Is this a Cigarette 28SS? New owner.
 

Hello,

I recently purchased this boat. I was told this is a 28SS. I have no idea what year it is as I have to apply for a title. It appears to have twin 360 engines and TRS drives. Can someone tell me if this is a true Cigarette SS and if so, what year? The engines do run and the interior needs some love. I love the lines of the boat and would love to know what it is.

Thanks,
Tiffany

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the hull bottom may be a splash but the rest don't look like any 28SS I've ever seen....

I've looked at other 28SS and they look similar. I've also looked at Cigarette Awesome/Mistress and they look similar. If it's not a 28SS, I wonder what it is. It has Cigarette Racing Team all over the boat.

Freeboard looks a little to tall to me to be a 28. Vin does not lie. Rear, right side, maybe 4" below rub rail - should start with CRT.

What's a freeboard? Also, it says Chrysler Marine on the transom assembly.

I don't think the vin is going to help any. Looks like someone sanded the original hull vin and stamped a metal plate. The metal plate numbers have this: Cenh14482. According to online you have to have 12 digits.
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Looks like Volvo drives

Definately NOT a Cigarette 28 SS.

I agree with Fast Shafts - Sorry no Cigarette.

Agree, no Ciggie. At first I thought it might be a Signature but Im not 100% sure. You can do a search on the hull Id

Its hard to read but if the hull id starts with "cfn" the boat was made by "custom fiberglass boats" in farmington NH

The Coasties keep all that stuff on record

yea for sure not a Cig, besides the 28 has a lip all around about 2" under rub rail that NO OTHER boat has.... looks like a home made boat to me...

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The tell tale lip on the bond line of a 28 does not exist on this boat. Add in the fact that it doesn't have the spine on the bow either and it's done deal....not a Cig.

That helm doesn't resemble the helm of any 28 I've seen either.

Buck

If I had a nickel for every boat I saw with a Cigarette sticker on it that actually wasn't one, you know the rest of the line.

I have never been able to figure out why people do it. I've never seen a Cig with a Baja, Formula, Fountain, Sonic, or any other logo on it. Why put a Cig logo on one of them?

Buck

Looks like it needs more than an interior and hope this is not what you think is all it needs.

Don't put any more $$$$ into it until you really go thru it and get a professional opinion on it if you plan to do something with it.

Assuming :

1) You are not playing a newbie joke on us

2) You are not a boat restorer

Hull ID is shaved off and a metal plate with stamped numbers are over it as mentioned above. The stamp numbers do not come up with anything. According to online you have to have 12 digits on a boat hull. These are the numbers stamped: Cenh14482

Um, I bought this boat a week ago. I'm going to apply for a title, but need to know what it is before doing so. Why would this be a joke? Secondly, I'm not new to the boat world. However, this is the first boat that has me stunned. I know it needs more than interior work, I'm not a dumbass. Considering I only paid $1200 for the boat and trailer, the trailer alone is worth that. Thanks for everyone clarifying it's not a Cig. I guess I'll keep searching other makes.

You didn't pay a lot but didn't the seller give you some idea?
I'm a bit new here but I reckon it looks like a Magnum. Whatever it is, pretty classic lines, hope the project works out for you, good luck.

RR

Hate to be a Debbie-downer, BUT.......The money you are going to spend to get this boat in order is going to WAY exceed its value when completed. Youd be better off buying a name brand boat for 20K and at least getting some return on your investment. With the boat having no legit numbers and no legit maker(yet), its going to be a hard sell. I know that boats are NOT investments, but unless your building it for "yourself" and you don't care about money??..... Also, it has Dodge engines in it??

I totally agree unfortunately, the boat does have some cool lines to it but judging by the looks of it I'd bet money that the transom and stringers are rotted so you're looking at serious time and money to bring it back. When it's all said and done with new structure, paint, interior, gauges, engines, outdrives, etc it's still going to be a no-name boat unless you can determine it's some rare ex-race boat or something. I'd recommend parting it out but either way good luck with whichever direction you go. You may want to try searching on here, this boat looks familiar and I think I remember a post about it from a few years ago when it was for sale.....that TV looks familiar!

CEN = Carr Enterprises, 4780 96TH ST N, St Petersburg FL 33708 Date business started was 1/15/1979

Cheers,

Dave

Definately not a 28 Cig. Was this boat sitting in a yard next to the Stansteel asphalt tank and kiln yard?

Hey if it runs then RUN IT!!!

RIGHT! That's what in sayin. Dude bought a boat for 1200 that runs. That's way less than what my fuel bill will be for the month of July. Sand it down, paint it in his garage. Clean up the interior and fukc it run it. If it blows up or sinks, sell the trailer and wash your hands lol

yea, thats gonna cost a ton to make nice, even doing it yourself.... I had a ton invested in my 320 Baja doing it all myself, way more then I should have.... and it's now in a landfill...

And you didn't learn, you went out and bought an even bigger resin bucket to pour your money into... We have a disease, a sickness. Hi, Im phragle, Im a powerboataholic...

Lol well only kinda... This one is not rotted from now to stern, and is a much better boat overall, most if the mkney I sink in this one can be removed and kept....!!!

My thoughts exactly. You don't need a title to register the boat in the state of Indiana. I would like to apply for the title though. I'm going to restore the boat. If I knew what the boat was, I would restore it back to new. Since I do not know what it is, I'm going to take all the stickers and logos off and have the boat clean with no badging.

If you honestly believe this boat is home-made you are an amateur in the boat community.

I purchased the boat from a local marina in Louisville, KY. The owner of the boat had worked done to the engines and had the boat stored at the marina outside. He stopped making storage payments two years ago and is nowhere to be found. I paid $1200 for the boat and trailer. That’s the amount that was owed in storage fees.

I work for a marina that I’m in the process of purchasing as well as good friends with the owners of local marinas. I have a dealer license and get parts for one third of the cost. I also get free boats all the time that nobody wants anymore. I’ve salvaged many usable parts over the years. One of my buddies who owns a marina does only gel coat and fiberglass repair. Getting this boat re-sprayed is not an issue.

Chrysler’s marine engines have been around since 1927. I believe the 360 came out in 1974. If you’re thinking these are a pair of 360 Magnums either out of a Dodge Ram or Durango you are mistaken. The casting numbers are 4179930-360-6 and the other 4179930-360-5. These are LA 360 engines. Production was 1975 to 1993.


There is nothing wrong with the Chrysler transom assembly nor the stringers. The hull is solid, just needs re-sprayed. The engines are sound with great compression. There is nothing wrong with the drives either. Boat looks the way it does because it's been outside for several years with the sun hitting it. Boat was made from Carr Enterprises.

You can clearly see other boats in the background of the images.
The first images I posted is the day I purchased the boat. I picked up the boat at one marina and drove it to another marina, and took it off the trailer. The photo you are referring to, is how it is sitting now. I’m having the trailer painted and the boat needed to come off of it. It’s next to a huge warehouse where I work.

Thank you Dave. That’s what I’ve found out too. Unfortunately, they’re no longer in business or I would contact them.

You came into a Cigarette Forum with a fake Cigarette and now you are telling people how much or how little they know about boats... Sorry not sure what you were expecting. I would do you build thread in another section of OSO. Your not going to get much love in here especially after those comments...

http://www.mycarrenterprise.com/

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I'm calling BS on this whole thing. ie: You and the boat.

You call someone out on knowledge but you say your boat has TRS drives.

Hummmmmmmmmm.

Here's the back of your supposed boat that supposedly just needs a repaint and interior. Might want to look at these drives again while your looking at these pics that show it needs a little more than a fluff and buff.

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That came out small.

Much larger pics found here:

http://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-...ml#post7712873

Phragle, could this possibly be your buddy Darr posting this stuff ?

Thank you Dear

I'm a 29 year old woman. I don't claim to know everything. I've never worked on or owned a boat like this, so forgive me that I'm not an expert like you. People that come in to the marina were saying they appeared to be TRS drives. However, I see Chrysler Marine stamped on the transom assembly and they're Chrysler engines. I registered to this forum as well as others to see if someone knew what kind of boat this was. Some of the comments that were posted are rude. The fact I am a young woman, I have to stand up for myself as people like yourself have this male ego issue and like to belittle women. Now, I may not know a real Cigarette from a clone, so forgive me for registering to this site to ask. There's other forums like you posted above that have been very helpful and are not rude. I'll leave this forum and take myself over there where I know I'll get some better respect.

For those who actually took the time to respond with useful information, thank you. It's much appreciated.

Good day,
Tiffany

It is odd, a lot of knowledge and very little knowledge at the same time.. If she is ligit, she has bigger balls than I, taking on that project.

Uummm.........if she is legit, I hope she has no balls at all. If she does, she is a he. I only mention this since this thread is about something, that is actually something else.:bananalove:

To Tiffany, go get em!

So Tiff should name the boat "walk on the wild side"?

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Anyone notice , easier to see in the larger pics in link I provided earlier, that the engine cover and deck have been raised with plexiglass and what looks to be channel iron ?

Very strange / different to say the least.