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What should I pay for a 1989 cafe that has a pair of 540's with b&m blowers (not sure what size) but the motors put out like 750. (30hrs on motors) The hull has been painted with awesome graphics that were done perfect, and i could tell people the boat was brand new.....and they would believe me (its that nice) completly redone. I really want the boat, should I pay 80,000?

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Have it surveyed and look at what the rigs listed in the classified here and boattrader.com go for.

I sold a '94 Cafe/wTrailer in Dec 2003 for less than that. Paid a lot less then that to buy it in 2002. Had 2000 502 MagMPI/Bravo's for poer and drives and ran 68 mph.

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What drives?

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That's alot for a Cafe Racer. It better be PERFECT before you drop that. You could have a Top Gun and money to spend for 80. :cool:

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Thats kinda what i was thinking..... but the boat is georgous. mint mint mint. it has xr's with 12 inch ext. boxes.

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Who did the motors ? That, and the contents, are very important.

Got any pictures of it ?

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It probably runs mid 80's in speed.

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I'd step up to LS gun!

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It sounds like someone put a lot of time and effort into the engines/drives/paint. To me, that makes it stand way out in front of a newer boat with stock power(502's etc). You can't compare this boat to other "stock" boats. Custom engines and hardware separate the men from the boys and really determine the VALUE of an older Cig. Throw the NADA book out the window on this application.

Find one with comparable equipment and then compare $$$$. Better yet, price a stock boat and then add up the expense to duplicate........plus consider you wont be boating for months while the modifications are done.

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I am unsure who built them as of now and im waiting on the pics.... hopefully ill have all that soon. Yeah he swears the boat runs 87 with a 4 lb pulley, I dont know that yet... ive only seen it and didnt run it. yeah nada's like 74 at most. I love the boat, i guess i should just pay what its worth to me! Im probably gonna run the boat and that will help my decision im sure.....

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Thanks for the input/advice...... :D please let me know of any hot deals on simular cigs......

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post some pics of this pig...

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lol I will, but i have to go take some.... i forgot my camera when i went to look at it!

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That's exactly how these boats are valued. I can tell you the Cafe is easily top 3 of my favorite Cigarette's ever. A completely upgraded one with nice power would be worth more to me than a bigger, less detailed model.

I say go for it if you love it and plan to keep it for awhile. If you plan to shop for something bigger or different in a year, you will lose on the deal. :cool:

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I agree. Ill keep everyone posted! thanks again... thats all i needed was some convincing

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I sent you a PM about our Top Gun, let me know if you have any interest.

Thanks Stomrider.

LS JR.

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1989 do you have a picture or hull number? cb

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i dont have the hull number in front of me but boat originally had black transom with black teal and pink stripes. it also had everglades offshore racing team decals on side between bolsters and back seat. every thing on this boat is new and was bought from cigarette including interior and new 2003 bolsters and bases. it would cost $40.000 to bring a trs gun to this level if your, doing the work.i dont realy want to sell the boat but cash talks.

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#2: Twin Step Gun?
#1: Rum Runner?

Just a guess. ;)

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Go get yourself a mechanics mirror and cordless drill. Then spend at least 2 hours digging into every crack and crevas and under every cusion and seat from the tip of the anchor locker to the outside lower corner of the transom. Look for loose stringers, bulkheads, flooring, etc. Look for soft spots in the cockpit flooring. I have an 89 cafe. When I went shopping, I looked at 4. Two were real pretty. All but one had a loose bulkhead or stringer, etc. The most cosmetically nice one had a 1/2" crack in the cowling in front of the glove box. The boat I ended up buying needed cosmetics but the hull was flawless. It had racing team stickers on it? Look REAL hard. You can put lipstick and makeup and a prom dress on a pig, but when you wake up next tot her in the morning, she's still a pig.

Not to burst your bubble, but look real hard. I bought a real pretty Donzi once that cost thousands to fix afterwards. Also, here's another question, how long ago did the boat get painted? Paint is great for covering up stress fractures when it is fresh. Then, you take it out on a day of 3-4 footers and when you are cleaning it at the end of the day, new fault lines appear.

Hey, if the bost is all it appears to be, go for it. BUT, look REAL hard first! 80K is 80K.

Mongo

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LOL. I can promise you that the Rum Runner boat does not make the list. I would shop another brand before I owned that boat, or American Muscle. :eek: Thank god they were only concepts.

That's purely my opinion, which sucks at times. :mad: :D

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My bet is WoW.

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Harsh :D :eek: :D

LS JR.

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Oh weve all seen the boat Bobby..... glad it sold, glad he loves it. Doesn't matter what anyone else thinks.

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I guess somebody didn't like my post last night because it mysteriously disappeared. I guess oso is becoming as biased as cnn. I think it sucks that everybody can give their opinions about my boat that they know nothing about, but when I defend it the post just disappears. GLH can you please post the picture that you did last night. I would but don't know how. At least with the picture posted, most will be able to tell its worth as much as an outdated top gun

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asmith ,,, nope don't take it personal bud! The board had probs last night ,,, and all week for that matter :(

A lot of posts got deleted, a lot of good discussions up in cyber smoke!! And as I heard someone here say once ... it's a shame cuz I was brilliant last night :D :D

read this thread asmith

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If you send me the pic I will gladly post it for you :)

I think most folks on here would agree with you (at least I know I would) that a well cared for, updated/upgraded boat, in mint condition, is well worth the investment when compared with some of the top dollar, stock, 'newer' boats. I just bought one! ;) Don't get excited ... I see no one knockin your rig.

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my apologies to oso.
allan

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:) now where are those pics of this beauty??? :D :D :evilb:

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they are on pokerunpix.com, hamptonroads powerboat association poker run after rudee inlet segment page 2. american flag graffics cafe. there are also some in the richmond poker run, bay segment. dont know how to transfer so any help will be appreciated. thanks allan.

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Nice boat, not too big on American Flag graphics but yours isn't over the top. Looks good.

LS JR.

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hey asmith im with ya, i have a cafe that im redoing. in my eyes any older cig that is done up with some power and updated is bad ass. here are some pics of my baby. the others on the board have seen these pics but ill post some for you.. i have some paint work to do and the dash and im set... stecz

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asmith, your killing me.. thats how i wanted to paint my rig. very nice, i love the paint.... if that boat is as clean as you say and is done up right, definitely worth the money in my eyes....what else are you going to get that is as bad??? nothing.... lets see some dash and engine pics.. stecz

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Just a question...Is the american flag graphics boat above the one in question for 80k????

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i think so....

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Here's a few .. looks very nice in the water

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and 3 more ... Good luck Allen :)

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I'm pretty sure too.

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Thanks, I'm up to date now....Looks sweeeeet :eek:

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we need some dash and engine shots... chop chop....