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wieland77 02-11-2021 08:43 AM

2003 Playboy / Mistress 35 info
 
Been boat shopping for a while and just saw this for sale in Sarasota FL. Its a 2003 35 with HP500's and Bravo's that looks pretty clean, asking $89k without a trailer. Anyone know this particular boat? Seems like a reasonable price? Motors were gone through about 50 hours ago from what i understand.


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cheech 02-11-2021 09:12 AM

Isn't that the 35 "Tiger" :picard1: from one of the looking for a project threads?
Went and looked, post 16 and down?
https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/...e-project.html

PROTOTYPE28 02-11-2021 09:15 AM

I called on this boat about 30-45 days ago. I spoke with the broker and the mechanic as well. The mechanic told me the starboard motor header was leaking and caused water to crack the number 3 piston. They bored that cylinder only and replaced with an oversized piston. This steered me away from this boat. Should have had all 8 cylinders bored and all the same sized pistons put in. Also new headers not just weld up the old set. I was told this boat is also a saltwater boat as well. I also asked for receipts on this boat and they still have not been able to provide any at all. I got a quote from Manning on the trailer at $15,000 as well.

wieland77 02-11-2021 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by PROTOTYPE28 (Post 4777083)
I called on this boat about 30-45 days ago. I spoke with the broker and the mechanic as well. The mechanic told me the starboard motor header was leaking and caused water to crack the number 3 piston. They bored that cylinder only and replaced with an oversized piston. This steered me away from this boat. Should have had all 8 cylinders bored and all the same sized pistons put in. Also new headers not just weld up the old set. I was told this boat is also a saltwater boat as well. I also asked for receipts on this boat and they still have not been able to provide any at all. I got a quote from Manning on the trailer at $15,000 as well.

Sounds like he just fixed it on the cheap, I asked for documentation on the repairs and broker said that there wasn't any and that the repairs were done by a "friend". Sucks that they didn't get done properly or at least sleeve that cylinder and keep piston size the same. I was thinking a trailer would be around $10k as well, not 15 but good to know that too because i was going to call Manning.

PROTOTYPE28 02-11-2021 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by wieland77 (Post 4777087)
Sounds like he just fixed it on the cheap, I asked for documentation on the repairs and broker said that there wasn't any and that the repairs were done by a "friend". Sucks that they didn't get done properly or at least sleeve that cylinder and keep piston size the same. I was thinking a trailer would be around $10k as well, not 15 but good to know that too because i was going to call Manning.

When I priced the Manning trailer out it was loaded up with all the goodies! You can probably get a stripped down trailer for 10-12K through Manning.

Smoke eater 02-11-2021 11:04 AM

Bypass manning and look elsewhere

caseyh 02-11-2021 12:18 PM

I am in the metal business. the prices are sky rocketing no telling what a trailer will coast. we have had 15-20% increase across the board and going up still.

wieland77 02-11-2021 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by Smoke eater (Post 4777119)
Bypass manning and look elsewhere

Manning is here in MI a few hours from me, another trailer builder here is Integrity but they are usually higher than Manning. What other trailer manufactures would you recommend?

thisistank 02-11-2021 01:25 PM

I got quoted 13k for an ibeam aluminum trailer from Kokopeli Trailers in Phoenix. This had LEDs, 3 axle disk, electric brakes, upgraded wheels, etc.

https://www.kokopellitrailers.com/

Bfoodman 02-11-2021 02:09 PM

I was wondering about this boat myself. I sent an email around X-Mas and the lack of a reply now makes sense. I had asked about who had worked on the motors etc. No reply to my inquiry ever came. Its hard to fathom that they bored only one cylinder... But at least they were honest about it.

wieland77 02-11-2021 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by Bfoodman (Post 4777156)
I was wondering about this boat myself. I sent an email around X-Mas and the lack of a reply now makes sense. I had asked about who had worked on the motors etc. No reply to my inquiry ever came. Its hard to fathom that they bored only one cylinder... But at least they were honest about it.

Very hard to understand why they would do that when you are that far into the motor, there isn't much more expense to do it right? I guess if your putting an engine in a $10,000 boat and just want to get it running as cheap as possible, but not to a Cig that looks to be it pretty good shape. Without talking directly to the owner its pretty hard to get the whole story

Smoke eater 02-11-2021 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by wieland77 (Post 4777131)
Manning is here in MI a few hours from me, another trailer builder here is Integrity but they are usually higher than Manning. What other trailer manufactures would you recommend?


ivs recently heard sooooo many issues from people complaining about manning. Time frames that were missed and overall unhappy people. I would consider evolution as I know a lot of people have been happy as well.

https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/...-trailers.html

Bfoodman 02-11-2021 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by wieland77 (Post 4777157)
Very hard to understand why they would do that when you are that far into the motor, there isn't much more expense to do it right? I guess if your putting an engine in a $10,000 boat and just want to get it running as cheap as possible, but not to a Cig that looks to be it pretty good shape. Without talking directly to the owner its pretty hard to get the whole story

I think the expense for engine work is big numbers and folks look the respective cost and then just do whatever is cheapest. At least there was total transparency. I went and looked at the 2001 Top Gun in the OSO Classifieds (red and white) http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...at-o79083.html. When I went to look at it last August it had two engines and two outdrives with the representation that the engines were good - but one engine had its intake manifold removed and the story was that the engine was good and just needed the manifold put back on as it had just been powder coated. Maybe that was true but coupled with the removal of the motors and the boat now being sold for $100,000 without the motors - raises questions.... although who knows.... .


snopro13 02-11-2021 05:58 PM

I looked at the boat and I will just say the pictures look a lot better then seeing it in person. A couple of the steps were chipped and needed to be fixed,also some paint work didn't look right. The deck was filthy it was covered with some kind of black stuff,dirt? Also the deck may of had some gel coat work done in a couple of places,but too dirty to get a good look. I looked at the boat after I talked to Will about the engine work so I didn't have much interest at that point but checked it out anyway since I drove over 100 miles to see it!! I'm sure it could be a nice boat but not for me, too picky!

Shawnandkathi 02-12-2021 08:31 AM

I love this boat, saw it for sale about a year or so ago. Always raises a red flag when I see them go back on the market so quickly.
See if the broker is reputable and make sure you get a survey (with mechanic.)
I liked the stepped hull 35 idea but if it’s in bad shape you are getting into Top Gun territory by the time you drop 20k+ for motors and who knows how much for what else. (There is always what else ha ha )


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