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boatme 10-11-2006 05:31 AM

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I saw Bobby Kiser at a party last summer and he told me the old systems boat is in FL somwhere

does anyone have old pics or recent ones ?? anyone know where it is

It is on my list of desires to have as a poker run boat

lots of upkeep with aluminum hull but ilove that boat

any help out there??

Black Tornado 10-11-2006 07:21 PM

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What Systems do you talk?
There was two Cougar tin cat of Bob Kaiser: the first was a 38' former Sprinter of 1985. It's the most famous of the Systems ,winner of the National Title in 1987. Then,from 1989,Kaiser raced with a new 40'.
After the debut on Open class in 1983 with an Active cat 37' former Lee Bomar's Wolverine,Kaiser bought the Cougar 38' from Viv Williams and with Errol Lanier to whom he raced in 1983,and with the name GK Systems raced in 1986,in 1987 like ACR Systems,in 1988 like Swiftsure,Chevrolet and Systems and always with Lanier to the throttle.
In 1989 Kaiser changed to a new Cougar cat 40',sold the old 38' to Scheer that renamed it Assault Scheer Delight/Melons and Thoroughbred in 1990-91.
With the 38' Kaiser-Lanier won 6 races ,1 National championsips in 1987 and a World Cup in Open 1 class in Key west 1986.
The new adventure with the 40' didn't go well with only a victory in 3 years. The experience with the Gentry Turbo engines in 1990-91 was full of DNF. In 1989 the 40' was named Systems,in 1990 Gentry Turbo Eagle and at least in 1991 Excalibur.In any case always with a black painted boat.
I don't know if the 38' continued to race after the 1991. With the 40' Kaiser raced again in 1994 come back to Systems name and MerCruiser engines but turbocharged.
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2...erresizez4.png
Before became the Kaiser's boat it was Sprinter. Key West 1985.
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/5...bkaiseryy9.jpg
1986 GK Systems before the cockpit modifications.
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8...stems87mu5.png
1987 ACR Systems with the new canopyand the cockpit withdrew removing the rear little places.

Black Tornado 10-11-2006 07:41 PM

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http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/747...88resizkx3.png
In 1988 Kaiser-Lanier raced initially with the boat named Swiftshure Motor Yacht...
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/858...nepowergs8.jpg
..then Chevrolet Marine Power...
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...at last in Key West in the old traditional Systems.

I haven't pictures of the boat after that Kaiser sold it to Scheer in the versions Assault or Melons. Here the only one like Thoroughbred found in a old thread on OSO.
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3...ughbreduy7.jpg
Note the little modified on the deck in front of the cockpit.

Black Tornado 10-11-2006 08:13 PM

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Concern the Cougar 40'
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8479/systemzw0.jpg
The first version in 1989. Note the "shark nose",the clear deck without rivets and reinforcement barrel and the deck cut in the beam.
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1093/systemsyu6.jpg
Anothers shot taken in 1989 powered with MerCruiser turbocharged and two big fins.

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/407/kaiser90qh4.png
1990's season powered with anothers turbocharged engines but now the Gentry Eagle.
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/6...caliburul0.jpg
The 1991's version with the Gentry Turbo. Key West. The "shark nose" is disappear.


I don't know what boat Kaiser told you,but If you will find it and buy you've a lot of versions to choose.
Where is now the boat I cannot help you because I don't live in Florida. Sorry...and good luck!

c12 10-11-2006 08:22 PM

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that last picture is from the 1889 worlds in Atlantic City NJ

Dangerous Dave 10-11-2006 08:47 PM

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From what I remember they were trying some crazy turbocharged small blocks without a lot of success. I have an awesome Freeze Frame Video from the 1987 worlds in Key West with ACR Systems hangin it out but I believe they broke and Steve Curtis in Cougar won. It was also the year Pete Hildago made the rest of the modified class look stupid in a 30 ft Shadow cat with United Racing engines.

Black Tornado 10-12-2006 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by c12
that last picture is from the 1889 worlds in Atlantic City NJ

I think you are right.
I had some doubt about it and after that I had see the new fins and some difference in the shape of race number and sponsors I though maybe is the 1994.
I have rectify the mistakes. Many thanks!

boatme 10-12-2006 04:16 AM

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I have a copy of his promotional video, it showed one full year of racing (not sure the year) it is way cool and i need to convert it to DVD as it is getting worn

The 40' is the boat i am most interested in. Something about that boat just pulls me in

I remember Kaiser sitting in the boat in Grand Haven talking to Chuck Norris about racing and i just stood there like an idiot and stared I was so in awe

By that time I had my second boat (21' Scarab) I was hooked and since then have had a number of offshore boats but nostalgia is kicking in and i am looking to possibly make my next boat a project/classic boat

Everyone else was over by Don Johnson and my son and I were all alone with Norris and Kaiser ahhh the days

Thanks for the pics they are awesome!!!!

Marc

Black Tornado 10-12-2006 04:37 AM

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Bob Kaiser was my favourite american driver that years. I remember when in 1987 him boat and a few others came with the new jet fighter's canopy. I liked so much that Cougar 38' with the cockpit so withdrew,black and silver....showed power,speed.
That years Kaiser duelled a lot with John Antonelli in the red Spiit of America a sister boat of Systems but with the canopy too big that showed it less beautiful.
And then the throttleman was Lanier,the Master of the cats.

nocigarette 10-12-2006 05:16 AM

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I Know There Is A Black Tin Cougar Not Rigged Right By Me..........the Guy Has Been Talking About R Igging It But I Dont Think He Will.............it Is A 38 Or 40 Northline Road Between Pelham And Dix.........in Taylor

Black Tornado 10-12-2006 06:39 AM

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Nocigarette who are you? Lanier?

boatme 10-12-2006 06:43 AM

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Mr Lanier has been here, and run in our poker run a few years ago

Class guy all the way

nocigarette 10-12-2006 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Tornado
Nocigarette who are you? Lanier?

no sir not familar with the man, but some people think i am a class act......lol

SUNSATION 25 10-12-2006 04:38 PM

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I have an autographed pic of the Swiftsure boat on my desk in front of me but damnit so scanner...............

26scarab 10-12-2006 06:26 PM

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I also have a copy of Kaiser's promo video. Great footage in it, we also play a drinking game to it. Every time you here the name Bob Kaiser , you have to do a shot. I only made it about 20 minutes into it. :drink:

ratman 10-12-2006 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by nocigarette
I Know There Is A Black Tin Cougar Not Rigged Right By Me..........the Guy Has Been Talking About R Igging It But I Dont Think He Will.............it Is A 38 Or 40 Northline Road Between Pelham And Dix.........in Taylor

can you take some pics of it and post them?

c12 10-12-2006 09:07 PM

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here are some pics

boatme 10-13-2006 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ratman
can you take some pics of it and post them?


Yea what he said !!!!!!

By the way what a COOL board section

I am really geting into the old stuff latley

I looked at the old Goodwrench boat a few years ago now i wish i would have bought it

Then again i wish I would have kept this boat too

I owned it for 5 years and i really miss it

boatme 10-13-2006 04:47 AM

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c12 great pic thanks

Black Tornado 10-13-2006 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by c12
here are some pics

The second pic is one version of the Kaiser's Active cat 37',the first Open class boat of him.

boatme 10-13-2006 06:30 AM

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this is what i just sold

boatme 10-13-2006 06:31 AM

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I would love to find the boat that c12 posted (Systems)

Fast Forward 10-13-2006 08:12 PM

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I ran across a bunch of old photo's from 1986 & 1987 I thought you might enjoy. Sorry for the poor quality.

Fast Forward 10-13-2006 08:14 PM

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Marc here's a good shot of your old ride.

Also a guess who shot.

boatme 10-13-2006 08:53 PM

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yep that is my old boat

Was owned by the marina that hosted the races back then and then ended up in the owner of the marinas (Randy Postama's) Daughter and son in-laws possession

That i who i bought it from

ahh those were the days

Fast Forward 10-13-2006 09:45 PM

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For some reason I'm thinking I have a picture of your boat without the arch? Did you by chance remove it? Or maybe I'm thinking of another boat.

boatme 10-14-2006 10:08 AM

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must be another boat

not mine

c12 10-15-2006 06:24 PM

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here are some pics they gave out at the 89' world as a press kit i guess.
I hope these come out

ratman 10-15-2006 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by c12
here are some pics they gave out at the 89' world as a press kit i guess.
I hope these come out

dayum look at the equipment csot and cost to race for a season. a million each...in 87, wow

glassdave 10-17-2006 09:20 PM

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if anyone has any questions concerning the "new" unrigged 38 Cougar just out side Detroit i will be seeing the owner later this week and can get some more pics and info. Phil you need this to add to your collection, would be cool sit'n next to the Mich Lite boat in the driveway :drink:

glassdave 10-17-2006 09:24 PM

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oh an since i see we have soem Michiganders on this thread heres some old race stuff i ran across the other day. Northport 200 in Traverse city 1985. i probably have some pics somewhere that my dad took i'll hafta look for them.

Black Tornado 10-18-2006 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by glassdave
if anyone has any questions concerning the "new" unrigged 38 Cougar just out side Detroit i will be seeing the owner later this week and can get some more pics and info. Phil you need this to add to your collection, would be cool sit'n next to the Mich Lite boat in the driveway :drink:

It seems the sister boat of Reporter that Steve Curtis used to race the European races in 1988.

boatme 10-22-2006 01:19 PM

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Wife found some old programs in a box today

cool stuff

boatme 10-22-2006 01:19 PM

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more

activatorf1 08-28-2008 06:30 PM

Bob K was the first to patent the waterborn paint for the OEM'S back in the day

Larry

Outcast1 08-29-2008 11:53 AM

Any shots of the old Chrysler Laser boat?

h2oboater 08-30-2008 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Outcast1 (Post 2668553)
Any shots of the old Chrysler Laser boat?


Here is one from 1984 Northport 200 program. Seen Bob K at Emerald City Harbor last weekend, riding in a friends blue & white 29' Mirage. And the Laser's owner Red Crain now has a Fountain CC fishing boat on L.S.C.


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