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Full Force 01-19-2019 06:17 AM

Top Gun Winter updates and fixes 2019
 
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Decided to leave the power that came with gun in the boat, many good parts there, supposed to be low hour done in 1999, Had a issue back in July that broke a valve and went through a piston, due to sloppy guide slowed valve to beat itselfntill it broke.. fixed that and keep doubting till mid October, no other issues besides have some milkshake in oil I could not shake...
kept looking for that issue the rest of the season with lots of oil changes lol

so so I knew heads needed done and yanked them... what I found was disturbing and again makes me not trust others...

heads on starboard had dual springs and 2.30 intake valences
heads on port had single springs with 2.25 intake calves
canes are flat tappet starboard heads springs were 130/360 and port tested at 100/280!! The port heads with weak springs wore springs into head casting, beat the hell out of the seats, floating bad... as expected with Toyota spring pressures. popped a head gasket on starboard engine that led to some water in oil, some lobes on cam, so replacing that too and more... fun times!!!

Mismatched retainers, sloppy guides, one set of heads had cleaned up chambers the other did not...

so so we are redoing the merlin 345 grumpys and going to clean up throt and chambers some thinking a easy 30 cfm gain while in there, plan down the road is to get new heads and go solid rollers, can’t do that now $$ wise so fixing what I got, boat went 73 with issues maybe I will see 74! I honestly don’t care much about the number I am more concerned with turn key, the mistress hurt me bad for speed wants, this boats fun in the 70’s and going every weekend is the goal.

Fix water tank that spring a leak over summer, a little more stereo and some cleaning is all I plan for, I love this old bucket it’s a great boat!!

BBYSTWY 01-19-2019 06:32 AM

That's why every time I see a boat for sale with blue power and the add says "top ends freshened x hours ago" I cringe lol...never know what dork was in there messing with stuff and what led to the "top end refresh" were both done? did it drop a valve? is the other a time bomb? uggghhhh sucks man never know what you're getting sometimes....just shows to some peoples integrity....Good luck!! still jealous you have a gun lol

Stewart

Full Force 01-19-2019 06:37 AM

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Was nice to see my liner tabbed into hull, a few friends with guns have a huge shake in cabin when running due to liner not tabbed, mine being a super early build does not have the liner extended into closet which is nice I didn’t have to destroy half my boat to get the water tank out for repair, need to weld a seam that split on that.

Full Force 01-19-2019 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by BBYSTWY (Post 4668707)
That's why every time I see a boat for sale with blue power and the add says "top ends freshened x hours ago" I cringe lol...never know what dork was in there messing with stuff and what led to the "top end refresh" were both done? did it drop a valve? is the other a time bomb? uggghhhh sucks man never know what you're getting sometimes....just shows to some peoples integrity....Good luck!! still jealous you have a gun lol

Stewart

Yea it's more annoying then anything, I have been through much worse, I wrestled with putting mistress engines in this boat and now kinda wish I did as they made great power and ran flawless 4 seasons now, that being said these have nice parts besides heads and cams (just old school) I also think if I sold these and someone had issues.... well you know what happens then... I will fix em up and keep boating a while...

BBYSTWY 01-19-2019 07:02 AM

Yea for sure...at least you know what you'll have now and have piece of mind knowing there's not junk in there ya know

ICDEDPPL 01-27-2019 08:01 PM

Good luck , make those engine great again!!!!

Full Force 01-28-2019 04:43 PM

LOL yes!

Full Force 02-05-2019 08:39 AM

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Working with the dinosaur heads a little...

Full Force 02-05-2019 08:40 AM


Full Force 03-29-2019 04:08 PM

Flowed heads the other day....

gained 37 CFM intake and 46 exhaust at .700 lift... not bad for a partial port

hogie roll 03-30-2019 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 4679391)
Flowed heads the other day....

gained 37 CFM intake and 46 exhaust at .700 lift... not bad for a partial port

Whats the total?

Full Force 03-30-2019 09:14 AM

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Thinking of working them more later to get full potential when I do solid roller conversion and lower end builds few years from now, we think we can get some nice numbers out of heads I already own.. this was just a cleanup and didn’t cost much at all to do.

frickstyle 03-30-2019 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 4679391)
Flowed heads the other day....

gained 37 CFM intake and 46 exhaust at .700 lift... not bad for a partial port

Dude, you're gonna go like a bazillion miles an hour now! I'm gonna start plumbing for nitrous so I can keep up with you!

J-Bonz 03-30-2019 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by frickstyle (Post 4679508)
Dude, you're gonna go like a bazillion miles an hour now! I'm gonna start plumbing for nitrous so I can keep up with you!

LOL.... Tim, you finally back working on the boat?

Full Force 03-30-2019 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by frickstyle (Post 4679508)
Dude, you're gonna go like a bazillion miles an hour now! I'm gonna start plumbing for nitrous so I can keep up with you!

HAHAHAHAH yes!!!!

Full Force 03-30-2019 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by J-Bonz (Post 4679515)

LOL.... Tim, you finally back working on the boat?

yes, been so busy dealing with rental to sell and other stuff, becoming a grand dad in Aug, so lots happening here... got a lot done on boat today.... finish heads next week and start making progress...

hogie roll 03-30-2019 06:48 PM


J-Bonz 03-30-2019 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 4679521)
yes, been so busy dealing with rental to sell and other stuff, becoming a grand dad in Aug, so lots happening here... got a lot done on boat today.... finish heads next week and start making progress...

Grand dad???? Arnt we like the same age? I am just had another tird and your already on the next gen.... LOL. Congrats to the wifey and you...

Jr.

Full Force 03-31-2019 06:17 AM


Originally Posted by hogie roll (Post 4679523)

Those yours?

Full Force 03-31-2019 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by J-Bonz (Post 4679525)
Grand dad???? Arnt we like the same age? I am just had another tird and your already on the next gen.... LOL. Congrats to the wifey and you...

Jr.

yea.... getting old lol She and her husband are ready to start their family.... so now I am old...

J-Bonz 03-31-2019 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 4679571)
yea.... getting old lol She and her husband are ready to start their family.... so now I am an old FART...

Fixed it for you....

hogie roll 03-31-2019 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 4679569)
Those yours?

just posted to give you an idea what you could get out of them

Full Force 04-01-2019 05:09 AM


Originally Posted by hogie roll (Post 4679621)

just posted to give you an idea what you could get out of them

oh, yea there is much more there, but I didn't want to do that at this point, not sure my future plans yet, just a quick cleanup for now..

Full Force 04-29-2019 05:22 AM


hogie roll 04-29-2019 01:42 PM

What did you do for cam?

Full Force 04-29-2019 03:13 PM

Same forniwthis was just quick freshening of heads


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