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315duramax 03-25-2014 12:32 PM

steering issue question
 
quick question here. First cig ive built, so might be a dumb question, on my cafe with TRS's the steering is VERY stiff... like both hands needing to turn.. on our 99 forumla the steering is almost like power steering.. when the boats on its fine, but when its not, you can hardly turn it.. i know its cable steering and was a salt water boat for some time... so can i get a new cable due to maybe the old one being siezed up? or take apart the gimbals and grease and clean up? i was thinking about doing external steering but figured i would try and get the steering as good as i can get it before deciding that or not. Ive met alot of local go fast guys that are helping me with the mechanics because making it looking good is my thing, but figured i would try the board.

if you have advice please post it! if you got bull****, tell your wife about it, not me!

88bullet 03-25-2014 12:58 PM

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check your gimbles. the power assist will over ride the seized up pins and could crack your rings. ive got wingplates for trs if you wanna go hydraulic. i also have a pr of spotless trs gimbles and transom plates if you wanna put some clean ones on the boat
[ATTACH=CONFIG]520950[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]520951[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]520953[/ATTACH]

[ATTACH=CONFIG]520947[/ATTACH]

315duramax 03-25-2014 01:09 PM

what specifically would i be checking and looking for? thanks

88bullet 03-25-2014 01:15 PM

your upper and lower pin. take your tie bar and steering off and more your drives side to side. also turn your wheel and see if it still binds. that will tell you what is bad

jbraun2828 03-25-2014 01:17 PM

Yes you can get a new cable. For cheap money you can get a kit with new helm and cable. Obviously hydraulic would be much much better

315duramax 03-25-2014 01:19 PM

great thanks guys!

BDiggity 03-25-2014 04:12 PM

My steering was impossible when not at speed. but once i installed the helm hydraulic kit, it was 1000x better & can turn it with a finger.

315duramax 03-25-2014 08:08 PM

i got looking at the boat... and i see is got power steering.. so tomorrow im gunna fire it up and run it and see if it gets any easier.. one more... now, it might have just been another long day, but i made my way to the helm, and was taking apart the throttles, and it seems like its witch craft to take them apart to unhook from the levers. need to repaint the dash obv but because at half throttle the carbs are WOT so i want to figure out why... i was thinking the wrong cables, but i looked at the cables and it doesnt seem like they were put in any later than everything else. anyone experience this ever?

Katanna 03-25-2014 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by 88bullet (Post 4095525)
check your gimbles. the power assist will over ride the seized up pins and could crack your rings. ive got wingplates for trs if you wanna go hydraulic. i also have a pr of spotless trs gimbles and transom plates if you wanna put some clean ones on the boat
[ATTACH=CONFIG]520950[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]520951[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]520953[/ATTACH]

[ATTACH=CONFIG]520947[/ATTACH]

How much for the Gimbles?

phragle 03-25-2014 08:52 PM

Dis connect the steering from the gimble. wiggle the drives, and then turn the wheel. Which ever end is tight there is your problem. Though I would still try it with the motor running first.

O.C.Barry 03-25-2014 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by 315duramax (Post 4095774)
i got looking at the boat... and i see is got power steering.. so tomorrow im gunna fire it up and run it and see if it gets any easier.. one more... now, it might have just been another long day, but i made my way to the helm, and was taking apart the throttles, and it seems like its witch craft to take them apart to unhook from the levers. need to repaint the dash obv but because at half throttle the carbs are WOT so i want to figure out why... i was thinking the wrong cables, but i looked at the cables and it doesnt seem like they were put in any later than everything else. anyone experience this ever?

Depending on the brand of your throttles, there are usually a number of adjustments by moving the pins and the cable holders. It's a little difficult to describe, but if you take the throttles apart, it's pretty intuitive.

88bullet 03-26-2014 06:49 AM

Like oc said. You have to change the fulcrum point to alter the travel distance for your cables

payuppsucker 03-26-2014 09:26 AM

If you have cable power steering it'll be nearly impossible to steer without the engine that has the pump running. Fire it up and check it out.

O.C.Barry 03-26-2014 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by 88bullet (Post 4095925)
Like oc said. You have to change the fulcrum point to alter the travel distance for your cables

You said it a lot more scientifically than I - good job! Obviously not your first rodeo with throttle assemblies! LOL

315duramax 03-27-2014 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by O.C.Barry (Post 4096146)
You said it a lot more scientifically than I - good job! Obviously not your first rodeo with throttle assemblies! LOL

yup. took the throttles apart. seems there is only one point of attachment. i know what your saying about different fulcrum points. cables are super tight i could hardly get enough slack to pull the throttles out of the hole. going to see what i can do with it tomorrow. thanks for the responses and help!


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