Offshoreonly.com - Does anybody know this Cafe?

Page 3 of 6

Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page

Offshoreonly.com (https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/)

- Cigarette (https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/cigarette-32/)

- - Does anybody know this Cafe? (https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/cigarette/83283-does-anybody-know-cafe.html)

lucky strike

07-21-2004 06:08 PM

Re: Does anybody know this Cafe?

Quote:

Originally Posted by j winkelman

Lucky Strike, I think it was Bud that I talked to at Cigarette, all he really said was that the Carbon 70 's are a little lighter. He really didn't answer my question on weather they were prone to any problems or not. I like the Top Guns alot to but I really haven't found any in that price range that aren't TRS boats.

You need to do your homework. Talk to people that have had TRS boats and talk to people that have had bravos. See which boats porpoise and which blow drives.

LS JR.

Jamie B.

07-21-2004 06:17 PM

Re: Does anybody know this Cafe?

Quote:

Originally Posted by j winkelman

Lucky Strike, I think it was Bud that I talked to at Cigarette, all he really said was that the Carbon 70 's are a little lighter. He really didn't answer my questions

I'm not defending him, but I believe that Bud was either working in the Parts department at Cigarette or building engines for Hawk during the time frame that the Carbon Fiber boats where being built / produced, so his knowledge of them might be limited in that aspect.

cigarette1

07-21-2004 06:25 PM

Re: Does anybody know this Cafe?

How much and where, is the Carbon Fiber used in the Carbon70 models?

G

Jamie B.

07-21-2004 06:42 PM

Re: Does anybody know this Cafe?

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucky strike

I didn't get a direct answer out of him because we were on the factory floor but he said 400 lbs is like two people and two people wouldn't make a huge difference. He asked me what my boat ran, 64? I said no it had 525SC Hawks he said then oh probably 72. I said yes. So 64 to 72=8 MPH. There is your difference in the Carbon Fiber.

LS JR.

Isnt 64 mph more in line with what an old school ( vee bottom ) 502 mag / bravo TG will run with 780 hp compared to your 980 hp SC525's ? I thought that a SC525 old school TG would run 67/68 mph normally . . .

Jamie B.

07-21-2004 06:48 PM

Re: Does anybody know this Cafe?

Quote:

Originally Posted by cigarette1

How much and where, is the Carbon Fiber used in the Carbon70 models?

G

I'm not sure G.

cigarette1

07-21-2004 07:07 PM

Re: Does anybody know this Cafe?

I know the old school Top Guns and Cafe Racers run the same with equal power. My Cafe ran 68-69 on GPS with stock 502MAG carb motors. After bumping the power to roughly 535hp, I ran 74+ on GPS. Everyone doesn't trim the same and two people will see a different top end. You will only see the speeds I ran in the right conditions and running very loose.

So there's your 3.5-4 mph / 400lbs

Tabs Up / Drives Out

G

lucky strike

07-21-2004 07:35 PM

Re: Does anybody know this Cafe?

Hey G today I spoke to Bud at the factory, he said the only race boats that are carbon fiber, are the 5 - 42 foot Top Guns.

cigarette1

07-21-2004 08:37 PM

Re: Does anybody know this Cafe?

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucky strike

Hey G today I spoke to Bud at the factory, he said the only race boats that are carbon fiber, are the 5 - 42 foot Top Guns.

Actually, only 4 38' Top Guns were the Carbon Fiber models :)

Original boat and team
Speed Racer (Dick Simon & Stinson)
Virgin (Tres & Todd)
Maxx (not sure, Martin Marine)
mine (Phil & Cabasco)

G

4 extremely rare and VALUABLE boats :D :D :D

lucky strike

07-21-2004 08:56 PM

Re: Does anybody know this Cafe?

Quote:

Originally Posted by cigarette1

I hate to disagree with you Gary, becuase I would love them to be Carbon Fiber, but their not according to the people who built them.

thedonz

07-21-2004 10:20 PM

Re: Does anybody know this Cafe?

When I spoke to Craig Barrie he told me he was at Cigarette when the carbon fiber boats were built. He said there really was not much of a difference with the fiberglass boats because carbon fiber was only used as a layer. The boats were primarily fiberglass because they couldn't make them purely of carbon fiber because they would be very weak and crack.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:34 AM.

Page 3 of 6

Last »

Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page