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MJ11 03-20-2021 02:39 PM

Hatch ram relocation?
 
I installed new motors but the hatch ram is running into the new headers when we lower the hatch. What are the options for a workaround on this?

Thanks!
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...7426688e96.jpg

AllDodge 03-20-2021 04:11 PM

Any room in front of the motors?

I removed mine because there was no way to make it work. I lift it by hand

MJ11 03-20-2021 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by AllDodge (Post 4782439)
Any room in front of the motors?

I removed mine because there was no way to make it work. I lift it by hand

may be room in front, are you a gorilla? Mine is heavy as hell plus I need people to view my motors while parked :)

AllDodge 03-20-2021 06:52 PM

Mine isn't that heavy
Maybe some more pics of what your looking at

speicher lane 03-20-2021 08:38 PM

Can you run a pair of rams at the sides of the compartment like in the 42?

MJ11 03-20-2021 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by speicher lane (Post 4782471)
Can you run a pair of rams at the sides of the compartment like in the 42?

I haven’t seen that setup but I would assume I could. I’m sure this has to be a common issue in TG’s but maybe not.

IGetWet 03-21-2021 05:15 AM

Not a cig but I’ve been looking into relocating my lifts as the hatch does not open very wide on a ZR. Cig basically took two of your lift mechanisms and put them on either side on the staggered boats. Ingenious design in my opinion. Not a simple quick project but could be done yes. I’m sure replacing the headers now would be a bear. Other option would be to put electric lifts towards the front of the engine bay that push straight up on the hatch, but not sure if you have the room and those can impede access.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...54dffb296.jpeg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...69f300ec2.jpeg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...708c52d5d.jpeg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...1fc179c64.jpeg

1MOSES1 03-21-2021 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by AllDodge (Post 4782439)
Any room in front of the motors?

I removed mine because there was no way to make it work. I lift it by hand

what kind of boat do you own...

AllDodge 03-21-2021 08:31 AM

Formula 27PC with single 502

MJ11 03-21-2021 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by IGetWet (Post 4782487)
Not a cig but I’ve been looking into relocating my lifts as the hatch does not open very wide on a ZR. Cig basically took two of your lift mechanisms and put them on either side on the staggered boats. Ingenious design in my opinion. Not a simple quick project but could be done yes. I’m sure replacing the headers now would be a bear. Other option would be to put electric lifts towards the front of the engine bay that push straight up on the hatch, but not sure if you have the room and those can impede access.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...54dffb296.jpeg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...69f300ec2.jpeg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...708c52d5d.jpeg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...1fc179c64.jpeg

thanks for the pics, the 42 set up would be great. It may be possible for the electric ones also on the sides. Going to require some craftsmanship for sure.

1MOSES1 03-21-2021 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by AllDodge (Post 4782495)
Formula 27PC with single 502

gotchya...yea definately not lifting a hatch on a cig top gun. Thing probably weighs 200-300 pounds.

Rick G 03-22-2021 02:57 PM

Just a thought , what about realigning the motors but angling them a few degrees away from each other sufficient to allow clearance . The other thing I have heard was that you can have a wedge made for each of the opposing header flanges again sufficient to move the header toward the valve cover enough to afford clearance . The second oppotion is probably alot cheaper than those really cool staggered hatch ram set ups . Just thought . RG.

waycool marine 03-22-2021 07:10 PM

did you look at the eddie marine hydrolic hinges ?

seafordguy 03-22-2021 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by 1MOSES1 (Post 4782574)
gotchya...yea definately not lifting a hatch on a cig top gun. Thing probably weighs 200-300 pounds.


I bet my Cafe Hatch weighed more than that. It was ridiculous. Tiger Hatch can be lifted by two people - me and a guy carried it from the Gantry crane to shine sawhorses. Took several guys in the neighborhood to effectively lift my Cafe Hatch.....

1MOSES1 03-22-2021 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by seafordguy (Post 4782706)
I bet my Cafe Hatch weighed more than that. It was ridiculous. Tiger Hatch can be lifted by two people - me and a guy carried it from the Gantry crane to shine sawhorses. Took several guys in the neighborhood to effectively lift my Cafe Hatch.....

yea no doubt. it’s ridiculous


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