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Kismet 06-27-2007 08:34 PM

Bertram High Performance Boat?
 
I was @ Norwalk Cove Marina (CT) today & saw a great looking older style H/P boat that had no HIN # but it had Bertram on the side. Anyone know anything about a 26-31' H/P boat built by Bertram. It had to be pretty old registration sticker on it was from 1988 (but my eyes told me late 60's/early 70's). I would love to know more about it looks like a great project

TexomaPowerboater 06-27-2007 09:11 PM

I don't know anything about them, but there is one for sale and has been for a long time.

http://www.iboats.com/used_boats/boa...020/42951.html

lucky strike 06-27-2007 10:58 PM

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I think they made 10 or 11 Barons

I was lucky enough to have had one

They came with 351 Fords with Volvo drives or 6 cyl Chevys with merc drives.

Top Banana 06-28-2007 05:28 AM

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During that same time period, Bertram also made a boat that length that was strictly a race boat.....did it look more like this?

Kismet 06-28-2007 06:18 AM

I don't know anything about them, but there is one for sale and has been for a long time.

http://www.iboats.com/used_boats/boa...020/42951.html

Yes I believe this is it. How did the boat run, top speed... I really like the Magnum Maltise anybody have any thoughts on comps?

senzaspectre 06-28-2007 07:26 AM

I happen to know of one with original drives and motors, needs a total restore.

Any one know more info on this model???

Sean 06-28-2007 08:55 AM

That's a 28 Bertram Baron. I saw it there a year or so ago, and though the same thing.

http://speedmasters-inc.com has one.

HiPerf2000 06-28-2007 09:58 AM

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A friend of mine has one. I believe its a 1970.

h2oboater 06-30-2007 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by senzaspectre (Post 2180001)
I happen to know of one with original drives and motors, needs a total restore.

Any one know more info on this model???

Not the red and white one with 6 cyl merc's, ygrowup tride to find it a home last year.

h2oboater 06-30-2007 10:07 PM

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There were two blue and white Bertram 28' boat's on Lake St Clair back in the 70's, one had Ford power and this one had Chevy power. Could this be the one for sale ??????

h2oboater 06-30-2007 10:34 PM

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Here is one more, looks like someone made a copy, a 28' Outlaw 7' beam just like a Bertram hull and a few deck modifications.

Kims 07-01-2007 01:13 AM


Originally Posted by lucky strike (Post 2179826)
I think they made 10 or 11 Barons

I was lucky enough to have had one

They came with 351 Fords with Volvo drives or 6 cyl Chevys with merc drives.

I know it is off the subject, but I just love that towing vehicle. Reminds me of the good old days...:D

Phil M 07-01-2007 05:03 AM

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seems like yesterday !

lucky strike 07-01-2007 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by Phil M (Post 2183558)
seems like yesterday !

Phil M

Those really were the good old days !

LS

lucky strike 07-01-2007 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by Kims (Post 2183542)
I know it is off the subject, but I just love that towing vehicle. Reminds me of the good old days...:D

That Caddy towed better than most trucks..: :eek:

After paying for a boat & trailer who had $ for a truck :D

LS

lilabner 07-03-2007 08:26 PM

My Moppie
 
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This boat had 2 700hp Holman Moody's..one in the front on a z drive and one in the rear on a V drive..It ran about 75, which was the norm in the late 60's..and rode like a Caddy..

Top Banana 07-03-2007 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by lilabner (Post 2186713)
This boat had 2 700hp Holman Moody's..one in the front on a z drive and one in the rear on a V drive..It ran about 75, which was the norm in the late 60's..and rode like a Caddy..


Welcome lilabner....nice first post. If you have more photos of that boat we would like to have them posted on HORBA

www.historicraceboats.com

lilabner 07-04-2007 10:50 PM

I think that is the best one..my wife took them because I was in the boat with Richard B..I worked for Holman Moody and took over when Jim Manders left Bertram..It was at the St Pete race in 68 or 69..the slide was developed in Feb 69..I will post it there also..

Butch Stokes

Black Tornado 07-07-2007 02:01 AM


Originally Posted by lilabner (Post 2187634)
I think that is the best one..my wife took them because I was in the boat with Richard B..I worked for Holman Moody and took over when Jim Manders left Bertram..It was at the St Pete race in 68 or 69..the slide was developed in Feb 69..I will post it there also..

Butch Stokes

I think this was the last offshore race boat that Richard Bertram drove.

It was the first 31'Competition built together with the Master Moppie of Rittmaster in 1967.
What end has it made that boat then?

Black Tornado 07-07-2007 02:25 AM


Originally Posted by lilabner (Post 2187634)
I think that is the best one..my wife took them because I was in the boat with Richard B..I worked for Holman Moody and took over when Jim Manders left Bertram..It was at the St Pete race in 68 or 69..the slide was developed in Feb 69..I will post it there also..

Butch Stokes

I think was the last offshore race boat that Bertram drove.
It was the first 31'Special built together with the Master Moppie of Rittmaster in 1967.
What end has it made that boat then?

Black Tornado 07-07-2007 02:51 AM

Here at the start of the Bahamas 500 in 1969.

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7...hamas69lw6.gif
Shot at 2007-07-07

Black Tornado 07-07-2007 02:58 AM

And here the two sister boats,My Moppie #8 and Master Moppie #15,at Lucaya's docks before the first edition of the legendary "500" in 1967.

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/9...rtram31tc7.gif

BUIZILLA 07-07-2007 08:27 AM

I seem to remember a guy down here, Ralph Boaldt maybe??, that had a Bertram like this for private use, and never raced it?? 74-77ish era??

lilabner 07-08-2007 08:36 PM

Ralph Boalt is deceased..he was a good friend of mine..

BUIZILLA 07-08-2007 08:46 PM

I didn't know that, he married my niece's best friend and neighbor.... care to share the details??

thescooter 09-24-2007 04:15 PM

bertram baron
 

Originally Posted by HiPerf2000 (Post 2180223)
A friend of mine has one. I believe its a 1970.

it is a bertram baron, that is me in the pic it is my boat, 1970 bertram baron 28' 8'beam twin holman moody 302 fords with 351 heads. volvo 250 outdrive scounter rotation in. the scooter:ernaehrung004: [email protected]

MOBILEMERCMAN 09-24-2007 04:27 PM

thescooter, nice ride, do you still own it? Nice first post. Welcome...
Lucky Strike, Caddy is a convertible I see, makes one Hell of a cool tow vehicle, Cant find that anymore. Good old days for sure.
Jim

lucky strike 09-24-2007 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by MOBILEMERCMAN (Post 2282876)
Lucky Strike, Caddy is a convertible I see, makes one Hell of a cool tow vehicle, Cant find that anymore. Good old days for sure.
Jim

Jim........The old Caddy rag tops were great rides. Wish I still had it.

spectras only 09-24-2007 11:44 PM

I had a 66 Caddy Coupe DeVille with factory airbags . Wasn't the best tow vehicle with its rear coil suspension . That boat in the picture was way to big for the Caddy's 5000 lbs tow capacity .On the other hand my 64 Lincoln was more suitable for towing with its rear leaf spring suspension.
http://www3.telus.net/spectrasonly/6....76Spectra.jpg
http://www3.telus.net/spectrasonly/L...064%20rear.jpg
Back in the 60's people towed trailers way over weight what these passenger cars were made for. There was an ad showing a FWD Olds Toronado with one of the rear wheels removed , towing a travel trailer to show off its capability . No one in his right mind would tow a boat with a FWD with all wheels on today, hehe.
BTW , there is a nice old sporty 25 Bertram locally here that I see on and off busting waves like no other.Wonder who has this oldie if in fact it's still around at all .
http://www3.telus.net/spectrasonly/3...m%20Moppie.jpg

spectras only 09-25-2007 01:05 AM

here are two boats from England . On the right is a wood hull by Workboats , the one on the left is a GRP raceboat by Tolcraft .

http://www3.telus.net/spectrasonly/G...20Tolcraft.jpg

7xchamp 09-25-2007 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by Black Tornado (Post 2189650)
Here at the start of the Bahamas 500 in 1969.

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7...hamas69lw6.gif
Shot at 2007-07-07

Hi Marco: Been a long time, how are you?? The race boat 505 is me in the back, how do I look??? Gene Wagner was the driver and I was co-driver. One of the factory boats from Lake X I was 19 yrs. old. Nice picture. 7XCHAMP

7xchamp 09-25-2007 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by 7xchamp (Post 2283747)
Hi Marco: Been a long time, how are you?? The race boat 505 is me in the back, how do I look??? Gene Wagner was the driver and I was co-driver. One of the factory boats from Lake X I was 19 yrs. old. Nice picture. 7XCHAMP

I just viewed the # 505 boat pictured, and now am not sure if that is the boat I was in, as the name on the back is Super BP
Could be Steve Sirois??????????????? anyway I was in all the Bahama 500`s and won two of the later ones. One with Bonomi in 1974 and one with Gentry 1976, they were 500 kilometers long. Great races. 7XCHAMP

7xchamp 09-25-2007 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by lilabner (Post 2190820)
Ralph Boalt is deceased..he was a good friend of mine..

I can not believe Ralph Boalt passed away, I really liked that guy, we were pretty close with always trying to put some sort of deal together. I worked with him when he was with Jerry Rossi of Target trailer, we were the first to start building tricked out trailers. He will be missed, he was so young. Condolences to the family. 7XCHAMP

seeroy 09-25-2007 12:21 PM

Richie - Dale Thayer ran #505 (28' Memco w/4 BPs) in 1969 Bahama 500. He finished 1st outboard. I ran #909 (32 Cary w/4 BPs). However, I did run the #505 later that year in another race (Sam Griffth?) and finished 1st Outboard.
-Steve Sirois

THE BULL 09-25-2007 12:43 PM

Wow! I just saw the Outlaw 28 (pic by H20) That was my old boat .......where is it these days?? That was a splash from the old bertram 28......boat was a beast for a 28!

Black Tornado 09-25-2007 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by 7xchamp (Post 2283763)
I just viewed the # 505 boat pictured, and now am not sure if that is the boat I was in, as the name on the back is Super BP
Could be Steve Sirois??????????????? anyway I was in all the Bahama 500`s and won two of the later ones. One with Bonomi in 1974 and one with Gentry 1976, they were 500 kilometers long. Great races. 7XCHAMP

Hi Richie! Everything well. And I also hope for you!
If you surely were not in 505 you can see yourself on the 9 of Bonomi to the 1973 CTC, that of the turns in round because you was without steering.
Have you still gone to see the new films of Graham Stevens on Boatmad.com?

Marco

Black Tornado 09-25-2007 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by seeroy (Post 2284035)
Richie - Dale Thayer ran #505 (28' Memco w/4 BPs) in 1969 Bahama 500. He finished 1st outboard. I ran #909 (32 Cary w/4 BPs). However, I did run the #505 later that year in another race (Sam Griffth?) and finished 1st Outboard.
-Steve Sirois

Hi Steve,
Does something remember instead of that Bertram Mona Lou #70 on the back ground of the photo?
Was it the formerSternwinder?

Marco

crf311 05-02-2008 12:42 PM

I have one of these Bertram Barron's behind my shop right now. It came with 2 454 Chevy motors with some big azz out drives that I have not seen before. They are merc though.

nocigarette 05-02-2008 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by crf311 (Post 2545807)
I have one of these Bertram Barron's behind my shop right now. It came with 2 454 Chevy motors with some big azz out drives that I have not seen before. They are merc though.

Where are ya from and due ya have any pics (recent)

dyacht 09-29-2010 01:46 PM

It's a 28 Baron.


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