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Holy Smokes 07-28-2012 10:22 PM


Originally Posted by yss (Post 3740810)
OL's suck. They ride in the water like they're pushing nose down thru the water. Cigs have better lines, carry the bow much better and CRUSH way bigger waves. If I had $9,000,000.00 I'd buy a cig before I bought an OL. There's ONLY ONE #1....

Ah, Bryan you're giving me seller's remorse!

The perfect size and rarity of the 33's is hard to beat. What you're doing to that boat is going to be nothing short of awesome!

36Envision 07-29-2012 12:42 AM

Many of the same reasons mentioned already. My wife's response when I asked her this question tonight.... "Cigarette powerboats are just sexy, who doesn't want sexy?" I think that sums it up!:evilb:

DucBoy 07-29-2012 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by yss (Post 3740810)
OL's suck. They ride in the water like they're pushing nose down thru the water. Cigs have better lines, carry the bow much better and CRUSH way bigger waves. If I had $9,000,000.00 I'd buy a cig before I bought an OL. There's ONLY ONE #1....

Funny, just the kind of comment HD types make about more modern, better engineered bikes. I have nothing bad to say about Cigs, loved the one I had, and admire their lines and the brand - it's just too bad that the entry level price has dropped to ten grand or so and the manners of some owners have dropped with it. Come to think of it, I go to a lot of exotic car functions and I've never heard a Ferrari owner say any other exotic sucks.

yss 07-29-2012 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by DucBoy (Post 3741479)
Funny, just the kind of comment HD types make about more modern, better engineered bikes. I have nothing bad to say about Cigs, loved the one I had, and admire their lines and the brand - it's just too bad that the entry level price has dropped to ten grand or so and the manners of some owners have dropped with it. Come to think of it, I go to a lot of exotic car functions and I've never heard a Ferrari owner say any other exotic sucks.

Calm down, dry your eyes, you need a tissue?... OLs are nice boats. IT was mostly a joke. You seem very important - you go to exotic car functions - WOW!!! Where are you now the polo club?

DucBoy 07-30-2012 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by yss (Post 3741514)
Calm down, dry your eyes, you need a tissue?... OLs are nice boats. IT was mostly a joke. You seem very important - you go to exotic car functions - WOW!!! Where are you now the polo club?

Can't help it if my eyes water when I look over the windshield at speed - and yes, that does often lead to the need for a tissue...but not to wipe my face!:eekdrop:

kreed 07-30-2012 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by DucBoy (Post 3741658)
Can't help it if my eyes water when I look over the windshield at speed - and yes, that does often lead to the need for a tissue...but not to wipe my face!:eekdrop:

Hahahaha!...nice

4195 07-30-2012 10:48 AM

Cigarette really set the bar, they created the market and it was the brand promotion that made it a house hold name. I love all the offshore boats I think some are better then others and some do certain things better. With that being said I love how the Cig looks when it is sitting at the dock it just draws you in. I have seen little kids to grandmothers taking in by them it's just the way it is.

H20 Toie 07-30-2012 11:27 AM

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There is something about a Cig, even though mine doesn't have the killer paint job, just kind of a classy look it made the cover of the upcoming Sportboat Magazine and trust me there were some amazing looking boats at Desert Storm. Hell i bet my entire boat didn't cost as much as some of the paint jobs on other boats.

UrbanDisturbance 07-30-2012 12:23 PM

That's pretty cool. Yea! I can't see them putting a Baja on the front cover. LOL

pm203 07-31-2012 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by DucBoy (Post 3740074)
I recently left the ranks of Cigarette owners and, while I loved my Cig for what it was, I am absolutely thrilled with my new (to me) OL. Someone equated Cigarette to Ferrari. As a Ferrari owner, I would say the comparison is more fairly to HD, and the relationship of my Old Cig to my new OL would be comparable to a HD to a Ducati. Cig has a great history and has done a fantastic job of capitalizing on its brand such that anyone should be proud to own one; that being said, there are other, lesser known makes out there that have made some performance innovations that are very attractive. My $0.02.

If you are going to do comparisons, comparing a Cig to a Harley is just not accurate. The Cig has always been built very well.The newer ones, have even better build quality and craftmanship, almost Bentley like.
So, what would that make Ol? I would compare older ones to Lambo (before Audi took over)and newer ones to Lambo( after Audi took over). Quality much improved and consistent with a lower production hand built item.

mmb 07-31-2012 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by DucBoy (Post 3741479)
Come to think of it, I go to a lot of exotic car functions and I've never heard a Ferrari owner say any other exotic sucks.

Yeah but they talk trash about the American Icon cars.... And I personally think Ferrari's and Lambo's are ugly slow mofo's

BTW what does pasta cars and your boat have to do with this thread???? If you want someone to kiss your ass go to the OL forum.....

yss 07-31-2012 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by mmb (Post 3742806)
Yeah but they talk trash about the American Icon cars.... And I personally think Ferrari's and Lambo's are ugly slow mofo's

BTW what does pasta cars and your boat have to do with this thread???? If you want someone to kiss your ass go to the OL forum.....


Pretty sure he wants us to know that he is the best, his Ducati is the best, he has an exotic car and hangs out with guys with Ferraris and lambos and that his OL is so awesome it makes him have an accident in his pants.

dcb 07-31-2012 02:39 PM

Why come on a Cig thread and talk about how great your OL is? Doesnt make sense. If we were OL lovers we wouldnt own Cigarettes.

EightSecv6 07-31-2012 07:45 PM

a Cigarette is just dead sexy, it doesnt matter what year or model. Its a "Cigarette"... If you dont have one, you want one. Nuff said

DucBoy 07-31-2012 10:42 PM


Originally Posted by yss (Post 3742815)
Pretty sure he wants us to know that he is the best, his Ducati is the best, he has an exotic car and hangs out with guys with Ferraris and lambos and that his OL is so awesome it makes him have an accident in his pants.

Awww, thanks, buddy! Come to think of it, no, YOU are the best! Next beer is on me!:evilb:

682gold 08-01-2012 08:53 AM

OH DAMN!!! This whole time I thought he was talking about a Baja Outlaw (OL). :lolhit: I was saying to myself..........Self my Hallett is a heluva lot nicer than a Baja!!!:eekdrop:

QuarterFlash 08-02-2012 01:09 PM

Just took delivery of my 39 TGU on 7/4. Replaces my 382 Foumula with 500 EFI and boxes. Must say the Cig rides way better than the Formula on Lake Erie. I thought the Formula rode well, but the Cig rides better at 10-15 mph faster. Even my wife, who would prefer a 39 Sea Ray, thinks it rides better. Having said that, the boat takes more effort to drive than the Formula and wanders so much at idle that I look like a drunk. As for performance it is really fast the formula was 77 -78 80 for the Cig 80 is a casual push of the throttle and so far 97 is as fast as I have had it. I'm sure with a little work and a little more chop I'll be in the tripple digit club.

Full Force 08-02-2012 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by QuarterFlash (Post 3744504)
Just took delivery of my 39 TGU on 7/4. Replaces my 382 Foumula with 500 EFI and boxes. Must say the Cig rides way better than the Formula on Lake Erie. I thought the Formula rode well, but the Cig rides better at 10-15 mph faster. Even my wife, who would prefer a 39 Sea Ray, thinks it rides better. Having said that, the boat takes more effort to drive than the Formula and wanders so much at idle that I look like a drunk. As for performance it is really fast the formula was 77 -78 80 for the Cig 80 is a casual push of the throttle and so far 97 is as fast as I have had it. I'm sure with a little work and a little more chop I'll be in the tripple digit club.

which one is it?? been to KI? I am there every weekend saw a few 39's lately come to casino....any pics??

QuarterFlash 08-02-2012 04:29 PM

The green and blackand silver one parked next to the red one on Sunday

Full Force 08-02-2012 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by QuarterFlash (Post 3744675)
The green and blackand silver one parked next to the red one on Sunday

OH! 2 buds and I were standing at the end of the dock when you came in, we were wondering why we never saw that Cig before, looks sweet with the green and silver!! your buddy knows my friend Sky...

I will come say hi when I see you again, I got the 85 Mistress my buddy Tommy has my twin..his is 86

QuarterFlash 08-02-2012 06:47 PM

Ok sounds like a plan. Going to miss this wekend got a wedding, but will be up next weekend and probably stop by the Casino.

Full Force 08-02-2012 09:14 PM

I am only up Friday this weekend, next weekend I should be around....

J-Bonz 08-02-2012 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by QuarterFlash (Post 3744504)
Just took delivery of my 39 TGU on 7/4. Replaces my 382 Foumula with 500 EFI and boxes. Must say the Cig rides way better than the Formula on Lake Erie. I thought the Formula rode well, but the Cig rides better at 10-15 mph faster. Even my wife, who would prefer a 39 Sea Ray, thinks it rides better. Having said that, the boat takes more effort to drive than the Formula and wanders so much at idle that I look like a drunk. As for performance it is really fast the formula was 77 -78 80 for the Cig 80 is a casual push of the throttle and so far 97 is as fast as I have had it. I'm sure with a little work and a little more chop I'll be in the tripple digit club.

Sharp boat! I checked it out over the past weekend when it was on the lift. My brother inlaw owns a condo in the Harbor. Its Kinda ironic. I saw it brand new at both the NYC and Atlantic City Boat Show when Ocean had it for sale...

dcb 08-03-2012 09:07 AM

Drop the tabs all the way down at idle and it wont wander so much.

682gold 08-03-2012 11:33 AM

Ok back on task what is it about a cig??

offshore Therapy 08-03-2012 11:57 AM

Its a life style ; )

QuarterFlash 08-03-2012 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by dcb (Post 3745110)
Drop the tabs all the way down at idle and it wont wander so much.

Thanks I'll try that next week

outlawfun 08-03-2012 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by 682gold (Post 3743434)
OH DAMN!!! This whole time I thought he was talking about a Baja Outlaw (OL). :lolhit: I was saying to myself..........Self my Hallett is a heluva lot nicer than a Baja!!!:eekdrop:

Here we go bashin Baja. I have a 99 36 outlaw that was on lake ozark then on michigan all it's life with no stress cracks and a way better cabin and cock pit than a top gun. By the way the 36 outlaw was splashed from a Cig if you didn't know.
I've always liked the 38 top gun but not enough space. :party-smiley-004:

outlawfun 08-03-2012 06:42 PM

94 Top Gun
 
Nice 94 Top Gun Just went up for sale in New Hampshire on Power boat listing if anyones looking

Full Force 08-04-2012 01:43 AM


Originally Posted by outlawfun (Post 3745433)
Here we go bashin Baja. I have a 99 36 outlaw that was on lake ozark then on michigan all it's life with no stress cracks and a way better cabin and cock pit than a top gun. By the way the 36 outlaw was splashed from a Cig if you didn't know.
I've always liked the 38 top gun but not enough space. :party-smiley-004:

I had. 32 Baja....now have a 35 cig.... I loved my Baja and I beat the fuk.out.it...but the cig destroys it in big water....fit and finish... the wiring.g alone speaks for itself... no comparison.....sorry.......space or ride quality...I will take the ride.... :)

outlawfun 08-04-2012 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 3745635)
I had. 32 Baja....now have a 35 cig.... I loved my Baja and I beat the fuk.out.it...but the cig destroys it in big water....fit and finish... the wiring.g alone speaks for itself... no comparison.....sorry.......space or ride quality...I will take the ride.... :)

Your old 320 force is nothing like the 36 outlaw, I took 2 topguns out last year (94 and 98) both real nice clean boats (and both still for sale), I have to admit the engine compartment was done real nice but as for as fit and finish for the rest of the boat it's the same. I've never had any problems with either Baja I had. Built with same parts, hand laid fiberglass, bolsa core in bottom and sides,plexus bonding for hull to deck with threw screws, 502mpi, Gaffrig gauges, Mcleod electric seats,Kiekaefer controls, Vacuflush toilet, Custom paint in gel coat,snap in carpet, s.s rub rail,heavy duty pop up cleats, a/c and Ref which Cig doesn't have, both are actual size listed unlike fountain and formula.I know Cigarette has a great hull and that's why I origanally looked at them but 36 OL has more cockpit space , cabin is set up better and Cig designed the hull. Just Doesn't say Cig. I know alot of people like to trash Baja but thier build process is the same as the others, they just built more boats than all the others. Lower costs =sell more boats=best selling performance boat ever. Cig will always be #1 just like Harley but their are other options. Baja has a huge following.:party-smiley-004:

soggy bottom 08-04-2012 05:51 AM

94 Top Gun
 

Originally Posted by outlawfun (Post 3745449)
Nice 94 Top Gun Just went up for sale in New Hampshire on Power boat listing if anyones looking

If it's Gordon's your talking about a forum member has already bought it.

outlawfun 08-04-2012 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by soggy bottom (Post 3745645)
If it's Gordon's your talking about a forum member has already bought it.

Nice. Were's he going to boat with it?:evilb:

4195 08-04-2012 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by outlawfun (Post 3745647)
Nice. Were's he going to boat with it?:evilb:

The boat is here in CT. He will be using it in Long Island Sound. The funny thing is the boat was sold new here from Ocean Performance. Now about the Baja stuff I had one 10 years ago and it was a great boat. No stress cracks no issues what so ever I loved that boat, but truth be told once I went for a ride in a Cigarette in rough water I had to have one. It is that simple the ride won me right over. The Baja has a much bigger cockpit and is probably a more user friendly boat, it is definitely better hangin out on it. But when it comes to the ride quality it is Cigarette hands down IMO.

outlawfun 08-04-2012 06:39 AM


Originally Posted by 4195 (Post 3745653)
The boat is here in CT. He will be using it in Long Island Sound. The funny thing is the boat was sold new here from Ocean Performance. Now about the Baja stuff I had one 10 years ago and it was a great boat. No stress cracks no issues what so ever I loved that boat, but truth be told once I went for a ride in a Cigarette in rough water I had to have one. It is that simple the ride won me right over. The Baja has a much bigger cockpit and is probably a more user friendly boat, it is definitely better hangin out on it. But when it comes to the ride quality it is Cigarette hands down IMO.

I looked at your 35 last year as well when on the hunt for a bigger boat (nice paint job) but wasn't big enough. I suppose with a 42 tiger I would have no complaints about room but still don't get why they never had more cockpit space to hang around in.

Full Force 08-04-2012 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by outlawfun (Post 3745643)
Your old 320 force is nothing like the 36 outlaw, I took 2 topguns out last year (94 and 98) both real nice clean boats (and both still for sale), I have to admit the engine compartment was done real nice but as for as fit and finish for the rest of the boat it's the same. I've never had any problems with either Baja I had. Built with same parts, hand laid fiberglass, bolsa core in bottom and sides,plexus bonding for hull to deck with threw screws, 502mpi, Gaffrig gauges, Mcleod electric seats,Kiekaefer controls, Vacuflush toilet, Custom paint in gel coat,snap in carpet, s.s rub rail,heavy duty pop up cleats, a/c and Ref which Cig doesn't have, both are actual size listed unlike fountain and formula.I know Cigarette has a great hull and that's why I origanally looked at them but 36 OL has more cockpit space , cabin is set up better and Cig designed the hull. Just Doesn't say Cig. I know alot of people like to trash Baja but thier build process is the same as the others, they just built more boats than all the others. Lower costs =sell more boats=best selling performance boat ever. Cig will always be #1 just like Harley but their are other options. Baja has a huge following.:party-smiley-004:

I am not trashing Baja at all... I have a few friends that worked there as I am local to where they were built.... both are great boats...but the Baja is not built as strong and yes has the space which I do miss but the ride is better I don't care whT...there is a reason figs cost 3x in more in most cases.... I did have old 320 yes... and that was one of the best and heaviest hills they made... ask Baja guys... and my cig docks it in big lake Erie slop.....I never said bajas were junk....

682gold 08-04-2012 06:53 PM

Relax
 

Originally Posted by outlawfun (Post 3745433)
Here we go bashin Baja. I have a 99 36 outlaw that was on lake ozark then on michigan all it's life with no stress cracks and a way better cabin and cock pit than a top gun. By the way the 36 outlaw was splashed from a Cig if you didn't know.
I've always liked the 38 top gun but not enough space. :party-smiley-004:

Relax. Just messing win the outer limits guys. I do know the outlaw came out of the older cig molds.

682gold 08-04-2012 07:10 PM

Ok back on task. I would love for Baja owners to defend their boats but this is a forum about What is it about a Cigarette?!!! I don't know what goes on on the Baja thread but I'm sure it is just titillating conversation about how great they really are. Great!! Cigs is what I want to hear about !!!!!

36Envision 08-04-2012 10:53 PM


Originally Posted by 682gold (Post 3746053)
Ok back on task. I would love for Baja owners to defend their boats but this is a forum about What is it about a Cigarette?!!! I don't know what goes on on the Baja thread but I'm sure it is just titillating conversation about how great they really are. Great!! Cigs is what I want to hear about !!!!!

Agree. Nothing against Baja or Baja owners. I also like some of the Baja builds but this is a Cigarette discussion as to why folks like the Cigarette brand. Let's not compare, it does not help anyone out, especially Baja. :party-smiley-004:


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