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Old 07-29-2013 | 09:50 PM
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925hp Fast Forward Engines. 540ci with 420 blowers. Basically same set up he has.
do your engines have innercoolers and how much boost are you running?
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Old 07-29-2013 | 09:52 PM
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do your engines have innercoolers and how much boost are you running?
Yes we ran the chillers. Boost is 6lbs (flirts with 7 at max rpm)
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Old 07-29-2013 | 10:04 PM
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How do you know it's closed at idle without knowing the vacuum the engine is pulling???? We just went through this with mine... Had 4.5 power valves but it was still rich at idle... Put a vacuum gauge on it and the engine has 3.5" of vacuum at idle so we moved to a 2.5 power valve.....
3.5 in of vacuum seems low,what are you running for cams?
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Old 07-29-2013 | 10:05 PM
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I will let you get back to your regular programed schedule then! In the mean time I will be boating without fouling plugs!!
Wasn't tryin to be a dik, it's just that Dan, the original poster, has been having issues with the boat since he got it in the water. I've been trying to help him get it running better. He's getting all kinds of suggestions from several different people. He's new to carbs, and is trying to learn. So i don't want to see him getting confused.

Idle vacuum has no bearing on a non boost referenced roots blown setup. And chances are with a 2.5 powervalve on HIS setup, will potentially melt pistons.

My engines don't foul plugs, don't backfire , idle all day, and have a good fuel curve on the AFR meter. I also have 420 blowers and non boost referenced carbs.
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Old 07-29-2013 | 10:16 PM
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Yes we ran the chillers. Boost is 6lbs (flirts with 7 at max rpm)
What kind of speeds you gettin out of it? What drives? Looks like a nice gun
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Old 07-29-2013 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mike tkach
3.5 in of vacuum seems low,what are you running for cams?
Custom Madera Cams. Bob made them for 10lbs of boost, we didn't feel like spinning these baby blowers that hard. Had to run 22% OD to get what we have.
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Old 07-29-2013 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
Wasn't tryin to be a dik, it's just that Dan, the original poster, has been having issues with the boat since he got it in the water. I've been trying to help him get it running better. He's getting all kinds of suggestions from several different people. He's new to carbs, and is trying to learn. So i don't want to see him getting confused.

Idle vacuum has no bearing on a non boost referenced roots blown setup. And chances are with a 2.5 powervalve on HIS setup, will potentially melt pistons.

My engines don't foul plugs, don't backfire , idle all day, and have a good fuel curve on the AFR meter. I also have 420 blowers and non boost referenced carbs.
I understand you have to tune for a part throttle lean issue, but what keeps the plugs from fouling out if the Power Valve is wide open at idle? Not trying to be a dick either. Joe at Fast Forward tuned mine engines on the dyno.
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Old 07-29-2013 | 10:22 PM
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What kind of speeds you gettin out of it? What drives? Looks like a nice gun
Only ran it in flat lake water so far. It is right at 90mph. Konrad PRS III Drives
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Old 07-29-2013 | 10:29 PM
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I understand you have to tune for a part throttle lean issue, but what keeps the plugs from fouling out if the Power Valve is wide open at idle? Not trying to be a dick either. Joe at Fast Forward tuned mine engines on the dyno.
The engines aren't fouling plugs at idle. The problem was the carbs had 86 jets in the primary, 96 in secondaries WITH a powervalve in the secondary. So I was like havin 86/106 jets. It went waaaay rich as soon as the secondaries opened. I simply plugged the rear pv's and we went for a ride.

It's not opening at idle. If it was we'd see fuel dripping from the boosters at idle.
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Old 07-29-2013 | 10:30 PM
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Only ran it in flat lake water so far. It is right at 90mph. Konrad PRS III Drives
Good numbers . Wait till you get it in some chop!

Mid 90's easy
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