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topgun38rat 06-11-2012 10:49 PM

Better Boat Cigarette 39 Unlimited or Outerlimits 40 gtx
 
Would Like to know from experience Owners Which boat is better, 2005 cigarette 39 with 525s (550 HP)or same year outerlimits 40 gtx with 700 HP ..,,,Pros,Cons,Performance,rough seas capability ,top speed,Quality and finish

cdowns 06-12-2012 09:44 AM

:popcorn:

Apples and oranges.....

customryder 06-12-2012 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by topgun38rat (Post 3707411)
Would Like to know from experience Owners Which boat is better, 2005 cigarette 39 with 525s (550 HP)or same year outerlimits 40 gtx with 700 HP ..,,,Pros,Cons,Performance,rough seas capability ,top speed,Quality and finish

go look at both ...the choice will be easy.

Von Bongo 06-12-2012 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by cdowns (Post 3707656)
:popcorn:

Apples and oranges.....

+1

pm203 06-12-2012 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by cdowns (Post 3707656)
:popcorn:

Apples and oranges.....

That's very diplomatic of you.

39 Unlimited 06-12-2012 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by pm203 (Post 3707851)
That's very diplomatic of you.

I looked hard at both....:evilb:

pm203 06-12-2012 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by 39 Unlimited (Post 3707906)
I looked hard at both....:evilb:

I am sure you did. :D

FstBoats 06-12-2012 10:53 PM


Originally Posted by topgun38rat (Post 3707411)
Would Like to know from experience Owners Which boat is better, 2005 cigarette 39 with 525s (550 HP)or same year outerlimits 40 gtx with 700 HP ..,,,Pros,Cons,Performance,rough seas capability ,top speed,Quality and finish

You Tired of the 38 Spyder Already?

boating37 06-17-2012 12:22 AM


Originally Posted by customryder (Post 3707715)
go look at both ...the choice will be easy.

Very true! I looked at the GTX and Nor-Tech!

joeyoffshore 06-17-2012 09:42 AM

Dude please...... Cig all the way!!! Wake up...:lolhit:

btw: Happy Father's Day!

cfischer 06-17-2012 03:39 PM

so stupid when people get on here and ask such dumb questions. at least compare boats with the same engine package and why come into the Cig forum and ask that question?

topgun38rat 06-18-2012 02:51 PM

No We Did not,this boat would be for a client ,We are very happy with the spyder :daz:

topgun38rat 06-18-2012 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by cfischer (Post 3711145)
so stupid when people get on here and ask such dumb questions. at least compare boats with the same engine package and why come into the Cig forum and ask that question?

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Sometimes people think they know everything ..,,,But everything has an angle.,,, I ask this not for me but for a client that wanted more than my opinion and those 2 boats are the ones that he is interested on ..,, Maybe one has more power but is less of a boat when it comes to handleling and finish


1) so stupid when people get on here and ask such dumb questions, " Maybe Stupid for you but educational to people that are not as smart as you"

2) why come into the Cig forum and ask that question? "Because Im a member and i own a cigarette and I needed my client to get other views on the subject .,,,,, Who are you Cigarette Hitler

topgun38rat 06-18-2012 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by 39 Unlimited (Post 3707906)
I looked hard at both....:evilb:


Re: I would be very interested in your findings

topgun38rat 06-18-2012 04:06 PM

Not Yet ,..Having too much fun with it Here is video of the last run


[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tHyEDWj7vA[/YOUTUBE]

Originally Posted by FstBoats (Post 3708308)
You Tired of the 38 Spyder Already?


THE 288 KID 06-18-2012 05:45 PM

Cigarette Hitler! Lmfao

39 Unlimited 06-18-2012 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by topgun38rat (Post 3711917)
Re: I would be very interested in your findings

Well we ended up ordering a 2011 39 Top Gun Unlimited. After owning seven boats (five Nordic’s, great boats BTW) wanted to step to the next level of performance boating. I took two years to research quality, performance, style and resale value. I will say this; sustainability was also a major factor, a lot of named manufacturers stopped production or went out of business over the last four years. After visiting the factory and working with Cigarette I was convinced they were financially stable and the brand was positioned for growth. In the end, love the boat and was very impressed with the entire build experience.

Hope this answers your question.

Gary

OldSchool 06-18-2012 08:37 PM

One runs like it's on rails and the other runs like it's on marbles. Your choice, but do yourself a favor and have your client run them both. You never know what you'll like until it's done. Like they said in "Days of Thunder"..... Loose is fast!!! :D

cfischer 06-19-2012 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by topgun38rat (Post 3711914)
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Sometimes people think they know everything ..,,,But everything has an angle.,,, I ask this not for me but for a client that wanted more than my opinion and those 2 boats are the ones that he is interested on ..,, Maybe one has more power but is less of a boat when it comes to handleling and finish


1) so stupid when people get on here and ask such dumb questions, " Maybe Stupid for you but educational to people that are not as smart as you"

2) why come into the Cig forum and ask that question? "Because Im a member and i own a cigarette and I needed my client to get other views on the subject .,,,,, Who are you Cigarette Hitler

member?? says you're registered under your name and yes it is a dumb question to come into the Cig forum and ask a bunch of guys who in this forum own a cig if a outerlimits is a better boat. being that you're a cig owner and you have so much experience and so much knowledge that one would know that comparing a boat that goes 85 tops to one that goes over 100 in my view is a dumb question. asking about a cig with 700's compared to a outerlimits with 700's might be a better comparison. if you need a bunch of guys on here to tell you there is no comparison for educational purposes then u need to take at look at yourself in the mirror and stop being a dipchit. Never said i was smarter then anyone but if your client needs education on the 2 boats then have him talk to a guy who knows what he's talking about. as for you thinking i'm a cigarette hitler, seeing that i've owned a couple and they still are one of my favorite boats, i'd take one over a outerlimits any day. ol are badass but 2 totally different boats but you seem to know that already but funny your client needs confirmation from guys in the Cig forum! u must be a good salesman!!

cfischer 06-19-2012 03:00 PM

Didn't they hit 115mph in the new 40 gtx with 610 Imores?? So with 700's that boat might do 120mph??

Plowtownmissile 06-19-2012 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by topgun38rat (Post 3711945)
Not Yet ,..Having too much fun with it Here is video of the last run


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tHyEDWj7vA

Sorry to change the subject but did you buy the Spyder from a family in IL? My neighbor had a nearly identical Spyder til he passed away and his sons are trying to sell it for a "less than reasonable" amount.

redbud35 06-19-2012 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 3712171)
One runs like it's on rails and the other runs like it's on marbles. Your choice, but do yourself a favor and have your client run them both. You never know what you'll like until it's done. Like they said in "Days of Thunder"..... Loose is fast!!! :D

Have you actually been in an Outerlimits?

39 Unlimited 06-19-2012 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by cfischer (Post 3712776)
member?? says you're registered under your name and yes it is a dumb question to come into the Cig forum and ask a bunch of guys who in this forum own a cig if a outerlimits is a better boat. being that you're a cig owner and you have so much experience and so much knowledge that one would know that comparing a boat that goes 85 tops to one that goes over 100 in my view is a dumb question. asking about a cig with 700's compared to a outerlimits with 700's might be a better comparison. if you need a bunch of guys on here to tell you there is no comparison for educational purposes then u need to take at look at yourself in the mirror and stop being a dipchit. Never said i was smarter then anyone but if your client needs education on the 2 boats then have him talk to a guy who knows what he's talking about. as for you thinking i'm a cigarette hitler, seeing that i've owned a couple and they still are one of my favorite boats, i'd take one over a outerlimits any day. ol are badass but 2 totally different boats but you seem to know that already but funny your client needs confirmation from guys in the Cig forum! u must be a good salesman!!

Felt the same way when I initially read this thread, however, after thinking further thought not a bad place to ask the question. Reason; my guess is most people on this forum that have purchased a Cigarette over the last ten years has most likely considered buying an OL, I know I did. This said, why not leverage the knowledge.

If extreme top speed was my objective I would have gone with the OL. Good friend has a 47 GTX with 1200 Teague power boat runs 124 MPH and looks great. The 39 Cig w/700’s runs low 100’s and is smooth as glass but will never be the first boat to the card stops.

BTW - post #2 is bang on!

customryder 06-19-2012 07:43 PM

one thing you may want to take into account is a 39 gtx (or) 40 as you call it will have horrible resale... you better hope you like it, chances are you will own it for ever.. i have been in the boat your talking about... ride in it first, its fast but a scary ride.. then ride in the cigarette... on the down side with the cig with 525s its under powered and would probably be pretty boring.

pm203 06-19-2012 09:31 PM

The common misconception is that Ol is in the same league as Cigarette. It is not. Few boat manufacturers are. Do they build a good boat? I think so, but like any other boat manufacturer, they have their negatives as well. I have ridden in more than a few Ol's , from a 37,39,42 to a newer 52 SV. There were some things I loved and some things that I found unacceptable. But, that's me. Your client might like the 39 Ol GTX for its cool looks or its speed.
However, in this case,dealing with 2005 era boats, I personally like the Cigarette better for its build quality, usability and easier resale when it is time to say bye-bye.




P. S. To my knowledge, there was only 1 40 GTX built. It has Ilmors and is very nice.

302Sport 06-19-2012 09:39 PM

It really is comparing apples to oranges, a gtx should be compared to a gladiator or Maximus. 39 unlimited vs 39 Quattro is the right comp...

OldSchool 06-20-2012 04:55 AM


Originally Posted by redbud35 (Post 3712968)
Have you actually been in an Outerlimits?

Yes Sir

Not saying anything negative about OL.... Just that it's a "different" feeling while running than a Cig. Different strokes for different folks!! :)

AJ POWERPLAY 06-20-2012 05:28 AM

Why not throw in a 43 Sunsation to the mix...:party-smiley-004:

pm203 06-20-2012 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by ajfisher (Post 3713310)
Why not throw in a 43 Sunsation to the mix...:party-smiley-004:

Because we are talking about real boats. :D

OldSchool 06-20-2012 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by pm203 (Post 3713328)
Because we are talking about real boats. :D

Great answer!!! :D

FstBoats 06-20-2012 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by topgun38rat (Post 3711945)
Not Yet ,..Having too much fun with it Here is video of the last run


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tHyEDWj7vA

Nice Video!

Look's Great!

302Sport 06-20-2012 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by pm203 (Post 3713165)
P. S. To my knowledge, there was only 1 40 GTX built. It has Ilmors and is very nice.

Yup, and I was sitting in it last weekend....

AJ POWERPLAY 06-20-2012 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by ajfisher (Post 3713310)
Why not throw in a 43 Sunsation to the mix...:party-smiley-004:

LOL! i like this forum! that was sarcastic anyway... anyone that cuts up a 38 PowerPlay must be huffing paint

pm203 06-20-2012 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by 302Sport (Post 3713553)
Yup, and I was sitting in it last weekend....

That boat is very nice. I do not know why they only built one.

39 Unlimited 06-20-2012 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by ajfisher (Post 3713310)
Why not throw in a 43 Sunsation to the mix...:party-smiley-004:

Seriously?

redbud35 06-20-2012 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 3713301)
Yes Sir

Not saying anything negative about OL.... Just that it's a "different" feeling while running than a Cig. Different strokes for different folks!! :)

Just aggravating you Craig! :evilb:

AJ POWERPLAY 06-20-2012 05:15 PM

this thread brings this video to mind...:daz:
http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7743...-1-on-the-side:evilb:


Originally Posted by 39 Unlimited (Post 3713660)
Seriously?

it was a joke... hence the couch... i have a little fun poking at the sunny guys, they get way to serious on here


Originally Posted by topgun38rat (Post 3711945)
Not Yet ,..Having too much fun with it Here is video of the last run


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tHyEDWj7vA

great vid... beautiful boats!

cfischer 06-20-2012 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by ajfisher (Post 3713310)
Why not throw in a 43 Sunsation to the mix...:party-smiley-004:

haha!! i remember one of the owners of Sunsation telling me and my buddies that the 43' is bringing a whole new meaning to the offshore industry!!

pm203 06-20-2012 09:07 PM


Originally Posted by cfischer (Post 3713974)
haha!! i remember one of the owners of Sunsation telling me and my buddies that the 43' is bringing a whole new meaning to the offshore industry!!

So are the high-speed pontoons.

AJ POWERPLAY 06-21-2012 01:16 AM


Originally Posted by pm203 (Post 3714079)
So are the high-speed pontoons.

LOL, hey the one on the chain of lakes has enough to make a lot of twin 525 boats nervous!:whistle:


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