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Old 03-16-2003, 12:23 AM
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OK gang, I asked this earlier in the general area, but didn't get all the answers I was looking for, so I'm here to ask the "Cigarette Experts".
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Why does it seem that, given identical power and drives, that the older 30 Mistyque, 31 Bullett, 35 Cafe, and 38 TopGuns all seem to run about the same top speed?
Then, just when I'm about to accept this, I see a new Mistyque at Lip-Ships Performance with stock Merc 575's that runs over 100? What's so different about this particular boat?
Feel free to type slow so I'll understand, and pictures on a Big Chief tablet work also.
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Gordo, That 30' Mystique at Phil's(Lip-Ship) is a twin step boat. It is also not equipped with "normal,stock" 575's. That was Enrique Iglesias' boat and he had a few imaginative(read high $$$) mods done. He likes to go faaaaaasssttt, the Gladiator he traded the 30' for runs over 100mph as well. Can't speak for the older boats, just thought I could explain this case.

Hope this helps a little, Greg.
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Gordo, That 30' Mystique at Phil's(Lip-Ship) is a twin step boat. It is also not equipped with "normal,stock" 575's. That was Enrique Iglesias' boat and he had a few imaginative(read high $$$) mods done. He likes to go faaaaaasssttt, the Gladiator he traded the 30' for runs over 100mph as well. Can't speak for the older boats, just thought I could explain this case.

Hope this helps a little, Greg.
Exactly. The Twin step is the main reason. Then throw the tricked up 575's on that hull and you get speed.

By the way Cash. Philly took me with him and Neill to test Enrique's new Gladiator. 107 on both GPS's. Sweeeeeet!
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I didn't realize the Mistyque had steps. How much are the 575's pumped up? Does anyone know the numbers of the new Cigarettes with, say, stock HP500's? or stock 525's?

Is the 31 Bullett still being built? if so, does it have steps?
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No more Bullet. Now, no more Mystique, either!

I don't really know about the newer speeds. Sorry.

The '02 Mystique in the class. in Oklahoma does about 74-75 according to the listing dealer. Hope you find what you are looking for.

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Those 575's were some that Richie Zul pumped up to around 625hp. The Twin Step Mystiques w/ 500's will run in the upper 80's, sometimes more depending on conditions. 496's run 80-85. The conventional or "flat bottomed" Mystiques run around 10 mph less than the Twin Steps.

I know the boat on Grand Lake Oklahoma. It's really nice. It was bought brand new and wasn't used at all by it's first owner. The second and current owner uses the boat and respects it very well from what I've seen. Hope that helps a bit.

Go to www.grand-performance.com and you can check it out.
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Can anyone guess what to expect from an 87 Cafe Racer, with 425Hp's and TRS drives?
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62-65 would be my guess
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Hey Gordo -

Two weeks ago we were in Phil's tiny little front office. Prior to taking his Cigarette out, Enrique Englesia's was in there signing CD's for Philly. More importantly, Enrique's girlfriend Anna Kornikova was there with a bikini on with a sheer coverup. Much as I like Cigarettes (I'm in my third) Anna' body was right up there with Cigarettes. I think she's the twin - step model by the way.

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Well, I would deffinately want the newer twin stepped version.
So, you talked me in to it. I'll take her.
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