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Unlimited jd 09-28-2012 08:56 PM

Info on this top gun?
 
Anyone know this boat?
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o46869-en.html
Any differences in a bravo boat than a speed master or trs boat? Other than the obvious.

seafordguy 09-28-2012 09:42 PM

I'd say bravos are more sought after. Since they are easily replaced. I've seen it at local runs. Always looked nice from the dock, but others on here could give you better feedback

Unlimited jd 09-29-2012 06:51 AM

I don't want the bravos, If I'm able to put a deal together they'll be off in the first day.

Sydwayz 09-29-2012 08:04 AM

I know the owner. He's one of the nicest guys in the local boating circle. Definately a straight shooter, and no bad history on it physically.

The boat was once owned by OSO member CashBar way back in he day. It was embroiled in the National Marine scandal years ago, sold without paying off title, etc. It's all fair and square now though.

Unlimited jd 09-29-2012 08:53 AM

Thank you, anyone know the condition of the paint and hull? Only glass work I want to do is the transom for 3's

NotBoyToyz 09-29-2012 12:09 PM

HEy I appreciate the comments on the boat. :-) I dont think the boat was ever caught up in the Nat liqidators mess. I bought it from Trace martin in Jan of 2004. It belonged to a gentleman that took it to the bahamas on the weekends to play golf. He sold it because in the bahamas he had it on a lift that you filled with air. When they disallowed the lift at the marina he bought a midnight express. Thank You for taking an interest.

thisistank 09-29-2012 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by NotBoyToyz (Post 3786722)
HEy I appreciate the comments on the boat. :-) I dont think the boat was ever caught up in the Nat liqidators mess. I bought it from Trace martin in Jan of 2004. It belonged to a gentleman that took it to the bahamas on the weekends to play golf. He sold it because in the bahamas he had it on a lift that you filled with air. When they disallowed the lift at the marina he bought a midnight express. Thank You for taking an interest.

Lol, must be nice: "gonna take the cig over to the Bahamas to shoot 18 today"......daaaaaaayum! :eekdrop:

Smitty 09-29-2012 02:04 PM

Why mess with putting 3A's on it. Then you have to add trannies--another thing to break. And changing the CG of the boat.

Put Arneson's on it and go 8-10 mph faster than it runs now and no failures. Plus the 3A's will most likely slow it down a bit.


Check out KVOGT's Cig on here. He has Arneson's and it hauls the mail !!

Unlimited jd 09-29-2012 03:21 PM

You buying????? Plenty of top guns were built with speed masters and trs. So I don't see the cog being an issue. I own the 3's for $0 and there less prone to break than bravos. Don't have the money for arnesons.

Unlimited jd 09-29-2012 03:24 PM

Kvogt's cig is a flat deck, no notch in the transom. Not sure how arnesons would react on a notched boat either.

Smitty 09-29-2012 03:42 PM

Gotcha You didn't say you already had the 3A's.

When I buy a Top Gun in 2 yrs, it will have Arnesons on it. Can't beat the speed increases and durability. Done with busting Bravo's.

thisistank 09-29-2012 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by lil red (Post 3786778)
You buying????? Plenty of top guns were built with speed masters and trs. So I don't see the cog being an issue. I own the 3's for $0 and there less prone to break than bravos. Don't have the money for arnesons.

3A's are an awesome drive! Had em on our gun and loved them. The Top Guns were actually built for trannies and run better with them. You'll have a bullet proof package.

Rik 09-29-2012 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by lil red (Post 3786780)
Kvogt's cig is a flat deck, no notch in the transom. Not sure how arnesons would react on a notched boat either.

The notch does not have an effect on the Arneson's. We have them on both notched and non notched transom Cig's.

Faster and handle better than the #3's/TRS or Bravo's

4195 09-29-2012 04:30 PM

Jamie Tank had 3a's with Hawk Power so he would know about the ride. Bravo Top Guns porpoise at certain speed. I can't wait for you to buy a Cigarette, especially because we all know how much Scot (ss930) secretly wants "1"

thisistank 09-29-2012 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by 4195 (Post 3786803)
Jamie Tank had 3a's with Hawk Power so he would know about the ride. Bravo Top Guns porpoise at certain speed. I can't wait for you to buy a Cigarette, especially because we all know how much Scot (ss930) secretly wants "1"

Yep, except it was Merc 525SC's not hawks. With the motors pushed forward the CG is correct with a trannied gun.

Unlimited jd 09-29-2012 05:16 PM

Now it's a matter of moving money around, and seeing the boat myself. Still trying to decide if this is a good idea. I have a 40 in real nice shape already but its no top gun.

Unlimited jd 09-29-2012 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by Rik (Post 3786792)
The notch does not have an effect on the Arneson's. We have them on both notched and non notched transom Cig's.

Faster and handle better than the #3's/TRS or Bravo's

I wish I could afford arnesons but I am in no way in a position to spend that much. I'm scraping together and selling just to see if I can come up with enough to buy the boat less power. Didn't mean anything negative against them just beyond my budget.

Sydwayz 09-29-2012 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by NotBoyToyz (Post 3786722)
HEy I appreciate the comments on the boat. :-) I dont think the boat was ever caught up in the Nat liqidators mess. I bought it from Trace martin in Jan of 2004. It belonged to a gentleman that took it to the bahamas on the weekends to play golf. He sold it because in the bahamas he had it on a lift that you filled with air. When they disallowed the lift at the marina he bought a midnight express. Thank You for taking an interest.

Sorry if I am mistaken Emmet!

302Sport 09-29-2012 06:34 PM

You should consult with sick, he was looking for a TG for his buddy KC last year in this thread....
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/c...8-top-gun.html

:whistle:

Unlimited jd 09-29-2012 06:59 PM

Im the broke guy remember?????? I'm looking at guns with no power:party-smiley-004:

t500hps 09-29-2012 08:06 PM

I'll second (or is it 3rd) that Emmet is a straight shooter and will divulge any known issues with the boat......so just call him!!!!

Unlimited jd 09-29-2012 08:24 PM

Thank you for the reassurance, we've spoke via email and I will be calling this week to see if he's available when I'm in the area.


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