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Conquistador 03-23-2013 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 3876522)
I tried to tell people it's not always bad engines have not ran in a while, I stills ay that boat was a great deal...

I agree. The 572 custom built engines, trannies, Gaffrig headers with Gaffrig silencer tips, and #3 SSM drives are worth quite a bit. All the engines parts are top of the line (especially from 10 years ago) and the 12 qt Gil pans add to the mix.


Originally Posted by kreed (Post 3876535)
It sounds nasty! Love it..

Yep, both engines fired up and sound great in person. No leaks in the engines or the headers.


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 3876596)
Those are some sick looking headers

My understanding is that only about 30 sets of these Gaffrig headers were made. The middle section can be taken out.


Originally Posted by delsol (Post 3877145)
Did you check valve springs?

We only did a visual check before firing them to make sure they ran.

Onwards, Bill

Full Force 03-23-2013 05:49 AM

I shoulda grabbed that... chit... lol

Unlimited jd 03-23-2013 06:55 AM

I'll sell you some 3's and gimbles way cheap!

Conquistador 03-23-2013 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 3890964)
I shoulda grabbed that... chit... lol

Quite honestly, it was a gamble that could have gone either way. Jim (the seller) sounded straight and honest so I took the leap of faith.
I hope to have the engines dressed out and installed in a couple months.

Rick G 03-23-2013 04:01 PM

Let me know when you decide what you are going to do with the hull and Trailor.
Rick G.

Full Force 03-23-2013 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by Conquistador (Post 3891077)
Quite honestly, it was a gamble that could have gone either way. Jim (the seller) sounded straight and honest so I took the leap of faith.
I hope to have the engines dressed out and installed in a couple months.

either way it was still a deal even if engines didnt fire.... TONS of parts there

Conquistador 03-23-2013 11:11 PM


Originally Posted by Rick G (Post 3891179)
Let me know when you decide what you are going to do with the hull and Trailor.
Rick G.

I will be selling the boat and trailer very soon. If you want to talk more, just email me at [email protected] Bill

Conquistador 03-31-2013 12:42 PM

Ignition systems
 
The carburated 572s now have older Mercruiser V6 ignition systems, but I don't believe there are rev limiters. Does anyone have a suggestion on what ignition system might be better? I am leaning towards the MSD 6ML package with the billet ditributors, but I am open to suggestions. Bill

Rick G 03-31-2013 02:34 PM

Bill I run 605 cu in N/A big blocks in my flat deck and I run the msd 6 ml boxes with merc distributors without issues. My motors make about 725 Hp.
RG.

Biggus 03-31-2013 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by Conquistador (Post 3895899)
The carburated 572s now have older Mercruiser V6 ignition systems, but I don't believe there are rev limiters. Does anyone have a suggestion on what ignition system might be better? I am leaning towards the MSD 6ML package with the billet ditributors, but I am open to suggestions. Bill

FWIW, I'm a big fan of the Thunderbolt IV w/the V6 module. It works well for your application, simple, reliable and can be diagnosed with a test light. No, it does not come with a rev limiter, but if you have to have one the HP500 carbed rev limiter will connect right up to the TB IV.

I've experienced too many MSD failures to ever consider that route again.

Rick G 03-31-2013 06:10 PM

Biggus I can't argue with you last year had a small short and blu the port msd 400 bucks later solved the problem. I my try your set up this year.
RG.

Unlimited jd 03-31-2013 07:24 PM

Only problem with the merc ignitions is the early rev limiters caused some severe problems for me last year. Other than that great systems.

MILD THUNDER 03-31-2013 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Biggus (Post 3895963)
FWIW, I'm a big fan of the Thunderbolt IV w/the V6 module. It works well for your application, simple, reliable and can be diagnosed with a test light. No, it does not come with a rev limiter, but if you have to have one the HP500 carbed rev limiter will connect right up to the TB IV.

I've experienced too many MSD failures to ever consider that route again.

I agree! Between me and my close boating buddy, we lost a total of 4 msd boxes in 2 summers. He lost 2, I lost 2. At 350 bucks a box for the marine ones, unacceptable for me. Switched to Crane myself. Heres a pic of the internals of each. You be the judge.

sonic700 03-31-2013 10:05 PM

Mild is right!!!! Crane is the way to go. They hook right up to the MSD coil and Distributor. It also has a indicator light to show you whats going on and built in adjustable Rev limiters. Plus they are black and go with every paint option. It sucks running with a spare MSD box waiting for it to go out.

MILD THUNDER 03-31-2013 10:24 PM


Originally Posted by sonic700 (Post 3896241)
Mild is right!!!! Crane is the way to go. They hook right up to the MSD coil and Distributor. It also has a indicator light to show you whats going on and built in adjustable Rev limiters. Plus they are black and go with every paint option. It sucks running with a spare MSD box waiting for it to go out.

Yup. That blue box didnt go with my scheme at all. Not too mention, you can find the Crane 6000-6440 Digital race box, with built in limiter and diagnostic function, for around 200 bucks. The MSD marine 6560 is almost twice that, and isnt even a Digital box.

ICDEDPPL 03-31-2013 11:59 PM

Dammit another thing you clowns are gonna make me order aren`t ya?
Someone hit me over the head with a lol stick!:lolhit:

Conquistador 04-01-2013 12:50 AM

Thanks to all of you who responded. I am going to have to ditch the idea of the MSD 6ML and consider getting the rev limiter for what I already have - the Merc V6 box. The Crane box also sounds good since I wouldn't have to get a rev limiter and it would be a new system. Onwards, Bill

FIXX 04-01-2013 12:52 AM

fixx
 

Originally Posted by Conquistador (Post 3895899)
The carburated 572s now have older Mercruiser V6 ignition systems, but I don't believe there are rev limiters. Does anyone have a suggestion on what ignition system might be better? I am leaning towards the MSD 6ML package with the billet ditributors, but I am open to suggestions. Bill

Bill,,remember that rev limiter box i sold you for your corvette,, well that can be wired in with the ignition,,boublr check on msd's website first..also you will need to buy the msd rev control box's for the msd 6ml..

or daytona sensors make a better box than msd..set it with a laptop..http://www.daytona-sensors.com/CD1.html

ps the daytona box looks like what crane use to sell,,crane box's are NLA so the daytona sensors are a identical match to cranes..

Scott B 04-01-2013 05:23 AM

Ditch the MSD. Cost me a couple tow ins, and eventually an engine. Theres a reason "if" you see them in a race boat they have two moduels and a switch to change over mid race..

And spares in the truck....

sonic700 04-01-2013 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 3896291)
Dammit another thing you clowns are gonna make me order aren`t ya?
Someone hit me over the head with a lol stick!:lolhit:

You don't have to order anything but a U.S. Tow membership if you keep that other box

MILD THUNDER 04-01-2013 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by sonic700 (Post 3896389)
You don't have to order anything but a U.S. Tow membership if you keep that other box

+1

The cranes also have a tach test feature which is cool. The Daytona sensors boxes are top notch, and do some really cool stuff. But they aren't cheap. Same guys who designed the crane box

Flamingo 42 04-01-2013 03:05 PM

I don't think the Cranes are USCG approved....

MILD THUNDER 04-01-2013 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by Flamingo 32 (Post 3896564)
I don't think the Cranes are USCG approved....

Correct. They are supposed to release another marine box soon i was told.

Stainless braided fuel line is NOT uscg approved either. Just sayin since we are on the uscg thing. Neither are my spark plug wires or plugs for that matter. :(

FIXX 04-03-2013 12:51 AM

fixx
 

Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 3896599)
Correct. They are supposed to release another marine box soon i was told.

Stainless braided fuel line is NOT uscg approved either. Just sayin since we are on the uscg thing. Neither are my spark plug wires or plugs for that matter. :(

crane was at the pri show at pheasant run last month,,they looked confused when i asked when they were going to come back out with the marine ignition again..it dont look promising..


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