What is it about a cig?
 

Doing my reasearch about Cigs I have come to the conclusion that Cigarette's have a very loyal almost cultish following. I had asked about speed on the older boat and got alot of good information. The older cigs don't seem to be the fastest or flashiest but they have a very loyal following. Old or new Cigs just seem to have something? What is it?

Solid construction, timeless lines, great ride, and the name.

As a non Cigarette owner who loves the brand I look at it like this.

To me Cigarette is just like Ferrari.

1. Name - This is not a negative thing.
When was the last time you heard someone ask is that one of those Scarab boats?
Cigarette is like Kleenex or Band-Aid. It got that way because of -

2. Quality - Always had it and always will.
3. History - Speaks for itself.
4. Benchmark Status - It seems everything is compared to it.

#1 enough said!

There are two kinds of boat owners.

Ones who own a Cigarette.... and ones who wish that they own a Cigarette!

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I don't know about the new Cigarettes, but I have a 1994 Cigarette Top Gun. It's heavy, solid, but not super fast (YET). 70mph for now. When its rough, you can still go fast and not have to worry about your hull cracking. I have no stress cracks. The boat does not flex. The individual that surveyed my boat told me a Baja will have more stress cracks in it in one year than a Cigarette will have in 10 years. The individual that I bought my boat from was in a brand new 38 foot Fountain in simi rough water (3 foot chop). They were going fast and the floor under them cracked. When it's rough, the Cigarette shines even more. Everytime its rough, I pass up everyone. Exspecially if a storm approaches and you have 5 foot waves. Their boats can't seem to keep up. The only thing that I don't like about the Cigarette is that Cigarette did not seal the cutout holes in the transom for the Bravo Drives in 1994. If they leak, water gets in the wood of the transom. I am getting Arneson drives put on and found out the hard way. I was lucky that the wood was not rotten and it took 3 weeks to dry out with heaters. This is something to check and make sure you get at least XR drives, not bravo 1's like I just took off. You have to baby them and be gental on the throttle getting on plane. This is true for all large boats with bravos. If you get bravo drives, I recommend getting the Halo Max drive shower. Good Luck!

100% Agree! After you have one, you are glad you didn't buy something else. It's funny. Once I had someone come to me and ask who made my boat. Even though the Cigarette Logo was on the side, it's nice to say "i have the boat that all other boats were named after, it's the original sh*t."

Narrow , solid construction .....I personally think the 38 Twin Step is one of the best bottoms ever built. I raced a brand new TG w/ 575's and it was super fast @ 93 mph.

Often imitated, never duplicated......Cigarette #1

I am I cig owner,name everyone knows,but for me when it is snotty out the ride is like no other,built very well,love the lines of the boat,down side is if you want max speed its not going to be cheap,they can run but it takes a lot of power,I will never be the fastest but I am happy with 80mph in 1 to 2ft chop,78 in flat water

Well said

I've worked on a lot of different boats over the past year and none of the other brands were built or rigged as well as a cigarette

Chicks dig the real thing:party-smiley-004:

One of the things that REALLY does it for me is the looks.

I am just head over heals for the looks of a CIG. When one is sitting in the water and you're looking at it straight on, yuo can just tell it's a CIG.

Man, I'm pumped abotu the Poker Run tomorrow now.....

I have owned 2 and like the others have said very well constructed and rigged. My first performance boat was a Fountain, there is no comparison to the level of craftsmanship and attention to detail. With that said you will pay more for a Cig,. I recently bought a 21 year old Powerplay and have been very impressed with the build quality!

+1. Lot of people don't realize these boats are only an 8ft beam. Most others are 8ft 6in. Thin sharp knife will cut better than a fat dull one. Consistently overbuilt is a good way to describe the construction. Thick solid glass hulls with no core......atleast on the running surface combined with the tremendous loyalty of their employees are why they are so well contructed.

The smooth Ride I think is number one in my book, especially on Lake Erie..

Video Compliments of Full Fart:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=RkIdBlNuxMM#!

This pretty much somes this whole thread up! I hope to join the cig army in a few years.

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7743...-1-on-the-side

#1.....well said for sure! 2x

I recently left the ranks of Cigarette owners and, while I loved my Cig for what it was, I am absolutely thrilled with my new (to me) OL. Someone equated Cigarette to Ferrari. As a Ferrari owner, I would say the comparison is more fairly to HD, and the relationship of my Old Cig to my new OL would be comparable to a HD to a Ducati. Cig has a great history and has done a fantastic job of capitalizing on its brand such that anyone should be proud to own one; that being said, there are other, lesser known makes out there that have made some performance innovations that are very attractive. My $0.02.

Agree that OL is a fantastic boat, I am a big big fan of what they are doing....but I am doubtful you will ever see 50%+ of used boats that aren't Outerlimits advertised as "Outerlimits" with Outerlimits decals on the side....like with all the used "Cigarettes" advertised that aren't Cigarettes.

You can't buy, or build, 40+ years of Heritage and Owner Loyalty....it will be interesting to see if 20, 30, or even 40 years from now what brands will still be around...I for sure will take the bet that Cigarette will be one of them...wouldn't take that bet on any other brand.

"There can be only one(#1)"...

Dave

All good points, but the thread that was started was, "what is it about a Cigarette?".....N O T..... "Lets comare Cigarette to every other brand........again! :)"

It's quite a stretch to compare an 80's designed 35 to a 2000's designed 42. They are in totally different price points, technology points, etc.

Cigarette has the look and also the consistency. The boats I grew up drooling over at the boat show can be had in a modernized form. Other brands have evolved a lot more with their design so you have to fall in love with something new Vs. sticking to what you have loved for decades.

The one place I think Cig is blowing it though... no small boats at a semi-reasonable price. Even though expensive for their size guys could get into a 20, 30, 35 and grow into the brand. Now the smallest boat they build is the 38 which requires not only a much bigger boat cost, but bigger storage, towing, maintenance, etc. costs.

If they stick to this path... over the next couple of decades another brand will be the new #1

Agree 100%.... IMHO they should come out with a "Classic Line", a basic no frills Single 28 (preferably a sit-down, think "28 Glad") with only what you need, but still with CIG style/quality and it would be a Home Run. In today's economy it could even stimulate new boat sales...and as you said, breed new Cig owners that may step up to larger CIG boats latter. Besides, not every one needs to "compensate" with all the long ass boats...J/K :-)

Seriously, there are a LOT of inland lake guys that would jump on a mid-sized CIG for inland stuff, yet still have offshore capabilities for the occasional coastal trips. In the majority of the lakes I like to frequent you couldn't even make a U-turn at speed with a 38+ in most places on those lakes,...it would be like making a U-turn with an F-650 w/50' trailer on a 2 lane road..LOL

Dave

for me its the classic look...amazing rids and quality build... I been on many cigs and love the way they ride especially on Lake Erie and j bonz said and.oisted my video... the mistress itself is extremely strong and heavy...as a result mine does 63 so far as a best... BUT in any water up to 5-8footers so far that I have ran her in... not one time was I saying ouch on that ride... if I was in my 32 Baja I always was feeling it all.. I love my cig and the classic look she has...ifs like having a 68 Shelby..... always turns heads

when LE starts crankin next month as we head into fall i am sure I will have more videos......

Small boats is not Cigarette's Market. I think Cigarette is doing just fine without building lakeboats. Many companies build lakeboats with success. Cigarette wants to build top end products that stand alone.

your running 63 in 5-8 footers???really???

Completely agree, and wasn't trying to compare hull to hull(even thought they are 10 years apart). Cigarette has done a great job on protecting and promoting its brand - but I think that, if people were honest with themselves and had $600,000 burning a hole in their pocket for a new go fast, I don't know that the end result would be a new Cig in the garage.

I wasn't talking about "lakeboats"...unless you consider this a "lakeboat"... :-)

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/a...ig-28-oc-3.jpg

But I understand what you are saying.

Cheers,

Dave

Agree 100% also, honestly if I were going to buy a new boat... the OL 28SV would be at the top of the list for my purposes......and then put the other half of the 600K in a Fuel Trust fund. :-) ... OR, beg CIG to build me a "28 Gladiator"...but that would probably blow the whole 600K+ to get them to do that for me.. :-(

Cheers,

Dave

Back in 1973, my family had a summer home on the bay in Ocean City, Md. There was a kid my age that had a Magnum (red and white) his father was in real estate. I used to see the boat go out and always said I would have one one day. Well I didnt buy a Magnum, but I love my Cigarette and have owned many boats including jet and v-drives, outboards, etc. By far the best built and rigged boat I have owned. And yes, if I had 600k to buy a new go-fast it would be a Cig.

the straight sides of the boat makes "that" look for a cigarette....
most boats bubble out or in to some degree

Dave, I am with you on this one... The 28ss has always had a strong following. As an entry level boat it would be great. I remember in 97 when one of the Cig guys built a 28 that everyone drooled over. It's a great freshwater boat and has great offshore capabilities and is easy to tow. It's a great place to start....IMO!

That pic is badass!

OL's suck. They ride in the water like they're pushing nose down thru the water. Cigs have better lines, carry the bow much better and CRUSH way bigger waves. If I had $9,000,000.00 I'd buy a cig before I bought an OL. There's ONLY ONE #1....

This Boat is Classic Cigarette !
I would say Cigs are 1, Because They are .
No arguments, it's a statement :whistle:

Nice, I haven't seen many 33's.....

that video was doing 55-60 in 5-7's lake Erie has shirt waves which is good and bad.. ... the waves are 5 ft high....5 ft apart... but in a cheaper boat they will kick ur azz... the cig gets up on top and rolls em.... the mistress is lime no other I been on for the size...

For me its always been and always will be the attention to detail, the difference cockpit configurations and speaking specifically about the step bottom boats the ride is second to none and miles ahead of flat bottom boats

The lines are timeless and stand alone. I love a lot other boats, but the cigs have always had the best lines!