Why would you add tongue weight? Isn't this the downward force applied to the hitch at rest?

I always thought tongue weight a percentage of total weight (trailer + boat)? At 10%, Tongue weight = 1,573#.

The actual weight only comes into play when you go through a weigh station. The highway patrol is concerned with gross weight rating. The truck probably has a gvwr of around 12,000, the trailer if it has 8 lug axles is 16,000 lbs so that puts you at 28,000 lbs even if the trailer is empty

My bad, there's so much crap to take into consideration when towing, and making sure you don't exceed this weight limit or that weight limit. I meant to include the tongue weight on the GVWR, since it is a down force, not to the ball mount weight.

As far as the scales go, the CHP trucks, the commercial enforcement, have portable ones that the carry. They look kind of like small inner tubes and they make you drive the truck and trailer on to them.

I pull a 99 TG with my Eco Boosted V6 F150, pulls it great, no sag no nothing. I think some of the options that have been thrown are out are a big overkill.

I would like to start looking for a truck. I like those Freightliners, and was also thinking of an F650. We could use it here at work too, so a bigger capacity truck would make sense for my needs. Sure it's overkill to pull a boat with, but at least you have the extra capability if needed.

I looked on the horse trailer website, but there wasn't much in my price range. Does anyone have another good source for these trucks? I already checked on TruckTrader.

Also, what is the width of those trucks? Would it fit through a 9' door?

Here is where I got my truck from:

http://www.haulers.biz/

Texas is where most of them seem to be available...

This is from the Federal CDL standards based on no air brakes:

One of the most misunderstood parts of the above requirements has to do with trailers with a GVWR in excess of 10,000 pounds when the combined GVWR does not exceed 26,000 pounds. In this case a CDL is NOT required provided you are not placarded for hazardous materials. However individual states may impose a requirement that drivers in their states must have a CDL in this situation so you need to check the requirements in your state. It is also important to note that individual state CDL licensing requirements CAN NOT be applied to drivers from other states.

Basically:

Under 26,000lbs Combined GVW +
No air brakes +
GVW of each trailer and tow vehicles not exceeded +
Private Carrier (Not For Hire) =
Equals no CDL based on federal standards.

Some states may have different rules and the overall length and wide loads change the rules as well.

I'm not saying we all need 650s but an f150 is just plain ignorant.

That is asking for trouble in an accident.

I think he was making a joke, these are always touchy threads, good for Popcorn

Cool, thanks for the link, but everything on that site is listed as Sold. I don't understand why people run websites that way, everything for sale shows SOLD! It's like they don't have any inventory, and they are showing you how much stuff they sell