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Sydwayz 02-07-2021 04:37 PM

I've been in a few boats that have been EXTREMELY hard to get on plane. And it was all due to props. They were propped for uber/utter last tenth of a MPH on the top end. You can't have it both ways. You get a prop that bites well and quickly, and allows you to get on plane easily. Or you can put some REALLY high dollar props designed to add RPMs and squeeze out the last few ticks of MPH on the top end. If you are consistency in rough water like the OP has shown; the latter are not the right props for such.

1MOSES1 02-08-2021 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4776659)
I dont think a sit down boat would be any fun in big seas, need as much free board as you can get, jmo.........I boat @ LOTO so I have no experience with big water..........

It’s certainly no lake Meade!!!

speicher lane 02-08-2021 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4776659)
I dont think a sit down boat would be any fun in big seas, need as much free board as you can get, jmo.....

In those seas, I think you would have more shock absorption in your legs than any common foam offshore seat and possibly suspension seats (ie. Outerlimits) as they will bottom out and the hammer effect goes directly up your back....

On the other hand, Tyson completed the Bermuda challenge in a stand up CC with an airbag suspension floor and the Sit down Skater. Granted it is not in 7 foot seas but it was 21 Hours in the CC and 15+ hours in the Skater of constant running

Andrew56 02-12-2021 05:34 PM

That boat is currently owned by a family friend of mine and it is perfect. It is basically a brand new boat inside and out. I know that it would easily push over 120 mph with the 1100's. I would imagine that the sitdown seats wouldn't be too bad in rough water. For driving slower in really big water it should be fine. My only worry would be if you tried to race through 4 footers you would get beatup eventually. Also I beleive that it planed pretty easily, very flat.

msurf 02-14-2021 05:47 AM

Guys I won't proceed with the maximus. It is only for sitted position and it has not suspension on the seats. Although it is beautiful and as new, and the company that sells is very professional.

They told me something interesting : That the cavitation of the 1100 or the 1350 is because of the big torque they have and they easily break the traction of the props (I am not sure if I use the correct terms) and do cavitation. So they said if I go easier on the throttle, it is as normal getting on plane or going down in mph. Anybody have relevant experience?

speicher lane 02-14-2021 07:37 AM

I think, for your application it still comes down to prop choice (design) and pitch and it's not just because of the 1100 or 1350......you can make a small O/B cavitate at will if you take a setup from a small tinner and try to push a work barge - you will go no where.

Change the prop out to a low pitch and it functions as it should. All props have to bite enough water at any point in the rpm band or they cavitate/ blow out. Every prop you put on any boat will have + and -, that's why it's called prop testing. The O/P just has 1 specific requirement that is usually a sacrificial tradeoff and farther down the line of priorities for the other 99% of boaters on here.

seafordguy 02-14-2021 07:57 AM

I've never seen a Maximus, but isn't freeboard as much a part of this discussion as anything.

I just know my Tiger is SO deep compared to even my Cafe. I think if I was facing his dilemma i'd go with deep freeboard and then figure the props out accordingly..... If you've got a Maximus budget you've got Rough Rider budget, and might even have a Maurauder budget.....

Just my. 02.......

offshorexcursion 02-21-2021 11:21 PM

I'll never stand again there's nothing better than a sit down boat! Your legs actually help you more pushing against the foot rest while the seat holds you in versus trying to control your entire body while standing. I'm more tired after riding in a stand up boat now and I've been in some of the best wave crushers built and can't wait to get back into a sit down.

You can prop the boat for what you are trying to achieve.

Cigarette Maximus, especially that one, are some of the coolest, most underrated boats ever made, well ahead of their time. They would be selling for double the money if they had a stupid cabin that no one would ever use but for some reason must have. Instead there's the necessary stringers and bulkheads to keep the boat strong and balanced so it rides well handles the rough and still goes fast!



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