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Originally Posted by flying fish (Post 2958797)

1977 Marina Del Rey,Oct 1st - 2 Beep Beeps

So,see what you make of this Marco.

Beep Beep - 75/76/77/78 then Caldentey 02

Beep Beep Two - 77/78/79 then Michelob Light - 80 then Limit Up - 80 (No pic of Michelob Light but raced by Halpern)

Mollywood - 79 then Benihana and wrecked

I had not made a comparison among the Cobras 38' yet.
But you have done it very well I believe.
Very easier than those damned cats CUV you don't believe?

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Originally Posted by 818181 (Post 2956566)

Here's 1 I found!!

that boat was bob oetringers old winning boat ,world champ in 87-88?

Yes it was!!, Spoke to him last week!

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Originally Posted by Black Tornado (Post 2962300)

I had not made a comparison among the Cobras 38' yet.
But you have done it very well I believe.
Very easier than those damned cats CUV you don't believe?

Sonny Miller here, MSV,

I designed and built the mold and plug at MSV at 44' of which we took out some hulls at '44 and I had a contract with Joel Halpern for 10 hulls which he used in his Cobra racing team (and some pleasure boats). I also used the same hulls under the name MSV '38, Cobra '38, Celebrity '38 and Fun Marine (Monaco) '38. These are all my designs.

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Originally Posted by CAL500 (Post 2974805)

and what about Jean Claude Simon ?

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Originally Posted by caldente (Post 2974988)

and what about Jean Claude Simon ?

Simon temporarily worked for Joel Halpern and Joel designed the deck of the '38 which is on top of my hull and they went on to win the US Championship with my hull and their deck. The boat was assembled in Hollywood, FL, one block from my shop with Joel's mechanic team. Later they built the '32 Cobras on their own.

The first two hulls were laid up in my glass shop by Guido Marti Foreman and his crew. The third hull (I think) was kevlar handled by DuPont in the same shop.

If you look in the photographs you will see the '38 Cobra/MSV. Simon has always forgot to mention me as the designer of the hull. My contract was with Joel Halpern and Cobra Race Team - nothing to do with Mr. Simon.

I am the sole designer of the '38 hull used by Cobra to build the '38 race boat which became the US1 Champion. There were no changes made by anyone to the bottom of the boat at Cobra Marine OR Jean Claude Simon. Mr. Halpern seeked council from me on the performance of the boat because I had ran some '38 hulls earlier; pleasure and race. My opinion of their deck design at the time it was built was wedged-shaped and may drive the bow down some at high speed. Normally race decks are flat and give some lift. Mr. Joel Halpern became interested in my hull after we won the Benihana Point Pleasant Grand Prix in the La Tortuga at '44 length.

The '38 Cobra hulls were from the same mold as the '44 La Tortuga MSV.

-Sonny Miller

What do the letters MSV Stand for?

MSV=Miller, Saccenti(sp?), Varese
I believe Varese passed away in an airplane crash.
Are the molds from the 44 still around? What ever happened to "LaTortuga"?
Thanks for all the information CAL!!!