Go Back  Offshoreonly.com > Owners Forum > Cigarette
38 tg step or not >

38 tg step or not

Notices

38 tg step or not

Thread Tools
 
Old 07-10-2014 | 07:18 AM
  #31  
jmackin's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 1,144
Likes: 1
From: monroe
Default

Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL
Whoe!! a 5000EFI`s !? you must have meant 740mph.
500's sorry. Lol
jmackin is offline  
Reply
Old 07-10-2014 | 09:24 AM
  #32  
Sick Stinger's Avatar
Brotherhood #1
15 Year Member
Gold Member
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 12,026
Likes: 111
From: Swansea Mass
Default

Speed gains of a step but te handle and safe ride as a straight get a step apache, ask Jamie about it
Sick Stinger is offline  
Reply
Old 07-10-2014 | 09:33 AM
  #33  
Registered
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,873
Likes: 803
From: St. Pete Beach, FL
Default

Originally Posted by Sick Stinger
Speed gains of a step but te handle and safe ride as a straight get a step apache, ask Jamie about it
The chiefs appear to have less aggressive steps that were obviously added to the old straight mold. I don't think they're as fast as other step boats, but if they handle well it could be a good compromise. Note: I'm an arm chair QB.
hogie roll is offline  
Reply
Old 07-10-2014 | 11:13 AM
  #34  
Registered
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 8,527
Likes: 706
From: Taunton Ma
Default

Stripped Kevlar f2 boat runs over 90 with 560 hp. But back on topic, a t/s gun with a cabin to sleep in will be hard to find.
Unlimited jd is offline  
Reply
Old 07-10-2014 | 02:27 PM
  #35  
Registered
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 5,008
Likes: 752
From: Traverse City, Michigan
Default

Originally Posted by lil red
I think the trs boats actually do it a bit more. Just my opinion
I thought the TRS hulls had a better center of gravity and didn't porpoise and the Bravo hulls were more aft CG and did porpoise ?
ed
Interceptor is offline  
Reply
Old 07-10-2014 | 02:46 PM
  #36  
SS930's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 6,679
Likes: 3
From: At the office.
Default

Originally Posted by Interceptor
I thought the TRS hulls had a better center of gravity and didn't porpoise and the Bravo hulls were more aft CG and did porpoise ?
ed
The TRS drives/trans are definitely heavier than a bravo drive system. Even though the engines are moved forward slightly, I would think they are still heavier in the stern and more likely to porpoise. I've been in multiple TG's, with both drive systems... they both hop like a bucking bronco in smooth water (without tab), although the TRS boat's are probably slightly worse in this regard.
SS930 is offline  
Reply
Old 07-10-2014 | 03:22 PM
  #37  
thisistank's Avatar
Registered
Community Builder
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 14,640
Likes: 4,633
From: Channel Islands, So. Cal.
Default

Top guns (non TS) CG was designed for transmissions and motors forward. When everything went to bravo they didn't change the CG of the boat to accommodate. Bravo guns porpoise a bit more because of this. Although, like stated above, they all porpoise if not run properly. It is what it is. And an interesting fact the cabins in the TS guns were lightened up (changed from the awesome cabins of the 90's) to accommodate CG. they were too heavy in the bow with a full cabin thus, the cover girl was born.

Back on topic, in my experience (having driven and ridden in plenty of TS guns in big water and calm water alike and having owned a straight gun) there is no significant ride difference in big water between the straight bottom and TS guns. The TS is a better hull, period.

Last edited by thisistank; 07-10-2014 at 03:43 PM.
thisistank is online now  
Reply
Old 07-10-2014 | 08:33 PM
  #38  
Registered
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,090
Likes: 7
From: Ontario, Canada
Default

and how is this trait considered acceptable when arguing for cigarettes as the best boats?, seems to me that porpoising and cheating on interior to mask it never gets mentioned in the fountain versus cig conversation by cig owners
Originally Posted by SS930
The TRS drives/trans are definitely heavier than a bravo drive system. Even though the engines are moved forward slightly, I would think they are still heavier in the stern and more likely to porpoise. I've been in multiple TG's, with both drive systems... they both hop like a bucking bronco in smooth water (without tab), although the TRS boat's are probably slightly worse in this regard.
stimleck is offline  
Reply
Old 07-10-2014 | 08:52 PM
  #39  
cfischer's Avatar
never trade luck for skil
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 937
Likes: 0
From: San Diego, CA
Default

Rode in Blee's 3 weeks ago and man what a great boat! Been in primal instinct (straight bottom, 6s and 950s) and in rough water there is no cig that will run stronger other then staggered #6 cigs. Just my opinion.
cfischer is offline  
Reply
Old 07-10-2014 | 08:56 PM
  #40  
jbraun2828's Avatar
Gold Member
15 Year Member
Gold Member
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,471
Likes: 213
From: Grand Haven, MI
Default

Originally Posted by stimleck
and how is this trait considered acceptable when arguing for cigarettes as the best boats?, seems to me that porpoising and cheating on interior to mask it never gets mentioned in the fountain versus cig conversation by cig owners
They're not made for flat water
jbraun2828 is offline  
Reply


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.