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n20michael 11-16-2011 03:04 PM

Cigarette Vice?
 
I have been considering stepping up to a smaller twin screw boat for awhile now, I was thumbing through an older "Powerboat" magazine that had a write up of a 50ft "marauder" with trip 850's, NICE!!!

Ahem, back to reality, the magazine also tested a 30ft Vice, which looked to me to be similiar to the "Mystique". Has anyone on here ever owned a Vice? I dont think I have ever even SEEN one! It looked to me like a killer boat, the one that was in the mag had 525EFI's in it and looked really nice.

ANY info/input would be greatly appreciated

Michael

CigaretteSam 11-16-2011 05:37 PM

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2006.../Athens/Greece


Here are some pictures in this link...
The Vice and the Mystique are the same boat, but the Vice is just a new name. They both aren't made anymore though.
Here are some more pictures of a Vice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbIyj9Xmqak

Aside from the vice, this is the only other 30' I could find for sale.

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2001.../United-States

If you dont mind going a little bit bigger there is the 31' Bullet also..

Sam

tcwcar 11-16-2011 05:46 PM

Call Phil at Lipship, he told me about one in Fla. that the guy would sell for 150k

POWERPLAY J 11-16-2011 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by tcwcar (Post 3551316)
Call Phil at Lipship, he told me about one in Fla. that the guy would sell for 150k

For that price it would be foolish to not go to a ts Gun or ts 35.

bobo1 11-16-2011 06:23 PM

That blue 30 vice is one sexy ass boat! Is it a Lip-ship?

n20michael 11-16-2011 06:25 PM

[QUOTE=POWERPLAY J;3551329]For that price it would be foolish to not go to a ts Gun or ts 35.[/QUYOTE


I agree, I realize a 30ft Cig is gonna be a good chunk more than the 29-36 Bajas I have looked at, but, 150K buys a pretty nice boat in this economy.

Thanks for the links/pics and please keep them coming. I havent been able to find much online.


THANKS!
Michael

n20michael 11-16-2011 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by bobo1 (Post 3551348)
That blue 30 vice is one sexy ass boat! Is it a Lip-ship?

The one I saw is in "Family And Performance Boating" the Aug. 2006 issue.

It has an orange/yellow hull with green stripes, it sounds gross, but, it looks killer!

seafordguy 11-16-2011 07:58 PM

Personally - I am of the opinion that when you upgrade boats you should go more than 5 feet.

I know that isn't good commentary on the Vice, but there are so many good deals right now on Cafe's and Gun's that I would try to swing the extra cash for the extra length. Just my .02.

jbraun2828 11-16-2011 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by POWERPLAY J (Post 3551329)
For that price it would be foolish to not go to a ts Gun or ts 35.

And thats why they don't make them anymore.

n20michael 11-16-2011 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by seafordguy (Post 3551444)
Personally - I am of the opinion that when you upgrade boats you should go more than 5 feet.

I know that isn't good commentary on the Vice, but there are so many good deals right now on Cafe's and Gun's that I would try to swing the extra cash for the extra length. Just my .02.

Agreed, thats why I am looking at something around 30ft, however, I am a 2nd generation boater, so, I spent quite a few years piloting/docking there cruisers, including two 36ft Sundancers. I realize its an Apples to Oranges comparing the two, but, I do have some experience in bigger boats. I LOVE the Top Guns and Gladiators, but they are a little bigger than I would like for my "next" boat.

dreamer 11-16-2011 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by POWERPLAY J (Post 3551329)
For that price it would be foolish to not go to a ts Gun or ts 35.

Or a 35??

There's a 35 playboy asking 89k in classifieds

Comanche3Six 11-16-2011 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by bobo1 (Post 3551348)
That blue 30 vice is one sexy ass boat!

Agreed 100%

Biggus 11-17-2011 10:08 AM

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I recently 'upgraded' :drink: from my old Top Gun to a 30' Mystique T/S with no regrets at all.

I really did not know how much of a benefit the smaller boat would be until I owned it for a few weeks. The main benefit is the 30 footer has got to be 80% better on fuel than the old straight bottom 'Gun. It literally sips fuel compared to the 4000 lb heavier TG. It's a LOT faster:drink: and since it's smaller, my ramp options are much better where I live. No regrets at all.

WMF 11-17-2011 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by Biggus (Post 3551791)
I recently 'upgraded' :drink: from my old Top Gun to a 30' Mystique T/S with no regrets at all.

I really did not know how much of a benefit the smaller boat would be until I owned it for a few weeks. The main benefit is the 30 footer has got to be 80% better on fuel than the old straight bottom 'Gun. It literally sips fuel compared to the 4000 lb heavier TG. It's a LOT faster:drink: and since it's smaller, my ramp options are much better where I live. No regrets at all.

I always loved that Mystique, great boat, good luck with her!!

BLee 11-17-2011 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by Biggus (Post 3551791)
I recently 'upgraded' :drink: from my old Top Gun to a 30' Mystique T/S with no regrets at all.


I personally think yours is the all around best one out there too. I'm glad someone like you ended up with it! :cool:

Biggus 11-17-2011 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by BLee (Post 3551814)
I personally think yours is the all around best one out there too. I'm glad someone like you ended up with it! :cool:

Thanks Brandon! The smaller boat just fits better with the boating we have been doing in recent years and it's so much less expensive to own. Not missing the bigger boat at all.

Kurt:drink:

TexomaPowerboater 11-17-2011 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by Biggus (Post 3551791)
I recently 'upgraded' :drink: from my old Top Gun to a 30' Mystique T/S with no regrets at all.

I really did not know how much of a benefit the smaller boat would be until I owned it for a few weeks. The main benefit is the 30 footer has got to be 80% better on fuel than the old straight bottom 'Gun. It literally sips fuel compared to the 4000 lb heavier TG. It's a LOT faster:drink: and since it's smaller, my ramp options are much better where I live. No regrets at all.

+1, lots of good reasons to go smaller. Easier to tow, less gas, easier on drives, doesn't take a lot of power. IMO the smaller the boat is the more you take it out. And unless your running offshore or the great lakes there is no reason to run a 30ft+ go-fast. My 28 can handle anything our lake can throw at it. These mystiques/vices do a great job of filling a void that is much needed. Personally, though, for that kind of money I'd buy a brand new 33 active thunder with twin 300 OB's and generator running AC in the cabin, but each to their own. I'd be happy to own either boat.

n20michael 11-17-2011 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by Biggus (Post 3551791)
I recently 'upgraded' :drink: from my old Top Gun to a 30' Mystique T/S with no regrets at all.

I really did not know how much of a benefit the smaller boat would be until I owned it for a few weeks. The main benefit is the 30 footer has got to be 80% better on fuel than the old straight bottom 'Gun. It literally sips fuel compared to the 4000 lb heavier TG. It's a LOT faster:drink: and since it's smaller, my ramp options are much better where I live. No regrets at all.

NICE boat!! What do you have for power, would love to see a few more pics!


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