So what is this boat really worth in this market?
 

It's been relisted a few times on ebay and hasn't sold. I've fallen in love with it and would love to bring it up north to Cumberland. Thought I'd ask the Cig experts their opinion......

Feel free to give me some more info or details that I can't find from the seller...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1995-...item3f10abbcf3

In a better market probably worth every bit of the asking price. Boat and trailer looks to be immaculate and sets the bar pretty high for a 'clean' boat.

Hard to say at what price the owner would let it go for, make him an offer, all he can do is say no :D

NOT 99k.....boat seems to be really clean but I with what's out there now i would say mid 70. You can get a Topgun for what they're asking for this boat....this is MO.....good luck

Thanks, that's kind of what I was thinking/speculating. Trust me, I'm not willing to pay asking price for this one or it'd already be on the way to my warehouse. I just hate tire-kickers so I refuse to do that myself especially when I won't pay that price, hence this thread.

Thanks again.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o42966-en.html

This is what $98k could get you, and this hasn't even sold yet.

wow... lots of cash for that year, but on the other hand, this is like a brand new turn key boat !

I've seen that Cafe several times, it is spectacular, impeccably maintained by OSO member Zero Patience, to a level rarely seen.

It's as close to a brand new Cafe Racer one could hope to find. It won't be had cheap but sometimes you've got to pony up the bucks for an exceptional piece.

Kurt

For comparison: Last year a buddy sold a 1994 Top Gun. 2004 Lip Ship complete re-do (paint, interior, 500EFI's) in 2008 it got new XR's, Myco trailer, etc. The boat was mint and perfect in every way, fresh water, stored indoors. We were all shocked he got $99K for it......and I think he was too.

U can get a 38zr stagger 525s for 100k

That boat is sweet! I saw it just came back up for sale again.... I would consider if I wasn't knee deep in the old bucket.

Full cabin???

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o42989-en.html

Plus there is a 35 playboy asking 89

Why would anyone want a straight bottom cafe

65k tops

Ok lots of upgrades but no more than 70

Not a dime more...

This Cafe' is nicer than mine was but I let mine go for less than half of their asking price. I would say if he wants to sell it, 60-70K and good luck finding financing so better have a cash buyer.

Boy for half the price I sure could fall in love w your cafe.

And the guy that has it now has been just letting it sit in the water at the marina.
Very sad.

That makes me sick.....

Kramer had his for sale 2 years ago for 65K

I didn't know that and wish I still didn't. That makes me sad :(

I really hoped the guy would take as good of care of her as I did. He told me he was going to trailer it every week until he bought a lift for it. I guess not...... :angry-smiley-038:

I think this boat is really worth mid 70's but selling it for that much or the owner coming down that far are two very different subjects. I know $75k can buy you more boat by time you made it look like this boat you will spend another $15k. For the right person I think it is a great boat unfortunately many will opt for a TopGun in lessor shape for the same money.

Yeah, but then you'd have to spend $10k or more for new paint. Don't get me wrong, great power and drives but the paint just ruins it IMHO.

Thanks for all the advice!

I've seen this boat in person in KW a couple times...The photo's are right on par with how clean it is!

I hate these types of threads though (no offense). I mean, the old saying rings very true: "it's worth what someone will pay for it"...You hear this saying all the time but the translation to me could be simplified to "ones man junk is another mans gold" (not saying this boat is junk by any means)....But someone might be willing to pay the higher than market asking price because it is perfectly mechanically sound, above par cafe that will provide years of trouble free boating (assuming)....Maybe someone's ideal boat has to have a full cabin, not a cover girl....Maybe someone really likes attention to detail and all the little nick nacks that make this thing so sweet.

So, in the end....It's worth what it's worth to someone that really wants it. ;)

Tank + 1 bud. Not downing the boat one bit but its a stright bottom for TS pricing. Believe me id love to have it I always check it out when i look through the classi's. My boat is a straight bottom and not worth a ton but i lay the ditch i dug but im content. But the hardware in this boat is where its at.
-Mike

Oh, I know and I agree. That's why I said (and was sincere)no offense. I guess my point is that there's two sides to it and different variables. Look how T/S's (and straight bottoms) are all over the market - many factors affect that (drives/power/hours/condition/etc.). I don't know the owner of this boat, don't have a Cafe (or any other boat) for sale and don't have a poney in this race but truly think "what's it worth" is a very vague question. May just be worth the asking price to someone that really likes it. Take Apaches for example. 30 Y/O technology that is demanding prices more than T/S prices?? But they sell.

So again, it'll sell at the price or it will sit. In the end, I'm just playing devils advocate and making conversation of the flip side to the question posed.

Quite simply it is worth what the owner and buyer agree on, you can sit and compare it to everything you want and if the owner doesn't want to sell it, it wont happen... Keep in mind, just like the car business "there is an ass for every seat"... while the bottom feeders on this board that continually knock prices down, there is the guy that is quietly saving or working his bank to make it happen as he sees the value in the boat.

There are botom feeders on this board? :D

Man this Cafe is nicest i've seen. Has done a lot of updates to make it look more modern.

Did Cigarette change the dash or is it custom? i like how the gauge panel goes all the way over to the edge.

Exactly!!!!!!

It's sad what has happened to the boat prices...but there's not much that we can do about it right now except enjoy our boats!!! :D

I think that I may have been able to get between 115-120K for my boat 4 years ago. Today..... I'd be thrilled to get 90K for it.

Sounds like a curse word?

I was called a "Low baller" not to long ago. Bothered me so much I slept only seven hours that night instead of eight...

Try not to take it too seriously. I do not set out to offend people with stuff for sale.

I sold one four years ago. Got beat up on the price alittle but the cold reality was that its not going to be worth more the next year. Point being, if someone is serious about selling a toy, it'll be priced to move not just boost an ego.

That said, I'm looking again- such a fool...

I'm sorry if I offended anyone- Bryan

Either that, or pick up some of these deals!

The boat is truly excellent, not the typical MINT piece you travel a thousand miles to see and are let down by. The dash was built by myself and the owner. It glows in the sun. The gps is where it should be, not bass boat bolted to the dash top. The engine bay is full of bling, the wipples are ausome. Big stereo. Updates have been continous for the last 7 years. The boat is very, very nice.

:whistle:

The boat sold and brought all the money. Congradulations to the new owner..

Good for him. I guess all the experts were wrong again. Congrats to the new owner, looks like a beautiful boat.

Selling the Cafe was a real learning experience for me. Like the original poster in this thread, I wondered, in this economy, what's it really worth? Fortunately for me, I had some invaluable support from my Cigarette brothers. To a man they all said,"you're selling chicken salad not chicken sh!t, stick to your price. If you can get someone to see the boat in person, they will see the value".
During the two and a half months it was listed, the people that inquired fell into two categories (three if you count the scam artist that went so far as to send a fake check). The first group, like some of the posters on this thread, wanted to be sure I understood how bad the market is, how financing is impossible, that no one wanted an old "straight bottom" and wanted to tell me about a "similar" boat that sold for half my price. The second group was made up of those that actually looked at the boat. The most frequent comment I heard from these folks was "this boat is REALLY IN GREAT SHAPE, you should see some of the junk people are advertising as "mint"!
Today, the new owner took delivery of the boat. He had good credit and had no problems obtaining financing. He wanted a solid, comfortable, Cigarette quality ride and was willing to pay a fair price. He got a great boat.

Excellent post.

Now we will see what MRP 357 starts on next:party-smiley-004:

Excellent post.....

I thought the price was ok... That boat had some NICE supercharged efi engines in it! EFI being the key word!

What was top speed anyways? 90mph

A 95' Cafe brought 99K ?? someones hitting the :bong:

But it was really nice! :drink: