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mmb 10-03-2014 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by Sick Stinger (Post 4197152)
Mark kids get credit for drive and ambition. Thats as far as it goes talent is more then laying paint and making it look good but good over all product is conveying talent caring pride and good practices and morals across the board and through out.

Mike I agree! Kid will probably be a decent boat painter in 3-5 years. He just needs to tone down the imaginary fluff in his adds!

phragle 10-03-2014 09:20 PM

Gentlemen, this is what happens when you watch too much gas monkey garage.

http://rasica.files.wordpress.com/20...jpg.jpeg?w=645

Full Force 10-03-2014 10:01 PM

3 Attachment(s)
Quality restoration

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Full Force 10-03-2014 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by 315duramax (Post 4195555)
. But just know Tim... That I'm winning.. I did and will continue to Proove you wrong that I can build. :bestwishes:

seems like it...LOL

donzi matt 10-04-2014 12:24 AM

I never once said this boat was anything. And I would never take your word for it FF or anybody else. If the boat is a complete hack job it won't sell, pure and simple, and he will still learn a valuable lesson from that.

I stand by my position that you are here purely to fuk with this kid because you don't like him, and frankly that is low class in my eyes.

And since you were wondering why I wasn't in here defending my prior posts, it's because after 50 hours of work this week I had dinner with my family and then spent 5 hours actually assembling a motor instead of hand firing a load all over my keyboard about a boat I don't own and a kid I don't like.

As for you Cigmaster, you come in here with pictures nobody has ever seen and act like we should have driven out to Syracuse and personally inspected this boat before defending Phil. Come on man, I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE FINAL PRODUCT. The free market will dictate the eventual selling price of this boat, and if it sells for 15 grand then Phil will no doubt learn he has to up his game or not bother. I still stand by the fact he doesn't need people crapping on his boat that have no skin in the game.

Full Force 10-04-2014 06:11 AM


Originally Posted by donzi matt (Post 4197211)
I never once said this boat was anything. And I would never take your word for it FF or anybody else. If the boat is a complete hack job it won't sell, pure and simple, and he will still learn a valuable lesson from that.

I stand by my position that you are here purely to fuk with this kid because you don't like him, and frankly that is low class in my eyes.

And since you were wondering why I wasn't in here defending my prior posts, it's because after 50 hours of work this week I had dinner with my family and then spent 5 hours actually assembling a motor instead of hand firing a load all over my keyboard about a boat I don't own and a kid I don't like.

As for you Cigmaster, you come in here with pictures nobody has ever seen and act like we should have driven out to Syracuse and personally inspected this boat before defending Phil. Come on man, I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE FINAL PRODUCT. The free market will dictate the eventual selling price of this boat, and if it sells for 15 grand then Phil will no doubt learn he has to up his game or not bother. I still stand by the fact he doesn't need people crapping on his boat that have no skin in the game.

The funniest thing AGAIN, is that I am the only one that you and one other person are aiming at, this thread has had at least 20 haters yet you pinpoint me, admit its a fukking hack job... you wont.. low class? really? I guess you missed the part where Phil tole me and many others to go fuk ourselves before this got out of hand, like a few of use advised without being diks that he was towing with a 8" drop held with a pin hitch, BAD IDEA, we were nice, he schooled us on how he tows 15,000 lbs with it and we don't need to worry... now let me ask you since you worked so hard all week to have dinner with your family, would it not suck to have your wife and family killed because a smart ass kid tows a 14,000 lb boat with a chit hitch and it broke and the boat went off hit family head on? yea think about that.... but I am the azzhole... whatever....it all started with him... not me or anyone else, we tried to help, he was telling all of us we had no idea and his PERFECT work will show and when he sells the boat for big money, he was just as strong showing us as we were against him...

Where is Phil defending himself? I didn't say you defend yourself, I said PHIL... not sure how you got that.


I came in here with pics FROM THE SURVEY, not mine, but so many guys here said it looks great!!!!! I think whoever said that is either blind or was at least 100 feet away, come on... be a MAN and admit that is NOT quality....

all the pro Phil guys cannot admit it's a hack job now and look bad..I get it, but secretly all of you know it's a hack job..survey was sent to me and many others somehow.... man that just proved us right...

keep givin me the heat, it's the internet who cares, some guys here are buddys the rest not, does not effect my daily life and abilitys..if you guys think it's so nice buy it....

Full Force 10-04-2014 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by donzi matt (Post 4197211)
I never once said this boat was anything. And I would never take your word for it FF or anybody else. If the boat is a complete hack job it won't sell, pure and simple, and he will still learn a valuable lesson from that.

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you cant tell me that you don't think it's a hack job... come on..... admit it. One of my BIGGEST reasons for being a dik is he lies and hides... I don't want to see someone get fukked over, you saw my engine thread, the guy PHIL'D them for a buddy of mine and I got fukked because of it...they guy hacked these engines to the point of the blocks being saveable that's it.... so yes if I can make sure Phil does not do that to someone new to boating and pay too much for a hack job and I save one buyer from it I am happy.... but yet again I take the heat...

Woukld you not want to read a few threads or at least one on a boat that is hacked together before you spend 20,000++ on it? yea thought so... you pro Phil guys don't get it "watch out for fellow members" I AM! and someone might thank me, Sick Stinger, Mild Thunder, Offshore excursion, Yamaha24, Lil Red and a few others later for saving them from buying a hack job, I would rather a certain few bash on me then watch someone make a horrible decision... plain and simple, if you fault me for that then you have the issues....

I bet ICDEDPPL wishes he would have seen a thread with people saying how hacked his engines were and whatever else was HIDDEN on his boat before he bought it.... I GAURANTEE it and deep down he knows it.... so don't fault the guys calling Phil out....for trying to fuk someone over

Full Force 10-04-2014 06:27 AM

[QUOTE=donzi matt;4197211]
I stand by my position that you are here purely to fuk with this kid because you don't like him, and frankly that is low class in my eyes.

QUOTE]
Not at all the case, if I met him at a boating even I would buy him a beer and most likely we would smooth it over and move on, it has happened here with a few guys... I am not a person to make life suck for someone, just a guy who has been fukked over by things like Phil doing (my engines) and HATE BS'rs I have no personal issues with Phil just would not buy anything from him.

seafordguy 10-04-2014 07:18 AM

Nobody would have been mean to the kid had he approached it different. PERIOD. That's the whole bottom line here.....

vintage chromoly 10-04-2014 07:20 AM

No need to worry about anyone getting buffaloed on this pile of junk he's selling Tim. A 10 year old girl could look at that mess and immediately see it's a pile of crap. :lolhit:

There isn't an item / system on that boat that is up to snuff. The entire pile is in need of reworking. Honestly, it's worth more parted out as a proper restoration would put a guy 40 to 50 k upside down!

This thread has definitely highlighted the young mans gumption and, along with it, his shortcomings on paint and bodywork, his lack of experience, his lack of integrity and what a mess this thing really is.

So, who's going to buy this for anywhere close to 30k? :angry-smiley-038:


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