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2112 03-20-2004 03:00 PM

OK Guys, please vote
 
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Gus sent me two variations of paint that can be done over the top of what I already have;

Your opinions please!

Simple change first

2112 03-20-2004 03:00 PM

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fancy version now

2112 03-20-2004 03:02 PM

Maybe I can get him to put the deck of #2 onto the hull of #1?

I like them both;

Havasu Cig 03-20-2004 03:02 PM

I like the first one better. Both look good though.

Havasu Cig 03-20-2004 03:04 PM


Originally posted by 2112
Maybe I can get him to put the deck of #2 onto the hull of #1?

I like them both;

Actually I think I like that idea....I like the deck in Pic #2 better, but the plain hull sides in pic #1. Whatever you choose will look great though.

spitfire1 03-20-2004 03:07 PM


Originally posted by 2112
Maybe I can get him to put the deck of #2 onto the hull of #1?


I agree....that would look really nice.....

dockrocker 03-20-2004 03:42 PM


Originally posted by Spitfire1
I agree....that would look really nice.....
Agreed - though I still think it looks good the way it is right now :)

Aqua-Holic 03-20-2004 03:51 PM

The first one makes the boat look longer IMO....I think the second deck on the first hull would be the best!

lucky strike 03-20-2004 04:01 PM

Yep! Take the deck of #2 and put it on the first.

LS JR.

Cigaretteman 03-20-2004 04:10 PM

I would go with number 2 on the deck and hull it looks much better.

Cigaretteman

stecz20 03-20-2004 04:32 PM

i agree, deck 2 on 1...

Zero Patience 03-20-2004 04:47 PM

#2 is it.

otis311 03-20-2004 05:36 PM

#2 all the way for me

cobra marty 03-20-2004 05:44 PM

#2

MrCIG 03-20-2004 05:48 PM

#2

2112 03-20-2004 07:40 PM

Thanks guys,

I will talk to Gus Monday a.m.
I will ask him to try #2 deck on #1 hull. I will post when I recieve it.

I appreciate being able to bounce this off those all ready "living it"

2112 03-20-2004 07:55 PM

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Originally posted by ONESICKGLADIATOR
Yep! Take the deck of #2 and put it on the first.



Hey 2112 motors are u going with

Sick;

I have to tell you I am a Ford guy. I have repowered my previous two boats with big power Fords.

I am having the boat built with 525 efi's. I wanted the rigging to be complete when I got it. There is a chance I will stay with that power but I am very inclined to build the mounting system for Fords and repower right away and sell the merc's as new.

I fabricate my own 4 point solid mounting system. The forward motor will be easy since I use marine (Merc?)bellhousings with the Borg-Warner bolt pattern. I have two fresh 572 inch, Robert Yates head engines in my Fountain right now (way too much power for that boat). I may use those and have Stellings headers built just like yours.

The big draw for the staggered engines was the room I could use to power with 572 inch Boss 429 engines. The headers are custom either way. Power difference would be minimal. It just the ultimate Ford expression for me.

If you noticed, I have port side steering and the starboard motor is forward.

I'll attach a picture of my current Ford engines.

2112 03-20-2004 08:00 PM

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From the front, idling at the dock. These are stellings headers BTW

pm203 03-20-2004 09:30 PM

Deck#2 onto deck #1 and get rid of that light grey stripe that runs down the middle of deck#2.That definetly does not belong there.
Also,I wanted to go with port side steering,but was talked out of it.I think the boat would be easier to drive.Whats your feeling on it.

One sick glad,please comment as well.

2112 03-20-2004 10:49 PM


Originally posted by pm203
Deck#2 onto deck #1 and get rid of that light grey stripe that runs down the middle of deck#2.That definetly does not belong there.
Also,I wanted to go with port side steering,but was talked out of it.I think the boat would be easier to drive.Whats your feeling on it.

One sick glad,please comment as well.

I am VERY right handed. I have had two other offshore boats and although both were starboard side driver seats, one of them (a Warlock) had right handed throtttles and I had a much easier time operating them at a level I was happy with.

I could have had right hand throttles with right side drive but that would have required the "wide version" cockpit which I did not like as well.

pm203 03-21-2004 10:40 AM

So when you move the steering to the port side,you have to change what motor goes forward in the staggered setup?

GLH 03-21-2004 12:36 PM

#2 All the way

I think I agree that it's hard to stop a color on the curve of a glassed rub railed boat.

BTW Please don't put Fords in that beauty!!!

TIGER-1 03-21-2004 02:04 PM

With a lot of color on the top deck you will be waxing it all the time and it does get hot.Take it from someone that has been down that road,less color is better!!!

A boat looks bigger with less color.

I vote for #1

2112 03-21-2004 02:19 PM


Originally posted by pm203
So when you move the steering to the port side,you have to change what motor goes forward in the staggered setup?
I don't think it was an absolute requirement, we just decided to do it that way.

2112 03-21-2004 02:26 PM

BTW Please don't put Fords in that beauty!!! [/B][/QUOTE]


Why not?

99.9999999% of all performance boats are chevs. Wouldn't a few Viper engined or Ford powered boats add a nice mix?

You can't be too anti-Ford, You posted an entire "tribute" photo collection to the awesome GT that is soon to hit the showrooms.

PS My current Fords are 98% Factory issued parts, you know, like bow-tie stuff. The quality of the parts is phenomenal. well designed, Beefy (where indicated), well machined, and well performing. A Big Block Ford is just a big version of what the NASCAR boys run.

GLH 03-21-2004 06:31 PM

The NASCAR boys are on asphalte.

About the fords all I am thinking is resale you want to stay as appealable and servicable as possible. Then again if you are not worried about resale then what ever floats your boat!

I have an Excursion and I love Fords but for Marine engines to be practicale and servicable anywhere in the country Ford or the new V-10's on the water is not the way to go and will hurt you big on resale. Again it only applies if you care about those parameters

I wish you good luck with that awesome rig.

32storm 03-21-2004 07:04 PM

#1, but with something added tro the deck. But, not necessarily the #2 deck.

BLee 03-21-2004 08:28 PM

I think #2 when it's actually painted would look really sweet.

2112 03-21-2004 09:19 PM


Originally posted by GLH
The NASCAR boys are on asphalte.

About the fords all I am thinking is resale you want to stay as appealable and servicable as possible. Then again if you are not worried about resale then what ever floats your boat!

I have an Excursion and I love Fords but for Marine engines to be practicale and servicable anywhere in the country Ford or the new V-10's on the water is not the way to go and will hurt you big on resale. Again it only applies if you care about those parameters

I wish you good luck with that awesome rig.

Of course you are absolutely correct about resale. I have developed a bad habit about not taking that into account. I think even the paint and red gel-coat bottom are going to to hurt resale. I think any non-merc power will not give the ROI that a stock engine will.

Sick;

I will upgrade the drives if I up the power>

Brad 03-21-2004 09:40 PM

I like the second one the best!
I think the red really makes a bold statement!

GLH 03-21-2004 10:05 PM


Originally posted by 2112
I think even the paint and red gel-coat bottom are going to to hurt resale. I think any non-merc power will not give the ROI that a stock engine will.
2112 Don't worry about the red gelcoat you'll have plenty of time to wax it while waiting for a Ford Marine Mechanic to fly into Washington State. :D:D:D



It's a joke please just a joke don't crucify me please.. We're still here to laugh, No? I had to do it!!!:D:D:D

2112 03-21-2004 11:52 PM

GLH;

Crucify you? You have only raised accurate and salient issues. You are a prolific poster and I enjoy both your sense of humor and wisdom gained directly through experience.

When I started this thread, your opinion was one of those I was anxious to hear.

I am not a "Ford Snob" BTW. In fact, I am jealous that mercury has chosen to base their line up on Chev products. I secretely hope that GM pisses them off with this vortec stuff so they will go elsewhere.

(I know the aftermarket (dart/merlin etc)will always be there for them and I also know that Ford is not interested in pushrod technology any more so the likelihood of them getting in bed together is between slim and none.

2112 03-22-2004 12:01 AM

As of Sunday night, Pacific Coast time the tally is as follows;

Option 1; 3 votes

Option 2; 8 votes

combo(deck 2 on hull 1) 7 votes

Leave as is; 1 vote

damdonzi 03-22-2004 10:34 AM

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I agree too. #2 deck on #1 hull. But....

Tell me I'm not crazy here, but if you put the deck of #2 on #1 it bascially makes the oval for the Cigarette logo.

Granted it would require a little ingenuity, but you could have the biggest Cigarette logo ever made across the top of the entire boat!

A very, very rough idea of what I mean below.

DoTheMath 03-22-2004 10:48 AM

Hmmm, tough choice! I do like the "old school" style of #1, but the deck graphics on #2 look great, so I'd combine the two. #2 is nice but it looks a bit too "also ran" with all the other busy graphics out there these days, do something different and go your original route, with a bit of a twist.

And the idea of the "giant" Cig. logo on the deck!? Things that make you go hmmmmm! Could look pretty ballsy!:cool:

Tbonepmp 03-22-2004 01:55 PM


Originally posted by OTIS311
#2 all the way for me
I AGREE!!!!!
Definitely #2....

2112 03-22-2004 09:56 PM

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Three new variations, thanks Gus

#1

2112 03-22-2004 09:58 PM

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#2 Simplified a bit of previous #2

2112 03-22-2004 10:00 PM

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#3 with wider stripe down deck. Last two had no stripe, this is to check differences since several did not like it

BLee 03-22-2004 10:18 PM

Now #2, #2 modified and #3 are the prettiest and most unique.


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