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Old 10-23-2014 | 07:59 AM
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There have not been many Cigarettes with shaft/surface drives. Do a search on the Zero Cavity Cigarette, as Doc went to Pulse Drives briefly, and then ripped the whole transom apart to go back to SSM. I think you would be wasting your money. If you want to make your boat "legendary", step up to VI drives. There have only been a handful of straight bottom guns with VI drives, and they all seem to have a following and list of buyers when they come up for sale.
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Old 10-23-2014 | 08:28 AM
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I know a few that have been sitting on some fresh #5`s for a long time @ $15 and 18K
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Old 10-23-2014 | 08:47 AM
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arent your drives big shaft 4's like i had for sale and not 5's??
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Old 10-23-2014 | 08:57 AM
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There have not been many Cigarettes with shaft/surface drives. Do a search on the Zero Cavity Cigarette, as Doc went to Pulse Drives briefly, and then ripped the whole transom apart to go back to SSM. I think you would be wasting your money. If you want to make your boat "legendary", step up to VI drives. There have only been a handful of straight bottom guns with VI drives, and they all seem to have a following and list of buyers when they come up for sale.
True Brian, mine sold in within four days of being listed. Old School is still running in Michigan.
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Old 10-23-2014 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Sydwayz
There have not been many Cigarettes with shaft/surface drives. Do a search on the Zero Cavity Cigarette, as Doc went to Pulse Drives briefly, and then ripped the whole transom apart to go back to SSM. I think you would be wasting your money. If you want to make your boat "legendary", step up to VI drives. There have only been a handful of straight bottom guns with VI drives, and they all seem to have a following and list of buyers when they come up for sale.
Please don't lump all Surface Drives in what those POS drives that Zero Cavity went as there is no relevance between those and other Surface Drives. I've got no less than about 13 of the older 38' Top Guns with Arnesons on them and the results speak for themselves. Excellence, better docking, better speed, better handling and lower maintenance than an I/O.

As for would I put KAAMA's on this boat.. No. Just b/c something is cheap doesn't mean it's good.
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Old 10-23-2014 | 01:45 PM
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arent your drives big shaft 4's like i had for sale and not 5's??
I was told they were big shaft 4s, but I was told they had 12 hours too.... Turns out they had 3 of 4 bad gear sets and when collabella had them he noticed they were 5s with the larger pins.

Common consensus is the Kammas are junk. I'll just let well enough alone
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Old 10-23-2014 | 06:08 PM
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Doesn't arnesons have conversion to swap and use your gembles?
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Old 10-23-2014 | 07:52 PM
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Doesn't arnesons have conversion to swap and use your gembles?
No, we do not need to use any of the I/O's components in the conversion. Remove and sell it all...
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Old 10-23-2014 | 08:34 PM
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This is what I did
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Old 10-23-2014 | 09:06 PM
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you have a great boat now, use it and enjoy it for what it's worth. you have a nice motor and drive package that will make it worth more than others when the time comes, don't bury yourself in it unless you plan to keep it and if that is the case then do what you like with it. it will always be worth decent money, it's a cigarette top gun! 12-15k on the drive package imo, that is what the buyers are paying for the nice stuff
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