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offshoredrillin 04-26-2020 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by FiveTwelve (Post 4735519)
I came across a "Cigarette Owner's Rendezvous" hosted by the Performance Boat Center on LOTO in June. Has anyone here gone to this event? Is it an event where I could learn more about Cigarettes?

I passed on the Canadian TG. Too many unknowns. Thanks for keeping your eyes open for Cigarettes I might be interested in. I looked at that TG that was used in the movie but skipped it because it said "one engine needs work". Had I known the history of that boat (as y'all did) I might have not skipped it. Oh well, hind sight.

I know where the cleanest 42 Tiger is that can be had for the right price.;) nothing to do other than turn key and be a badass lol

1Zoom 04-26-2020 08:08 AM

Dustin had a decent 88 Bullet in OK. Needed some updating but was a great start. Give him as call.https://storage.bhs.cloud.ovh.net/v1...ddc59dd9b5.jpg

FiveTwelve 04-27-2020 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 1Zoom (Post 4735614)
Dustin had a decent 88 Bullet in OK. Needed some updating but was a great start. Give him as call.Attachment 576694

That one is sold, but he has another that he is going to send me info on. Thanks.

wayne272 04-28-2020 05:34 PM

I have a 88 Bullet with 454mags w/weiand 177's dynoed at 575hp turning B1-26's @5100, full imco hydraulic steering, triple axle trailer looking to get $40k. PM me if interested.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...076a2c32b5.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...82a3b52bd9.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...4d505cf0d5.jpg

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...365d08119d.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...987b79d6c6.jpg

thisistank 04-28-2020 08:46 PM

That is a clean bullet!

Nykamp 04-29-2020 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by wayne272 (Post 4736118)
I have a 88 Bullet with 454mags w/weiand 177's dynoed at 575hp turning B1-26's @5100, full imco hydraulic steering, triple axle trailer looking to get $40k. PM me if interested.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...076a2c32b5.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...82a3b52bd9.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...4d505cf0d5.jpg

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...365d08119d.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...987b79d6c6.jpg

Very nice Bullet!!

thisistank 04-29-2020 11:56 AM

Doug you should really look into that Bullet. Seems very well priced and turn key. Like I said before, perfect size for Nacimiento and the cabin on the bullet is very user friendly. Only problem I can see with that boat is it will take 91 with those motors and they don’t sell 91 on the water so you’d have to go over to oak hill gas station. Not a deal breaker at all, just something to consider.

tank

cigrocket 04-29-2020 12:09 PM

Not to hijack thread but this seems like a good deal. I don't know the boat or owner. But that is a screaming deal if it all checks out. I assume no trailer but still. Put Whipples on that and it runs 100. Biggus has one that runs 103-104.

https://www.offshoreonly.com/classif...ll-o77740.html

jbraun2828 04-29-2020 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by cigrocket (Post 4736315)
Not to hijack thread but this seems like a good deal. I don't know the boat or owner. But that is a screaming deal if it all checks out. I assume no trailer but still. Put Whipples on that and it runs 100. Biggus has one that runs 103-104.

https://www.offshoreonly.com/classif...ll-o77740.html

you’re right, that’s a crazy good deal

F-2 Speedy 04-29-2020 12:41 PM

Its said trip axle trailer included...........where's the lowers....

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...ef286dae7f.jpg

Knot 4 Me 04-29-2020 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by wayne272 (Post 4736118)
I have a 88 Bullet with 454mags w/weiand 177's dynoed at 575hp turning B1-26's @5100, full imco hydraulic steering, triple axle trailer looking to get $40k. PM me if interested.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...076a2c32b5.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...82a3b52bd9.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...4d505cf0d5.jpg

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...365d08119d.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...987b79d6c6.jpg

Where was this a year ago?!

thisistank 04-29-2020 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by cigrocket (Post 4736315)
Not to hijack thread but this seems like a good deal. I don't know the boat or owner. But that is a screaming deal if it all checks out. I assume no trailer but still. Put Whipples on that and it runs 100. Biggus has one that runs 103-104.

https://www.offshoreonly.com/classif...ll-o77740.html

60k for that boat is a steal!! Figure 70k with a new trailer, still killer price.

thisistank 04-29-2020 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4736321)
Its said trip axle trailer included...........where's the lowers....

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...ef286dae7f.jpg

cig rocket is talking about the TS 30 for 60k

and that pic is funky but the full drives are there. You have to zoom in to see that the drives are up but I did a double take when you pinged that out. It does look like theirs on boxes or something and no lowers. Lol

wayne272 04-29-2020 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4736321)
Its said trip axle trailer included...........where's the lowers....

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...ef286dae7f.jpg

They are on there, just no props. Bravo ones.

J-Bonz 04-29-2020 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 4736351)
60k for that boat is a steal!!

Hmmm, Sounds like yours could be up for sale... :)

thisistank 04-29-2020 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by J-Bonz (Post 4736378)
Hmmm, Sounds like yours could be up for sale... :)

hahah. Nah. First ours isn’t finished. Second, you know we love a full (real) cabin. Third, the 5 extra feet is nice in the ocean ;)

but that still seems like a great deal on a very nice boat.

Full Force 04-29-2020 06:51 PM

I’m 100% with Frickstyle, as far as cost you can find a really decent cafe under 40,000 if you look enough.... top guns under 50,000 are not common and do pop up but need work,all will need work for sure just a matter of how much and your goals, my top gun was very cheap and nearly untouched, but I have already done many things to make it nicer and did aliens some coin too.

mistress is great also if you don’t need a big cabin, flat decks are also great but they are heavy so find one with SSM drives, personally if you wanna be over 500 hp get a SSM boat.

FiveTwelve 05-06-2020 12:51 AM

So, My wife, daughter, and I are coming to the Cigarette Rendezvous in June. I'm going to hold off purchasing a Cigarette until after the event. Hopefully, I'll learn more about the models, drives, engines, and shortfalls of each to make a better informed decision on my Cigarette purchase. See y'all there! And thanks for your help.

FiveTwelve 05-06-2020 01:45 PM

I said I was going to wait until after the Rendezvous, then this Cafe showed up in classifieds. What do you all think?

https://www.offshoreonly.com/classif...er-o77783.html

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...adf2fa0870.jpg

Thanks,
Doug

thisistank 05-06-2020 01:54 PM

It’s been for sale for about a year. Asking price is good. Get it surveyed and go check it out. Couple things I’d do is leak down the motors and Make sure the transom is dry. For the price it’s a good buy. I’d immediately rip the dash out and update and throw new interior in it. That’s just me. Of course that’s exactly what I did to our cafe...and then some. Lol

FiveTwelve 05-12-2020 12:29 AM

One reason I'm excited about the 1989 Cafe Racer in Texas is the 496 EFI engines. I've been told the fuel injected engines are more reliable and need less tweaking. I've also been told the 496s 'sip' gas (i.e. are fuel efficient). What are the advantages of the 502 EFI vs the 496 EFI (and any other fuel injected Mercruisers)? I'm still learning.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...5e17230176.jpg
I'm the one in the yellow.



rak rua 05-12-2020 01:12 AM

Aye Cap'n!

I had a single 496HO in my last boat. It got very little use but it was awesome. From reading on here, the 496 is great if you service it properly, run it sensibly and don't modify it. I think most people here will say the 502 is a stronger platform to build on if you're chasing hp. (Different internals and stuff that I'm not too clued up on)

Short answer, standard 496 is great. If you want to build more hp, 502 is much better.

Are you shying away from the outboard idea? Personally, I love outboards and Bullets. I'd be looking into the one in your other thread.

RR

Rhythm and Blues 05-12-2020 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 4734248)
Are you talking about the gun I posted that Hoss said was sold? It was a great deal. But gone now I guess.

I wouldn't touch that boat in Canada. Uh-uh.

The gun sold but is for sale currently; I spoke with the owner at length. He’s a multi boat owner and might just be trying to make a buck on it. 50k buys it IIRC, I have some pics. Unknown motor damage, drive history, structural history as of the previous owners. He did say he was told that when during filming the boat was rack stored and flushed religiously; for whatever thats worth, lol.. With a competent wrench and someone who knows their way around a Cig I’m sure one could sus out whats going on w it in a afternoon. It just fell into unloving hands with that production crew..

thisistank 05-13-2020 09:30 AM

Doug, did you talk with Blake? (with the Cafe). He's a nice guy. Just wondering if you made it out there to check it out.

FiveTwelve 05-16-2020 11:40 PM

Blake's Cafe is currently my top choice. It has a lot of advantages over the Florida boats, for one thing it's closer. I'm going to hold off moving forward until after the Rendezvous. Are you going to Osage Beach June 19?
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...aa9df0478a.jpg
Social Distancing on Lake Nacimiento

ICDEDPPL 05-17-2020 02:34 PM

Nice tiger on Facebook for $88k, looks clean .
500 EFI`s

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...2830e15d78.jpg

thisistank 05-17-2020 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by FiveTwelve (Post 4739306)
Blake's Cafe is currently my top choice. It has a lot of advantages over the Florida boats, for one thing it's closer. I'm going to hold off moving forward until after the Rendezvous. Are you going to Osage Beach June 19?
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...aa9df0478a.jpg
Social Distancing on Lake Nacimiento

yep. We’ll be there! Booked and ready to roll.

thisistank 05-17-2020 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4739389)
Nice tiger on Facebook for $88k, looks clean .
500 EFI`s

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...2830e15d78.jpg

really?! Holy crap that’s a good price. On a trailer? If one pops up with 6’s I’d seriously consider it and my refit isn’t even done lol.

ICDEDPPL 05-17-2020 03:47 PM

I think so too , not gonna beat any speed records but should be nice and
reliable. .. Myco trailer but no 6`s


https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...&theater&ifg=1


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...de6912386a.jpg

FiveTwelve 07-02-2020 02:12 AM

We had a great time at the Cigarette Rendezvous.

I only saw one Cafe Racer (and I'm told it is on the market now), and it looks as good in person as in the photos. I spoke with Gene at Performance Boat Center about the Cafe Racer I'm considering and at first he was skeptical that it was under powered for such a heavy hull. After learning my priorities (reliable engines and smooth ride) and my current "no need for breakneck speed", he agreed a Cafe Racer w/ 496 EFIs might be a good choice. So I'm moving forward with my purchase.

Perhaps my next post will be me with my first Go Fast.

Have a safe and happy Fourth! We'll be on our lake: Nacimiento.

Doug

P.S. I'm unfamiliar with the term Flat Deck, please enlighten me.

BDiggity 07-02-2020 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by FiveTwelve (Post 4746431)
We had a great time at the Cigarette Rendezvous.

I only saw one Cafe Racer (and I'm told it is on the market now), and it looks as good in person as in the photos. I spoke with Gene at Performance Boat Center about the Cafe Racer I'm considering and at first he was skeptical that it was under powered for such a heavy hull. After learning my priorities (reliable engines and smooth ride) and my current "no need for breakneck speed", he agreed a Cafe Racer w/ 496 EFIs might be a good choice. So I'm moving forward with my purchase.

Perhaps my next post will be me with my first Go Fast.

Have a safe and happy Fourth! We'll be on our lake: Nacimiento.

Doug

P.S. I'm unfamiliar with the term Flat Deck, please enlighten me.

Congrats on the purchase! i am hoping to have my Cafe back on the water @ loto next year.

Flack Deck is an older 38 model that, well, has a pretty flat deck. :)

ICDEDPPL 07-02-2020 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by FiveTwelve (Post 4746431)
We had a great time at the Cigarette Rendezvous.


Doug

P.S. I'm unfamiliar with the term Flat Deck, please enlighten me.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...3ff25958dd.jpg
It`s the model before the top gun, it had a flat deck lol

thisistank 07-02-2020 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by FiveTwelve (Post 4746431)
We had a great time at the Cigarette Rendezvous.

I only saw one Cafe Racer (and I'm told it is on the market now), and it looks as good in person as in the photos. I spoke with Gene at Performance Boat Center about the Cafe Racer I'm considering and at first he was skeptical that it was under powered for such a heavy hull. After learning my priorities (reliable engines and smooth ride) and my current "no need for breakneck speed", he agreed a Cafe Racer w/ 496 EFIs might be a good choice. So I'm moving forward with my purchase.

Perhaps my next post will be me with my first Go Fast.

Have a safe and happy Fourth! We'll be on our lake: Nacimiento.

Doug

P.S. I'm unfamiliar with the term Flat Deck, please enlighten me.

Bro, that's awesome! I helped the current owner dock up at Coconuts on Friday and checked the boat out in person. It's NICE! Great update done on it a few years ago and it appeared to be still in great shape. She's gonna be a VERY nice boat for you guys. Hope it all comes together and we'll rock both Cafes on Naci end of this summer!

FiveTwelve 08-02-2020 01:59 PM

I'm now a Cigarette owner!
 
I drove from San Luis Obispo, CA to Spicewood, TX and drove back with a 1989 Cafe Racer w/ 496s and Bravo Ones. I won't be the fastest, but hopefully reliable. I've already identified many minor repairs that will keep me busy. I'm actually looking forward to fixing it up.

Quick question: How do I search the forums for answers to questions that I know someone must have asked/answered before? For example: I need to replace the trainer's winch; what should the rating be for a Cafe Racer (about 9000#)?
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...74092be209.jpg
1989 Cafe Racer

thisistank 08-02-2020 03:05 PM

Congrats!!! Thinking a bunch of us are gonna head over to Catalina for the night on oct 10th. You guys should trailer down and go.

ICDEDPPL 08-02-2020 10:03 PM

Congrats!!
Axles are pretty far forward , how`s it tow? (tongue weight might be on the light side)

FiveTwelve 08-03-2020 01:24 PM

Winch Recommendation
 

Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4751129)
Congrats!!
Axles are pretty far forward , how`s it tow? (tongue weight might be on the light side)

Good observation. Tongue weight is quite low and the trailer has other issues. I'm taking it to my local trailer shop to get it serviced. The winch post can be moved forward about a foot. Do you think that will be enough or will the axles need adjusting?

WINCH RECOMMENDATION: I need to replace the winch. West Marine's website suggests the winch be rated at 3/4 the weight of the boat, so about 7500#. I'd like recommendations for a manual 7500# winch (Mfg in USA preferred). Thanks.

ICDEDPPL 08-03-2020 02:00 PM

7500# winch !? that seems over kill.
I use this 2000# unit, have for years, never let me down. my boat is heavy.
https://www.fultonperformance.com/pr...Y1PpPaWrsBWHg=
They also make a 2 stage model .

you`ll have to see if a foot gives you more tongue weight , low tongue weight will make it wag the dog all over the road .
Looks like you might be able to lower the winch post letting you move the boat even further forward and then move those boards up in the back .
Get a cheap bathroom scale and this is a good method of figuring out tongue weight ,

FiveTwelve 08-30-2020 05:34 PM

Exhaust manifold fitting broke off.
 
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...e2d81f6258.jpg
I removed, painted, and replaced the wheels and winch post and updated the winch. Everything was going well until I started up the starboard engine for the first time since I brought the boat back from Texas. Water spewed into the hull from a fitting hanging near the exhaust manifold. It appears that this fitting sheared off the manifold; very few threads remain on the manifold. Any advice on how to fix this is appreciated.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...a0da8054ab.jpg
Port side of starboard engine exhaust manifold
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...5058376041.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...ea0c7c5689.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...18d18a61c4.jpg
Brass fitting that broke off.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...4d534fcf64.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...205332a8bb.jpg
View of good fitting on port side of port engine.

underpsi68 08-30-2020 05:49 PM

That's an aluminum fitting. Are there enough threads to screw on a new firing?


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