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Full Force 05-27-2015 09:23 PM

This weekend wife goes to New York... Hmmm lol

Cole2534 05-28-2015 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 4308343)
Yes.. .012-.015 and I thought tight, Johnson lifters told me .008-.015 is sweet spot ... So I didn't mess with it, lifters are free moving I pulled a couple valves seem like not much clearance there, but the shop has to measure...


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 4308365)
It's coming out and apart from what I am reading afr heads cone with .012-.016 guide clearance... Not enough for marine endurance, I am not a happy camper I would have addressed that if I was told!! I was told bolt on ready....

you missin a zero in those clearances?

mmb 05-28-2015 06:43 AM

Dart rebuilt my "marine" version heads and they were miles to tight. Joe @ Fast Foward had to hone all the guides, I believe he set them at .002". You can call him to verify...

Full Force 05-28-2015 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by Cole2534 (Post 4309663)
you missin a zero in those clearances?

Yes .. Pardon my typing when I am on phone..

Full Force 05-28-2015 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by mmb (Post 4309666)
Dart rebuilt my "marine" version heads and they were miles to tight. Joe @ Fast Foward had to hone all the guides, I believe he set them at .002". You can call him to verify...

My machinist will not let marine heads out less then .0020.... That's how it should be...

frickstyle 05-28-2015 07:05 AM

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You're making me nervous Timbo......

I dropped the hatch off for the neverending story last night @ XT. Hoping these puppies stay together a wee bit longer than yours. Got to see Dave S (infamous Glassdave here) too! It's been awhile, attack that hatch please!
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Coincidentally also saw a 38 Flatdeck being hauled south on 71 by an awesome white Dodge Ram w/ 22.5s, anyone? Drove right past him. Boat looked to be original.

Full Force 05-28-2015 07:11 AM

You will be ok justin, your heads were ordered bare and set up by Dean/Tom.... Lesson learned

mmb 05-28-2015 07:28 AM

im surprised your shop didnt want them to check all the guides.... Especially if he sets them at .002" because all brand new heads are set up miles tighter than .002".....

Full Force 05-28-2015 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by mmb (Post 4309681)
im surprised your shop didnt want them to check all the guides.... Especially if he sets them at .002" because all brand new heads are set up miles tighter than .002".....

My ship didn't build engines, he told me never use out of the box heads, I INSISTED. I was ok because someone INSISTED my afr heads were set up to someone's specs custom order, I trusted that someone and against my machinists advice I bolted them on, I was sold marine ready heads, afr must have had a bad day I guess because mine are HALF marine ready if you get what I am saying....

mmb 05-28-2015 08:14 AM

Dart and AFR will not hone the guides. They press the new guides in and assemble, wherever they end up is what you get. You always, always have to check the clearance. I tried to tell Joe at Fast Forward the same thing your saying "I have marine heads built by Dart... etc.."

Joe told me I was on crack and bring the heads to his shop because the guides needed to be opened up. Sure enough he had to hone every guide because they were way to tight..... His exact words were we more than likely would have had a problem a few of them were very tight.


You need to check all the clearances in your engine before you assemble it. Your machine shop should have been wise enough to steer you clear of that problem also.....


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