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ICDEDPPL 05-23-2020 09:36 PM

To surge or not to surge
 
This EFI is cool :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkgB...ature=youtu.be

added 14* of timing with switch on

H20 Toie 05-23-2020 09:57 PM

That would be great when docking

Rick G 05-24-2020 12:28 PM

Dan , just not the same without the surge . Distinctive blower motor attribute otherwise your boat would sound like mine an NA motor boat boat with a blower hatch lol . RG .

underpsi68 05-24-2020 01:04 PM

Personally I'm not a fan of blower surge.

A lot of efi's have a timing vs rpm table for idle. Higher idle rpms usually you pull timing, lower than target rpm you add timing. No switch needed.

I know quite a few guys that don't run an iac and just use the idle rpm vs timing table with good results.

thisistank 05-24-2020 02:06 PM

That’s so freakin cool!

fyi. I love blower surge!

Rhythm and Blues 05-25-2020 05:21 PM

I love it!

Wildman_grafix 05-25-2020 06:53 PM

That is cool, if you want people to know they are blower motors press a button!

Wildman_grafix 05-25-2020 06:56 PM

I just noticed, is that a crank trigger? Even without surge just looked to be jumping some.

Unlimited jd 05-25-2020 07:30 PM

The display is not measuring timing, it’s displaying its target, which moves with rpm, vacuum, ect, iat, and other parameters

ICDEDPPL 05-25-2020 10:07 PM

It`s displaying real time timing but it`s a EFI so it is trying to control desired idle with timing /fuel etc .

During surge that IAC is working overtime to try and control that idle thou lol


ICDEDPPL 05-25-2020 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by underpsi68 (Post 4740472)
Personally I'm not a fan of blower surge.

A lot of efi's have a timing vs rpm table for idle. Higher idle rpms usually you pull timing, lower than target rpm you add timing. No switch needed.

I know quite a few guys that don't run an iac and just use the idle rpm vs timing table with good results.


I think you`re missing the entire point of a fun switch that makes the boat surge .. but if you don`t like surge then this switch is not for you :flag:

boostbros 05-26-2020 06:46 AM

anyone know why Sorcerer the skater with the wild paint had a very hard blower surge?

SecondWind 05-26-2020 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4740430)
This EFI is cool :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkgB...ature=youtu.be

added 14* of timing with switch on

That's freakin cool!

F-2 Speedy 05-26-2020 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL;4740699[u
]I think you`re missing the entire point of a fun switch[/u] :flag:

for sure

SB 05-26-2020 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by boostbros (Post 4740715)
anyone know why Sorcerer the skater with the wild paint had a very hard blower surge?

Prob because the injector set up (above and below supercharger) and ecu's used. Not too mention huge by large blowers, air shifted clutches for trans, etc, etc :) It was a pretty long time ago, so maybe not able to control it. Ran into them a few times in FL and it was badddddd azzzzzz. They made most of their own stuff. Their older cat had carbs, 14-71's, Big Chiefs, #6's, and etc..., and that would surge hard as they came idling in thru the inlet in Fort Meyers Beach on the Lovers Key side..
BTW: Really great people, in the short times I leaned over the side drooling like a Mstaff in 100 degree weather. LOL.

Anyway, again, I think they where making things on their own to deal with this but electronic technology wasn't good enough yet.

My 02.

thisistank 05-26-2020 10:10 AM

That super high pitch blower surge Sorcerer made with those dry exhaust was INSANE! Almost like the "zing" you hear when a #6 prop jumps out of the water when running hard. Didn't it have the GIANT PSI blowers in it? What ever happened to that thing?

flat rate 05-26-2020 10:22 AM

its been a while but i think those massive blowers on scoceror were there design. they were ahead of there time for sure. ill never forget the first time he came rolling thru party cove in there little talon with one of those massive engines in it. was definitely the center of attention!

Craney 05-26-2020 04:29 PM

Hot for Teacher has a very nice surge. Yes keep the surge.

thisistank 05-26-2020 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by Craney (Post 4740808)
Hot for Teacher has a very nice surge. Yes keep the surge.

Yeah it does.

Kelly's tiger has a nice little surge too and it's LOUD AF!



offshorexcursion 05-26-2020 11:30 PM

That's badazz man!

boostbros 05-27-2020 06:43 AM

i remember talking to them about the blower it had one rotor larger than the other maybe Eaton?

VortechSS 05-27-2020 12:01 PM

This just shows the flexibility of EFI! Good work Dan! (Just don't forget to turn that switch off before you hammer down!!! :drink:)



Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 4740759)
That super high pitch blower surge Sorcerer made with those dry exhaust was INSANE! Almost like the "zing" you hear when a #6 prop jumps out of the water when running hard. Didn't it have the GIANT PSI blowers in it? What ever happened to that thing?

Still hanging out at Ron's shop in Iowa.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...8d7684d246.jpg

thisistank 05-27-2020 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by VortechSS (Post 4740937)
This just shows the flexibility of EFI! Good work Dan! (Just don't forget to turn that switch off before you hammer down!!! :drink:)




Still hanging out at Ron's shop in Iowa.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...8d7684d246.jpg


Fire that bad boy up!! Let's hear it! :drink:

TexasBoy85 05-28-2020 02:43 PM

HFT is getting 100% rebuilds at the moment and adding EFI as well


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