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lucky strike 12-25-2004 11:24 PM

Gladiator Speeds
 
I know that a 525EFI boat will run 90mph, but I'm wondering how much hp it will take to run 100mph? How fast with 700s? Is a Gladiator stable at speeds over 100mph?

I know we have gone over this before, but is there anyone that truly knows whether a staggered Gladiator is faster than a side-by-side with the same power?

Does anyone know how many Gladiators have been made to date?

Thanks,
LS JR.

BLee 12-26-2004 12:07 AM

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I told you haw fast T.A.'s went.

spitfire1 12-26-2004 07:03 AM

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Why dont you buy mine and then put it to the test.......cmon...you know you want to....so...... :D :D

GLH 12-26-2004 08:13 AM

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Ask rick/osg? :D:D:D

lucky strike 12-26-2004 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire1
Why dont you buy mine and then put it to the test.......cmon...you know you want to....so...... :D :D

How about a test ride today? :drink: It's nice and windy 24mph gusts :rolleyes:

T/S Gun, sorry don't recall how fast :(.

LS JR.

mavrick10 12-26-2004 10:00 AM

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I have kind of been wandering the same thing. I just
ordered a gladiator with 750 Sterlings. Neil told me
he thought around 108-112 if we get it propped right??

mkramer 12-26-2004 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mavrick10
I have kind of been wandering the same thing. I just
ordered a gladiator with 750 Sterlings. Neil told me
he thought around 108-112 if we get it propped right??

:eek: WoW, do they really go that fast???

lucky strike 12-26-2004 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mavrick10
I have kind of been wandering the same thing. I just
ordered a gladiator with 750 Sterlings. Neil told me
he thought around 108-112 if we get it propped right??

Cool, will it be staggered or side-by-side? I remember Enrique's Gladiator with 750 Zul's ran 107mph.

"ONESICKGLADIATOR" has 800 Zul's and runs 112mph.

So, if there is a 5mph difference between 750 & 800, a boat with 700s should run 102mph? Can anyone clarify this?

LS JR.

BLee 12-26-2004 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by lucky strike
T/S Gun, sorry don't recall how fast :(.

LS JR.

In one ear, out the other. :rolleyes:


T.A.'s boat ran 102-103 when I drove it. Side by side setup, 700 Zul's. The one with 750 Sterlings and the left side driver station only ran high 90's until they completely retuned it. It ran maybe 100 or so afterward. Better have good engines to get the good speeds. :D :D

lucky strike 12-26-2004 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TwinStepGun
In one ear, out the other. :rolleyes:


T.A.'s boat ran 102-103 when I drove it. Side by side setup, 700 Zul's. The one with 750 Sterlings and the left side driver station only ran high 90's until they completely retuned it. It ran maybe 100 or so afterward. Better have good engines to get the good speeds. :D :D

I know, I know :(. Thanks for the info again! Do you have any pics you could send me? Are you coming down for New Years?

Bobby

pm203 12-26-2004 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by lucky strike
I know that a 525EFI boat will run 90mph, but I'm wondering how much hp it will take to run 100mph? How fast with 700s? Is a Gladiator stable at speeds over 100mph?

I know we have gone over this before, but is there anyone that truly knows whether a staggered Gladiator is faster than a side-by-side with the same power?

Does anyone know how many Gladiators have been made to date?

Thanks,
LS JR.

Staggered Gladiators should be slightly faster than side by side Gladiators.Last I heard,the factory was working on hull #45

lucky strike 12-26-2004 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by pm203
Staggered Gladiators should be slightly faster than side by side Gladiators.Last I heard,the factory was working on hull #45

Thanks. How is your Gladiator? Is it down here for the Winter?

LS JR.

GLH 12-26-2004 11:30 AM

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OSG's mills

2112 12-26-2004 12:48 PM

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I believe Brett will be able to give you the best comparison of the two, apples to apples.

One note, If you ever might use another outdrive besides a bravo, The staggered set up will rule out drives with trannies in the boat and arneson drives.

dhlaw 12-26-2004 01:23 PM

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Mike!!! Thanks for the gift!

As far as the comparison goes... I need some more seat time in the new boat. We are still chasing some instrument grounding issues and a few other detailing things before the fun starts. The boat runs very well though. I need to get BK1 some stick time so that I can concentrate on driving with both hands!!!!

lucky strike 12-26-2004 05:02 PM

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What is the reason some Gladiators are turning the props in?

pm203 12-26-2004 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lucky strike
Thanks. How is your Gladiator? Is it down here for the Winter?

LS JR.

I love my Gladiator.It was at the factory for some warranty work.It is now home in heated storage getting polished and over detailed!The factory sets up all the Gladiators with the props turning in.They claim it gets on plane faster and easier and overall rides better.It sure throws a nice rooster tail.

lucky strike 12-26-2004 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by pm203
I love my Gladiator.It was at the factory for some warranty work.It is now home in heated storage getting polished and over detailed!The factory sets up all the Gladiators with the props turning in.They claim it gets on plane faster and easier and overall rides better.It sure throws a nice rooster tail.

Got any pics of it?

LS JR.

dhlaw 12-26-2004 08:48 PM

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And yes the staggered will be slightly faster because you can play with the toe in/out to get a few mph increase..... until the props touch!!!

mcraymond3 12-26-2004 09:40 PM

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I heard by turning the props in, it doesn't chime walk at w.o.t.????

mavrick10 12-26-2004 09:46 PM

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Luckystrike......my boat is going to be staggered.

twin step........are u going down to the orange bowl?? I noticed the Oklahoma helment. I go to OU right now.........we are going to try and do a tour of the cig. factory and check up on my boat while we are down there. Hopefully we'll kick some Trojan azz!!!!!

BLee 12-26-2004 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mavrick10
twin step........are u going down to the orange bowl?? I noticed the Oklahoma helment. I go to OU right now.........we are going to try and do a tour of the cig. factory and check up on my boat while we are down there. Hopefully we'll kick some Trojan azz!!!!!

Yep, I'll be there. I'll be messin around the factory myself during that week.

USC better bring their "A" game, cuz were comin to play. BOOMER! :drink:

spitfire1 12-27-2004 05:15 AM

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Bobby....I believe all Gladiators are now built with a staggered set up unless the customer specifically asks for a side be side config....the fastest I have seen so far on my boat is 92...and it is not propped right either.....I also turn in and it does throw a nice rooster tail.... :eek:

thespy 12-27-2004 09:34 AM

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That boat goes fast !!

lucky strike 12-27-2004 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire1
Bobby....I believe all Gladiators are now built with a staggered set up unless the customer specifically asks for a side be side config....the fastest I have seen so far on my boat is 92...and it is not propped right either.....I also turn in and it does throw a nice rooster tail.... :eek:

Thanks for the info Rich. Are you going to be around this weekend? We may go to Montys on Saturday, MM & Lucy will be there along with LostinBostin in his Nor-Tech. Who's ready to have another Gladiator - Apache Showdown!?!?! :eek: :D

Bobby

spitfire1 12-27-2004 03:34 PM

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Wish I could.....but I will be working again.....one of these days......although the way the weather has been lately...I am not missing much am I ?? :drink: :drink: A pic of a wayward insurgent...... :drink: :eek:

lucky strike 12-27-2004 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire1
Wish I could.....but I will be working again.....one of these days......although the way the weather has been lately...I am not missing much am I ?? :drink: :drink: A pic of a wayward insurgent...... :drink: :eek:

Nah, you haven't missed anything. We haven't been out in two weeks! :eek: :( :eek:

LS JR.

P Offshore 12-27-2004 07:10 PM

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My Gladiator props turn out.
I tried turning in and it started chine walking around 95mph.
Mine is side by side.

pm203 12-27-2004 11:43 PM

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[QUOTE=lucky strike]Got any pics of it?

LS
yes

spitfire1 12-28-2004 09:15 AM

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Beautiful.........

TheGladiator 12-28-2004 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by lucky strike
Cool, will it be staggered or side-by-side? I remember Enrique's Gladiator with 750 Zul's ran 107mph.

"ONESICKGLADIATOR" has 800 Zul's and runs 112mph.

So, if there is a 5mph difference between 750 & 800, a boat with 700s should run 102mph? Can anyone clarify this?

LS JR.

My gladiator runs 103 mph with staggered 700 Zuls.

lucky strike 12-28-2004 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGladiator
My gladiator runs 103 mph with staggered 700 Zuls.

I spoke to Phil yesterday about your boat. He told me he was bumping the engines up so you should run a little faster than that when it's all said and done :cool:! Can you post any pictures of your boat?

Thanks,
LS JR.

lucky strike 12-28-2004 09:27 PM

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Where would be the cut off line hp wise be before you start blowing drives left and right?

LS JR.

JCPERF 12-28-2004 11:00 PM

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The staggered Gladiators run 2 MPH better than side by side.We have seen 108 MPH with 750HP and Hering 6 blades.
Jeff at Zuls

dhlaw 12-28-2004 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JCPERF
The staggered Gladiators run 2 MPH better than side by side.We have seen 108 MPH with 750HP and Hering 6 blades.
Jeff at Zuls

Imagine how fast it would go with 5 blades!!!!

GLH 12-29-2004 01:32 PM

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Friend rides with 6 blade Herrings on a staggered Glad and says he lost about 4 miles per hour when he went from 4 blades to 6 blades, but the 6 blade set up is much more civil. His high end is still above 105.

mkramer 12-29-2004 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GLH
Friend rides with 6 blade Herrings on a staggered Glad and says he lost about 4 miles per hour when he went from 4 blades to 6 blades, but the 6 blade set up is much more civil. His high end is still above 105.

105 MPH, that's fast

mavrick10 12-29-2004 08:23 PM

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JCPERF.......You say you have seen 108 with 6 blade herrings and 750's. Was that with a very light load?? What will it run on a daily basis w/ people and some fuel??
Also what pitch are those props? Sorry for so many questions. I have some 31 pitch 6 blade herrings but i don't know if i'll have to have them reworked or not. My boat will have 750 sterlings. Thanks in advance.

lucky strike 12-29-2004 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GLH
Friend rides with 6 blade Herrings on a staggered Glad and says he lost about 4 miles per hour when he went from 4 blades to 6 blades, but the 6 blade set up is much more civil. His high end is still above 105.

Hey GL, which boat is this?

LS JR.

BEAST1 12-29-2004 10:06 PM

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I always wondered how is the ride when you are sitting down at those speed vs standing up???


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