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Beginner Cigarette Questions
Hi All. I'm just about ready to pull the trigger on a '99 Top Gun and had some basic questions. This is my 4th boat, been boating for 20 years so consider myself somewhat knowledgeable, but admit this is my first Cigarette (mostly Baja before). Please forgive my ignorance here...
1) It has two 110 gallon fuel tanks and two gas gauges, but I see no transfer switch. Is there a switch somewhere I'm missing or is the flow between the two tanks constant? 2) Where is everyone mounting an amplifier? This has the full cabin, and I see absolutely no place where it would be both out of sight but still get airflow. 3) What is the chrome thing by the passenger side seat (they all seem to have it)? I did not have a chance to take a closer look at it. 4) Where are the freshwater and wastewater holding tanks? What about the pump for the freshwater? I think that is all for now. Boat is not being advertised on OSO, but has passed a marine survey with flying colors and mechanical (compression/leakdown) so hopefully just a matter of time. thanks! Lou |
Amplifier in the closet on the left in the cabin, no transfer pump, but they have ball valves under the access plates in the bilge
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Originally Posted by louisa6
(Post 4533347)
Hi All. I'm just about ready to pull the trigger on a '99 Top Gun and had some basic questions. This is my 4th boat, been boating for 20 years so consider myself somewhat knowledgeable, but admit this is my first Cigarette (mostly Baja before). Please forgive my ignorance here...
1) It has two 110 gallon fuel tanks and two gas gauges, but I see no transfer switch. Is there a switch somewhere I'm missing or is the flow between the two tanks constant? 2) Where is everyone mounting an amplifier? This has the full cabin, and I see absolutely no place where it would be both out of sight but still get airflow. 3) What is the chrome thing by the passenger side seat (they all seem to have it)? I did not have a chance to take a closer look at it. 4) Where are the freshwater and wastewater holding tanks? What about the pump for the freshwater? I think that is all for now. Boat is not being advertised on OSO, but has passed a marine survey with flying colors and mechanical (compression/leakdown) so hopefully just a matter of time. thanks! Lou 2) as stated, in the small closet opposite of the head. I mounted 5 (one on the ceiling of the closet and still put fenders in there and never had them over heat). 3) fresh water flush for the cockpit. Stupid and I don't think anyone's ever used one in their cigarette...EVER. 4) don't know exactly where the tanks are, I want to say in front of the fuel cells. I believe the pumps are under the helm if memory serves me right. Or maybe in the head under the toilet. I don't remember - never used the head or fresh water. Lol 5) congrats!! Let's see some pics! |
Originally Posted by thisistank
(Post 4533373)
1)They drain equally. But note, the gauges will drop slower when full and then FAST under 1/4 tank because the cells are V'd.
2) as stated, in the small closet opposite of the head. I mounted 5 (one on the ceiling of the closet and still put fenders in there and never had them over heat). 3) fresh water flush for the cockpit. Stupid and I don't think anyone's ever used one in their cigarette...EVER. 4) don't know exactly where the tanks are, I want to say in front of the fuel cells. I believe the pumps are under the helm if memory serves me right. Or maybe in the head under the toilet. I don't remember - never used the head or fresh water. Lol 5) congrats!! Let's see some pics! I took out my toilet and holding tank and covered the hole with a custom cut plastic. I don't recommend using the toilet. Sticks really bad if you live in an area where it gets100 degrees. TEXAS. Bring a bucket for the girls or buy a portable toilet. |
1- As Tank said- you get to 1/4 tank you Better find Fuel
4- Its called a Poop deck on the back of the boat for a reason- Head is for in the Bed |
Thanks everyone! Agree - I have never used the head on any previous boat, but just curious. Plus I boat LOTO and if the water is too cold, well chances are their is a bar/restaurant less than 1/2 mile away... The boat is a '99 Lip Ship, apparently owned by Phil himself for a while and then sold to a guy from Michigan in '07 timeframe where it was mostly stored. It will likely be the slowest Cigarette on LOTO with stock 502 MPI's, but was looking more for quality ride versus speed for my wife, 7 year old and 4 year old. I'm used to the old 29 Outlaw I just sold, so I'll be the guy taking forever to park at the docks. This is not the last of my questions - will likely have many more once I take delivery. Thanks again! Will post a pic once I figure out how.
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Congrats! See you on LOTO. You'll like the boat. My wife and I really enjoyed our 1995.
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Congrats! Sounds like you went with the one that has the notched strikes. That's a real sharp boat. You should be very excited
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Yep - it's the one with the notched strakes. And yes, very excited!
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That boat looked beautiful in the ad photos, congrats!
As you said, you may not be the fastest Cig out there but you'll be there every day because stock 502's will never let you down. Good choice IMO. RR |
Originally Posted by rak rua
(Post 4533473)
That boat looked beautiful in the ad photos, congrats!
As you said, you may not be the fastest Cig out there but you'll be there every day because stock 502's will never let you down. Good choice IMO. RR |
Im guessing low to mid 60's
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We went from a 29 Outlaw to our T/S- Not much of a learning curve. Especially with the straight bottom. And a Little longer deck to look over lol
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Originally Posted by Biff
(Post 4533501)
How fast is that boat with 502's?
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That's what I'm told - 65 and owner says he has seen a few mph higher with no load and light chop. We'll see, but honestly really looking for reliability and smoother ride. Telling the wife/kids we can't go on the water today because the boat wouldn't start would not go over well. I had the Outlaw for as long as I did because it never left me stranded, and over 9 summers never gave me a problem I could not fix in 30 minutes. People rag on Baja, but that 29 was a great boat. Thanks everyone for all of the advice and kind words!
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Originally Posted by J-Bonz
(Post 4533455)
Congrats! Sounds like you went with the one that has the notched strikes. That's a real sharp boat. You should be very excited ��
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After you get the amps mounted, remove the cockpit shower (no one ever uses) and have someone glass it in. Then cut a hole for a 10" sub woofer. You will need a 1-2" spacer.
Post some pice!!! |
Originally Posted by louisa6
(Post 4533625)
That's what I'm told - 65 and owner says he has seen a few mph higher with no load and light chop. We'll see, but honestly really looking for reliability and smoother ride. Telling the wife/kids we can't go on the water today because the boat wouldn't start would not go over well. I had the Outlaw for as long as I did because it never left me stranded, and over 9 summers never gave me a problem I could not fix in 30 minutes. People rag on Baja, but that 29 was a great boat. Thanks everyone for all of the advice and kind words!
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Originally Posted by louisa6
(Post 4533448)
It will likely be the slowest Cigarette on LOTO with stock 502 MPI's, but was looking more for quality ride versus speed for my wife, 7 year old and 4 year old. .
Congratulations |
Originally Posted by thisistank
(Post 4533690)
You'd probably be very surprised how many Cigarette owners came from a Baja (me included). Great boats, probably the most underappreciated boat in the performance market.
Congrats, it looks to be a very clean boat! :ernaehrung004: |
Unfortunately I can't post pics, but if you go to Boattrader.com and search on 1999 Cigarette in Michigan you'll see it. Ad says single step hull, but obviously that's wrong. The strakes have been modified so that there are 2 sections of the strakes taken out (not cut out - looks like it was molded that way). Not sure of any speed increase from this (if any) but from my research looks like an experiment that Phil (lip-ship) was doing at the time.
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Originally Posted by louisa6
(Post 4533726)
Unfortunately I can't post pics, but if you go to Boattrader.com and search on 1999 Cigarette in Michigan you'll see it. Ad says single step hull, but obviously that's wrong. The strakes have been modified so that there are 2 sections of the strakes taken out (not cut out - looks like it was molded that way). Not sure of any speed increase from this (if any) but from my research looks like an experiment that Phil (lip-ship) was doing at the time.
Enjoy! RR [ATTACH=CONFIG]565194[/ATTACH] |
Congrats Bud, a cool looking boat with those funky chines. Now you own a piece of history, makes you notorious Dude!
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Originally Posted by rak rua
(Post 4533757)
That boat came up on a previous thread and thisistank said pretty much that (if my memory is correct)........ Bit of an experiment at Lipship that didn't make any difference.
Enjoy! RR [ATTACH=CONFIG]565194[/ATTACH] |
good luck nice boat when you hit 1/4 tank on fuel run to a gas station fast.
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Originally Posted by trannyjoe
(Post 4533873)
good luck nice boat when you hit 1/4 tank on fuel run to a gas station fast.
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Originally Posted by thisistank
(Post 4533831)
Yes, exactly. No better, no worse.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/c...-vs-ts-tg.html |
Originally Posted by J-Bonz
(Post 4534047)
See post #5. Always like going back and reading that thread for a refresher.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/c...-vs-ts-tg.html Great old thread. I used to get into it with Rob about "the first twin step". Miami Two Step was the first actual TS (built for Chet Huffman and currently on the market from the second owner) but it was from the old molds. Robs "Rice Hauler" was the first TS from the new molds that was actually a true TS, not modified mold. This boat that Luisa6 bought, was a project Phil messed with before steps were brought on. He was playing with the idea of steps and aerating the hull but it didn't do anything to step the strakes. I talked to him about it when it came up a long time ago. That boat is part of the evolutionary process into steps. |
I remember first time seeing Chet's boat was on a lip ship extravaganza video Rob let us barrow. It was amazing seeing the speed out of that boat compared to all the straight bottom guns! I did get to crawl in it when it was for sale at Typhoon in Tom's River, NJ back in 06.
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Originally Posted by J-Bonz
(Post 4538174)
I remember first time seeing Chet's boat was on a lip ship extravaganza video Rob let us barrow. It was amazing seeing the speed out of that boat compared to all the straight bottom guns! I did get to crawl in it when it was for sale at Typhoon in Tom's River, NJ back in 06.
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It is a sweet boat! I dont remember the engine specifics but I was amazed how Rob's boat ran with the Zuls. That thing hauled the mail!
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Originally Posted by J-Bonz
(Post 4538182)
It is a sweet boat! I dont remember the engine specifics but I was amazed how Rob's boat ran with the Zuls. That thing hauled the mail!
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Originally Posted by thisistank
(Post 4538186)
Richie builds a bad azz, tough as nails motor. Plus, they always look like candy you can eat :D
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