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Top Banana 04-14-2007 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by Black Tornado (Post 2093215)
We alls wait the Richie's Memories,wait the Crouse new book....and who was there in those legendary years.
Yes Nigel,the Elswick's Thunder at the CTC of 1978 was the former Blonde III of Hanks.
That boat renamed John Player Special sank during the Mar del Plata's World Championships race in the next December.
I don't know if then the boat was recovered from the bottom of the sea.


No, it was very rough and at the time, Chile and Argentina were on war alert with each other.

The patrol boats that were normally used for a race were not allowed out.

Due to the political situation, it is doubtful if anyone would have been allowed to try a salvage attempt.

Black Tornado 04-14-2007 04:13 PM

Thus no coordinates,no how many feets....
How many can resist the fiberglass under water?:(

BROWNIE 04-15-2007 10:26 AM

When it comes to sheer will and infinite power, nobody before or after Mr. K has made a dent. His will to win permeated his team. Remember that he went racing in NASCAR, and kicked their ass too! By 1967, he had enveloped the world of offshore racing. Even former sworn enemy, Aronow, was racing 'black power'. The lone holdouts on this side of the pond were Wynne and me. In 1967, I was elected Chairman of the APBA Offshore Racing Commission, and US delegate to the UIM. Stangely enough, the Merc team voted for me because my opponet was 'Dinny' Phipps, major sackholder of Holman Moody. I had won Miami-Nassau, the Gateway, and Atlantic City (Class 1. Stenback won overall in an outboard when I hit a telephone pole) in '67, and got elected to the Gulf Marine Racing Hall of Fame, along with Aronow, who had won US1 (the title, not the highway). He beat me by 25 points for the title. He had won 600 points in races that I did not run.

The 'tall block' Mercruiser 496 showed up. I told Mr. K that, like chewing gum in the 5th grade, if you didn't bring enough for everybody, you must spit it out! The next day, a courier delivered a letter from Ed Cole, Prez of GM at the time, stating that he would sell me all I wanted. No stopping that guy! At the Hall of Fame induction ceremony breakfast at the NY Boat Show in January '68, I sat between Rene' Andre who had just broken the 200 MPH barrier in a drag boat (and had his left arm wrapped in plastic preperatory to having it lopped off) and Lee Taylor, who had just gone 267 MPH in a jetboat. I was in Heaven! Rene told a story about Taylor. Taylor won a bet in California by going 125 MPH in the quarter mile on a SKATEBOARD. He fell at the traps, and skinned off most of his 6 sets of leathers. Anyway, Mr. K came over and sat with us. He questioned Rene about his arm, and after the breakfast, flew him in the corporate jet to the Mayo Clinic and got it fixed! He turned to me and said "Dammit, Brown, why don't you stop racing that obsolete crap and join us. Pick any of my boats, and any of my crews, and they are yours for the entire year, no charge". "No, Mr. K, if I switch camps, you will stop racing. I don't want to join you, I want to beat you". I never did again......

VintageOffshoreClassic 04-15-2007 12:04 PM

Awesome story Brownie I hope you don't mind I printed this one out for my shop for the young guns to read, they won't understand it but I do.....

Top Banana 04-15-2007 02:04 PM

Another Brownie story.....it is about an election where he was running against Dinny Phipps....I think it was for something in OPBRA back in the 60's.

Dinny stands up and tells the crowded room of members, all of the reasons they should vote for him and all the wonderful things that he envisions he could do for them, and OPBRA in the future. Polite applause.

Brownie stands up...... and looks seriously at the same crowd and tells them..."Dinny Phipps is a communist." and then sits down.....Brownie won in a landslide.

Deauville Trophy 04-16-2007 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by 7xchamp (Post 2093109)
Phil: good to see you back, I would love to go back to deauville and sit at the little cafe on the corner accross from the harbor where we launched the boats, and all the teams would gather. remember the year we raced after a major strom, I believe it may have been a Hurricane, I remember making the crossing on the ferry boat from Southhampton to Lahavre on the way to Deauville, we were on the top deck inside and took waves over the entire ship, waves had to have been 40 to 50 feet in highth, scary exciting to say the least, plus it was freezing cold and rotten, I think it was the same year we had the accident on the way to deauville where three people were tragiclly killed when they skidded head on into our truck which was pulling the Dry Martini, it was horrible, I was helping the people best I could until help arrived, it was cold rainy and slippery like ice. Anyway when we raced the seas were still probably 8 to 12 foot big rollers, I took one big one over the entire boat just trying to get out of the cut and to the start line, anyway we won. Also the best steak au poivre in the world at the big fancy hotel we stayed at, they made it table side, unbelievable, I sure miss those days. thanks for the pix you send, how about some of how it looks today. 7XCHAMP


Thanks Richie,

As you can see, Iam using a picture of the harbour with that little cafe in the background as an avatar from now on.
I will definetely take some updated pictures on my next visit in May.
Hopefully, I will also try to access the archives of the Deauville Yacht Club and find something interesting there.

Phil.

dammmagnum 04-16-2007 04:48 PM

Hello Rickie and Brownie,

Thank you for your many stories about the history of Offshore. Its nice for me as an older guy to go back and think about all the races that I saw and also about the ones that I raced.
Thank you
Keep the memories coming
Jim

WA-LO 04-16-2007 05:42 PM

Brownie thanks for all of the stories, just curious did any of
your boats use the "SOHC" Holman Moody 427s I havnt seen or read about any being used. but I think they would have been a great combo in those 28 Donzis. Thanks

Biggus 04-16-2007 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by WA-LO (Post 2095639)
Brownie thanks for all of the stories, just curious did any of
your boats use the "SOHC" Holman Moody 427s I havnt seen or read about any being used. but I think they would have been a great combo in those 28 Donzis. Thanks

Cool motor!
I've got a buddy who's into the SOHC motors. He bought one new from Ford in 1968 for his Hallett flat bottom. It's been in his shop for years.

Here's one in an old 34 Ford

WA-LO 04-16-2007 06:33 PM

Ive got one wedged in my 34 3window ford. They are cool but
a little pricey!!

Thanks for the cool pics!!!


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