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Primal Instinct 12-23-2003 01:40 PM

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Wow, some beautiful cigs!

I didn't have any cigs in my past, but did have two 28 Sabers! :D :D

1989 Saber 28 w/ twin 454 mags.
1995 Saber 28 w/ twin 540 (625hp)

Now have a 1999 38 Top Gun which had Bravo XR's and 700's and now has #6's and 950 Chiefs..

Von Bongo 12-23-2003 01:45 PM


Originally posted by Primal Instinct


Now have a 1999 38 Top Gun which had Bravo XR's and 700's and now has #6's and 950 Chiefs..

Wow, so if you don't mind me asking, how and who did the Bravo to 6 conversion? That had to be a lot of work?

Primal Instinct 12-23-2003 02:41 PM

Von Bongo,

Saber did the glass work and some of the rigging and my company Great Lakes Performance did the rest...yea it was a ton of work! :crazy:

It has been a very fun project and we are extremely happy with the results...the personality of the boat really changed with the bigger drives and engines...tremendous amount of torque is great for wave bashing... :p

boatme 12-23-2003 10:42 PM

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first cig for us

Primal Instinct 12-23-2003 10:47 PM

Marc,

Looks like you learned quick to "Drive it like ya stole it"!! :cool:

See ya in a couple of weeks bro!

Cash Bar 12-23-2003 11:48 PM

Hey O.C. Barry, Did that '94 come from National Liquidators? It looks just like a boat that was a little stripped that they were selling?

Greg

lucky strike 12-24-2003 12:03 AM

Nice lookin' Cigs guys, keep the pics coming

LS JR.

O.C.Barry 12-24-2003 05:45 AM

Cash Bar -

Yes, it did come from National. It was VERY stripped, no motors, no drives, no tabs, no guages. We recut the transom and installed 3A SSM's.

Cignificant 12-24-2003 08:03 AM

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First Cig (so far). It's heading to the paint shop Friday morning, so it won't look like this for long..

Biggus 12-25-2003 11:42 AM

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Here`s my '89 Gun, we`ve had it two full seasons and looking forward to a third.

Biggus 12-25-2003 11:44 AM

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come on spring!!!!

Biggus 12-25-2003 11:45 AM

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:D

TIGER-1 12-25-2003 02:17 PM

Biggus,That's an awesome looking Top Gun.
Speed,drives,power ???
Where in Maine and how long is the season?
How close to Eliot,Maine?

Biggus 12-25-2003 03:42 PM

Thanks ocrob,

I`m a little over an hour north of Eliot, Sebago lake region.

The Gun is an '89 that was totally redone, paint and graphics, a new interior, bolsters from Cig in 2001 I had the cabin upgraded last winter. Motors are 671/Superchiller 468`s Huber trannies and TRS drives. It`s a lot of fun and we have the only Cig on the lake :D ...although the noise patrol up here is getting to be a pain

The season up here can run as early as April and we usually end the middle of October.

Been a strange winter so far, today it`s 50 degrees!

Can`t wait 'til spring!!!!

Hot Duck 12-26-2003 11:59 AM

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My first Cigarette was a 2000 Carbon Fiber TS Top Gun. I kept that for a little over a year and then traded it to Lip-Ship to build the 2003 Gladiator. I am now considering selling the Gladiator because I have decided to completely sit out of racing for a few years. The other option, instead of selling it, would be to make the Gladiator a hardcore poker run boat. A pair of Whipples, some air conditioning and a nice stereo would be pretty cool. We'll see.

OldSchool 12-26-2003 09:15 PM

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We are on our first Cigarette. We got it in September of this year and absolutely love it!!! It's a '88 Bullet that has been totally redone over the last two years. New engines, new drives, new interior, steering, dash, exhaust....etc. The trailer is a 2001 Manning. We plan on keeping this one for 5-8 years and then move up to a TG:cool:

OldSchool 12-26-2003 09:18 PM

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Mild 502's All show...No go:cool: :cool:

lucky strike 12-26-2003 09:37 PM


Originally posted by Hot Duck
My first Cigarette was a 2000 Carbon Fiber TS Top Gun. I kept that for a little over a year and then traded it to Lip-Ship to build the 2003 Gladiator. I am now considering selling the Gladiator because I have decided to completely sit out of racing for a few years. The other option, instead of selling it, would be to make the Gladiator a hardcore poker run boat. A pair of Whipples, some air conditioning and a nice stereo would be pretty cool. We'll see.
HD-
Which one did you like better and why?

LS JR.

Hot Duck 12-27-2003 12:38 PM

For racing, I like the Gladiator better just because of the canopy, but I would say that the Top Gun was my favorite overall because we could load up friends and use it between race trips. The Top Gun had no cabin or back seat, so to take riders along we had to remove a piece on the front of the engine hatch that normally covered the area from the engine hatch to the rear of the front bolsters. This left the area from the engine hatch to the front bolsters completely empty and open. Friends had plenty of room to stand there and hold on to the grab handles. In the Gladiator, you can get one or two people in the back behind the seats, but there is not as much room as there was in the Top Gun.

As far as ride and handling, I would have to say that the Top Gun and Gladiator are pretty much the same. The hulls appear to be nearly identical. To me, the Gladiator seems to be a cut down Top Gun. I think that if you lowered the deck on the Top Gun and removed the rub rail, you would have a Gladiator. So, if you are trying to choose between the two, I would say to just concentrate on the differences between the two and decide what fits you best. For example, do you prefer to sit or stand while running? Do you need a cabin? Since there is no rub rail on the Gladiator, do you mind using bumpers everywhere you go? These are just a few of the things to consider.

Comparing the two for pleasure use, I personally would go with a Top Gun. I like having cabin space even if it is only used for storage. I also prefer standing up while running rather than sitting down. This is just my opinion, but I honestly believe that both are great boats and you certainly could not go wrong with either one.

SKRAMER 12-27-2003 12:58 PM

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1989 35 caferacer. My first cigarette and loving it.

cigarette 12-27-2003 05:19 PM

89 31 Bullet
94 38 Topgun 600sc
97 38 Topgun 600sc
2000 38 Topgun t/s 500 efi

lucky strike 12-27-2003 05:39 PM

nice rides, let's see some pics

LS JR.

stecz20 12-29-2003 11:58 PM

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hey biggus, you ever sell that pig you better let me know. love your rig man.....here is my little old cafe racer. i love it!

lucky strike 12-30-2003 12:04 AM

We had an 89 Cafe Racer Anniversary. What a great boat!!

LS JR.

stecz20 12-30-2003 12:27 AM

im not saying a cafe racer is cheap, but if you want to step up into a cigarette, you get a feel of what its all about. for 100,000 or less great way to role with the big dogs. biggus's gun is going to look sweet next to the cafe racer. yes indeed.............

O.C.Barry 12-30-2003 09:35 AM

Jack - I talked to you about Long Shot, but was in the midst of putting our Top Gun together and recovering from cancer, so it was a little too much of a project at the time. Our Top Gun is done and I too would entertain an old Cig race boat. I don't want to bid against you, but if you pass on something, please let me know, I may have interest. I know you run across a lot of cool stuff. I'm still kicking myself for not buying Long Shot from you and just covering it for 9 months. If your buddy ever tires of the project, please let me know.

BLee 12-30-2003 09:49 AM


Originally posted by cashbrain
39 Race Boat(Long Shot)

Nice. :cool:

lucky strike 12-30-2003 09:57 AM

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It is a piece of history. I looked at it when it was down here.

LS JR.

lucky strike 12-30-2003 02:39 PM

Cash,

I believe that there was 1 "Long Shot" 39 Cigarette. Originally it was white. Then they painted it black. The boat Bill had before "Long Shot" was a 36' Performer called "Evil Ways" or "Night Moves." Before that boat he had a 28' Magnum called "Evil Ways." Just my $.02

LS JR.

lucky strike 12-30-2003 07:59 PM

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Here is a picture of "Long Shot."

LS JR.

lucky strike 12-30-2003 08:28 PM

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Cash,

Here is the boat pre "Long Shot" a 36' Performer.

LS JR.

lucky strike 12-30-2003 08:29 PM

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Cash,

Here is the boat pre "Night Moves" a 28' Magnum, "Evil Ways."

LS JR.

lucky strike 12-30-2003 09:01 PM

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Cashbrain,

If you look close enough you can see the 39' Cigarette "Long Shot" in white. 1979.

LS JR.

Rice Hauler 12-31-2003 02:09 PM

Well since you asked here goes.

My first Cigarette was a 1991 Top Gun
GT-1 edition (whatever that was.)
Hurricane Paint Scheme (a factory design of the time)
Teal and Berry colors.
(Hey, It was still the eighties in a lotta ways)
Hawk 525 supercharged engines w/TRS drives
It was a 70-73 mph boat.
I haven't found the pics yet but I'll post em when I do.
This was when the Flat Black dash was popular and the 525 supercharged Hawk was a little hotter than average. (During this time period all the "Hot" Cigarettes had Hawk Racing Engines it seemed to me.)
Gaffrig Throttles no trim on Throttles then just on the dash.
Full Cabin with enclosed Head
Fondly named Rice Hauler II
More to follow
Best,
Robert Shin
a.k.a. Rice Hauler

Rice Hauler 12-31-2003 02:49 PM

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Moving right along....

The next Rice Hauler was a 1990/1999 Top Gun
This one was equipped with Normally Aspirated Hawk 600's and TRS Drives.
This was a boat that Phil had completely redone.
White Dash. Gaffrig Throttles again but trim on the throttles (Thumb Button)
The boat ran an honest 70 and could be pushed to 75 tops.
Full cabin again with enclosed head and v-berth.
Take a look.

Rice Hauler 12-31-2003 02:51 PM

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The engines....
They were real Gas Hogs but better than the 525's in Rice Hauler II Wide Open consumption on these was around 100gph or so.

Rice Hauler 12-31-2003 02:52 PM

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Last pic of Rice Hauler III

GLH 12-31-2003 03:01 PM

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Heck I'll give Robert a hand, although I have no clue what number it is!

GLH 12-31-2003 03:02 PM

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.2

Rice Hauler 12-31-2003 03:02 PM

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The next one....

Rice Hauler IV was a real treat.
This was one of the first "step bottom" boats that cigarette tried. They designed the bottom in house and did a very short run of boats to try it out. (maybe 5-6 I really don't know)
This boat ran much flatter than the previous two and the ride improved dramaticaly. a flatter attitude and a much stiffer hull.
When I questioned Phil on this he told me that this was the beginning of vacuum bagging and that was the reason why.
The boat ran 75-78 anytime and could exceed 80 on the GPS.
This one was equipped with an extended covergirl cabin and no more enclosed head.
take a look.....


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