it's price right!

the bear 10-27-2011 11:48 AM

Its very nice....I like the Zuls also!

Shallow Minded 10-27-2011 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by Tiki Joe (Post 3537734)
I like John's old boat with the 750 Zul's....and it's price right!

Make it happen, Pon-tuner! :party-smiley-004:

Tiki Joe 10-27-2011 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by Shallow Minded (Post 3537845)
Make it happen, Pon-tuner! :party-smiley-004:

I'm trying to spend Bear's money....not mine:angry-smiley-038:

314joey 10-27-2011 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by the bear (Post 3537829)
Its very nice....I like the Zuls also!

Keeping a eye on you Bear, gonna spend some money, huh, looking at some nice stuff, good luck.

PARADISE ISLAND 10-27-2011 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by the bear (Post 3537829)
Its very nice....I like the Zuls also!

Richie is a great engine builder!:party-smiley-004:

the bear 10-27-2011 02:11 PM

I am going to try too spend some, just has to be the right deal....:eek:

eddie 10-27-2011 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by the bear (Post 3537921)
I am going to try too spend some, just has to be the right deal....:eek:

I'd go with staggered factory Merc power myself.


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