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MikeyFIN 08-30-2009 03:12 AM


Originally Posted by littlenige (Post 2931710)
I never saw Jesse James in the flesh, but it sure looked like the most beautiful cat ever built - with or without the canopies.

+1.

It Defined raceboat right there... and can take on any Apache41 :angry-smiley-038:

2/stroke 09-05-2009 05:51 PM

i think jessie is still in new zealand,i saw it some 10 years ago still original and ready to race

T2x 09-08-2009 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by 2/stroke (Post 2947076)
i think jessie is still in new zealand,i saw it some 10 years ago still original and ready to race

No...sorry...you're talking about the 30' Chris Cat. The one in the picture is the 35' Conquest.

T2x

greencard 09-18-2009 06:02 PM

I too love that Conquest JJ shot. Does anyone know if there are any left or how many they made???? It sure would make a cool resto project:drink:

justincasey57 09-19-2009 10:09 AM

Not sure if this fits the topic. But I figurged I could post it. I'm proud of it.its a 1991 24ft Thundercat.http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...hundercat1.jpg

yahoo 09-19-2009 08:17 PM

Without a doubt the last Jessie James.

Way ahead of its time.

sunchaser796 09-19-2009 10:24 PM

Don't forget about the old power play stepped hull cat

SpeedDoc 09-20-2009 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by sunchaser796 (Post 2956417)
Don't forget about the old power play stepped hull cat


Which one? The 32' Cougar?

T2x 09-21-2009 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by greencard (Post 2955842)
I too love that Conquest JJ shot. Does anyone know if there are any left or how many they made???? It sure would make a cool resto project:drink:

We made two...the first JJ and a copy for Stu Hayim. Both are rotting in Japan.

Those were the only two identical boats that Conquest ever made. Every other hull was a unique one-off.

T2x

T2x 09-21-2009 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by yahoo (Post 2956357)
Without a doubt the last Jessie James.

Way ahead of its time.

The last Jesse James was the 48 footer not the 36 footer.

T2x

wannabe 09-23-2009 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by T2x (Post 2957100)
We made two...the first JJ and a copy for Stu Hayim. Both are rotting in Japan.

Those were the only two identical boats that Conquest ever made. Every other hull was a unique one-off.

T2x

Are there any 35 ft Conquests in the US left?

Wannabe

Martin W 09-23-2009 12:49 PM

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How about this one when she was a racer - driven by Geoff Purves, used to be mine - sold her last year

AO31 09-23-2009 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by justincasey57 (Post 2956174)
Not sure if this fits the topic. But I figurged I could post it. I'm proud of it.its a 1991 24ft Thundercat.http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...hundercat1.jpg

I often wondered if that bottom was of Malestrom descent. Good looking ride Justin.

Gladhe8er 09-25-2009 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by T2x (Post 2957128)
The last Jesse James was the 48 footer not the 36 footer.

T2x

I found some pics of me standing next to it on its tilt tralier the other day. I gotta scan them in. I look about 12 years old in the pics, so it was probably close to 20 years ago.

Rik 09-25-2009 11:05 AM

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The Original Superboat

T2x 09-25-2009 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by wannabe (Post 2958850)
Are there any 35 ft Conquests in the US left?

Wannabe

no

T2x 09-25-2009 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by Rik (Post 2960414)
The Original Superboat

I'm not certain, but I believe the Aluminum Popeye's Cougar was the first functioning Superboat on the race course. I don't know when Gentry had the wooden hull built....or the aluminum version, but it was probably shortly after the Popeye's. In any case Copeland got on the race course first.

Brownie?

T2x

Rik 09-27-2009 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by T2x (Post 2960520)
I'm not certain, but I believe the Aluminum Popeye's Cougar was the first functioning Superboat on the race course. I don't know when Gentry had the wooden hull built....or the aluminum version, but it was probably shortly after the Popeye's. In any case Copeland got on the race course first.

Brownie?

T2x

Construction was started on this one before Copelands was started. The Aluminum ones had a shorter build time.

Gentry purchased this boat.

Photophix 10-27-2009 07:36 PM

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/7476/79lsv1o1.jpg

Lanier Motorsport 02-17-2010 12:59 AM


Originally Posted by ironhead (Post 2902185)
yellowdrama turned into limit up to benehana to el duro then to the impound (last owner i think had a mystery income) the larger couar( 44 +-') was yellowdrama to satisfaction to popeyes to stiletto to fire wood i think im close?

Ok the 38 wast yellow drama then Benihana,then Satisfaction,then Al duro..Mid Ocean told me that when he bought it it was 70% rotten and eventualy went to the Dump...the 41 ft. was Satisfaction -Popeyes-Stiletto...then was in an accident on the highway and destroyed....

PURPLE HORNET 02-17-2010 01:45 AM

1960 Powercat 14C Twin 75hp flying Scotts

http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/o...ckmate/62a.jpg

http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/o...ower_cat_1.jpg

T2x 02-17-2010 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by PURPLE HORNET (Post 3048361)
1960 Powercat 14C Twin 75hp flying Scotts

I believe we have a winner...........

Velocity Vector 02-17-2010 03:17 PM

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AL Kropp and Jim Ariloa were owners/operators of this boat. "KAT" = "Kropp Ariloa Team" back in 1988/89 or so. They were from the Chicago area.

I bought this white 1995 35' Ocean Express for my next project.

lucky strike 02-18-2010 05:19 PM

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Old school

OL40SVX 02-18-2010 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by T2x (Post 3048424)
I believe we have a winner...........

but shouldn't the real winner have 2 "tower of power" Merc's???

at least T2x knows what I am taking about!!!!

AO31 02-18-2010 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by Velocity Vector (Post 3048773)
AL Kropp and Jim Ariloa were owners/operators of this boat. "KAT" = "Kropp Ariloa Team" back in 1988/89 or so. They were from the Chicago area.

I bought this white 1995 35' Ocean Express for my next project.

VV I had an old vid with those guys really crankin it out and pushing the Chairman of the Board. That was a hot ride!

swerv0 02-18-2010 11:04 PM


Originally Posted by Velocity Vector (Post 3048773)
AL Kropp and Jim Ariloa were owners/operators of this boat. "KAT" = "Kropp Ariloa Team" back in 1988/89 or so. They were from the Chicago area.

I bought this white 1995 35' Ocean Express for my next project.

I remember that boat when they first got it. would love to see any of the boats from that area from back in the 80s, like al's RAMBO or beast, savage, billy the kid, the dealer and so on

stainless 02-19-2010 04:53 AM


Originally Posted by T2x (Post 2911395)
how about?

I saw Jesse James while at the docks in Greenwich CT in 1985 or 1986(?) at an NPBA race. That's what got me into Cats! :ernaehrung004:

Crash-Box 02-19-2010 06:34 AM

[QUOTE=Velocity Vector;3048773]AL Kropp and Jim Ariloa were owners/operators of this boat. "KAT" = "Kropp Ariloa Team" back in 1988/89 or so. They were from the Chicago area.

V.V.,

Did "KAT" then race later on as "BFI Systems" ?

C.B.

T2x 02-19-2010 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by fountain40icbm (Post 3049754)
but shouldn't the real winner have 2 "tower of power" Merc's???

at least T2x knows what I am taking about!!!!

Screw the power...I'm talking about the boat. It's truly old school and beautifully restored. I had one of those 14's as well as a 15 footer back in the day. As a result of those great years, I searched for and found another 15 a few years ago. These boats are the real "Icons". All of the Offshore cats that followed (including our Shadows and Conquests), owe everything to the Powercats, Switzers, Craigs, and Stylecrafts that blazed the trail and proved the superiority of multihulls in choppy conditions. I'm simply honest enough to admit it. We started the Shadow Cat project strictly because of our own experiences racing with and against cats and tunnel hulls in prior years on marathon OPC race courses.

I can tell you straight up if you gave me almost any of the mid 80's Offshore cats today.....I'd probably give it back. (with the exception of a couple of Conquests of course... and just about any Skater:p)

T2x 02-19-2010 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by stainless (Post 3050113)
I saw Jesse James while at the docks in Greenwich CT in 1985 or 1986(?) at an NPBA race. That's what got me into Cats! :ernaehrung004:

You saw it there in 1986 or 1987, those were the only two years that she ran in that event. That hull inspired a lot of people it seems......

ViciousOne 02-22-2010 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by Velocity Vector (Post 3048773)
AL Kropp and Jim Ariloa were owners/operators of this boat. "KAT" = "Kropp Ariloa Team" back in 1988/89 or so. They were from the Chicago area.

I bought this white 1995 35' Ocean Express for my next project.

If that one was really built in the 90's it would have been built for the Late Randy Lienbach that died a few years back testing his MTI . The boat was never picked up there was a fued between my old boss Ross and Randy and it was still sitting around the shop when I left in the spring of 2000. The 35' race was the 33' race with a set of falseies added after the fact for ruleing at the time. That was one of there best working hulls .

Evolution 03-06-2010 05:59 AM

Anybody know who built the first offshore cat in america???????

ViciousOne 03-06-2010 06:49 AM

I know Active Marine (AKA Express marine AKA Ocean Express) always boasted that he built the first all composite offshore race catamaran which was built in the late 70's in Algonac Mi. just down the street from the oringinal Chris craft plant. When I worked for Ross at Express I tell you there was some great stories he used to tell of back in the day.

dammmagnum 03-07-2010 12:57 AM


Originally Posted by Evolution (Post 3060848)
Anybody know who built the first offshore cat in america???????

Didn't Betty Cook's husband Paul Cook have Ron Jones build a tunnel Hull for him in the early 70s? It was called Kudu. Don't think it did to well back then. Raced a few times.


Thank you
Jim

T2x 03-08-2010 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by Evolution (Post 3060848)
Anybody know who built the first offshore cat in america???????

The earliest offshore races( early 60's)featured Powercat and Ted (Ron Jones' father) Jones hulls.......... just a little bigger than the one shown above in this thread.

The "Kudu"....designed and built by Ron Jones was the first "full size" U.S. offshore cat.....

Ross Focht, Alan Brown, and us (Shadow) all debuted our composite cats at about the same time (1980)....... The first two featured English Cougar licensed designs.....ours was 100% American. In any event....none of us was "first" as the fiberglass Powercats were 20 years earlier.

T2x

h2oboater 03-08-2010 10:39 AM

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Ross Focht, Alan Brown, and us (Shadow) all debuted our composite cats at about the same time (1980)....... The first two featured English Cougar licensed designs.....ours was 100% American. In any event....none of us was "first" as the fiberglass Powercats were 20 years earlier.

T2x[/QUOTE]

Living on Lake St Clair I was able to see the Active cats evolve. I believe Butch Rayns Express was the first Active cat in 1979,1980 . Here on the lake she was known as the wooden shoes, because it wasnt very fast. By 1980 Ross went with the Cougar designs that worked, I believe the black 33' one was the first one to race by Gary Stewe in Sport class. This Active later became Bob Kehrigs [M-588 COUGAR, & M -17Magic] that won the Key West Worlds in 1983.
T2x was the Black Duck the first Shadow to race, or was it Love It ???

T2x 03-08-2010 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by h2oboater (Post 3062534)
Ross Focht, Alan Brown, and us (Shadow) all debuted our composite cats at about the same time (1980)....... The first two featured English Cougar licensed designs.....ours was 100% American. In any event....none of us was "first" as the fiberglass Powercats were 20 years earlier.

T2x


Living on Lake St Clair I was able to see the Active cats evolve. I believe Butch Rayns Express was the first Active cat in 1979,1980 . Here on the lake she was known as the wooden shoes, because it wasnt very fast. By 1980 Ross went with the Cougar designs that worked, I believe the black 33' one was the first one to race by Gary Stewe in Sport class. This Active later became Bob Kehrigs [M-588 COUGAR, & M -17Magic] that won the Key West Worlds in 1983.
T2x was the Black Duck the first Shadow to race, or was it Love It ???

The first Shadow to race was mine...... "Shadow Cat" in 1980. Shortly after that the first Black Duck debuted along with "Erickson Racing" and "Luv-it". Then the avalanche followed in 1981. Butch Ryan can say for sure, but I don't think his boat was the first Active cat. There was an open boat (a 38 footer i think) with "Cougar" emblazoned on the sides that ran in 1981. I think that was the first Active Cat.

butch ryan 03-08-2010 09:58 PM

Active Cats
 

Originally Posted by T2x (Post 3062627)
The first Shadow to race was mine...... "Shadow Cat" in 1980. Shortly after that the first Black Duck debuted along with "Erickson Racing" and "Luv-it". Then the avalanche followed in 1981. Butch Ryan can say for sure, but I don't think his boat was the first Active cat. There was an open boat (a 38 footer i think) with "Cougar" emblazoned on the sides that ran in 1981. I think that was the first Active Cat.

ROSS BUILT THE FIRST 33 FOR BUDD DRETTMAN, THE OWNER OF ACTIVE TOOL AND MARINE. BUDD AND ROSS RAN IT FOR A YEAR. I BOUGHT IT AND PUT MY TURBO MOTORS IN IT TO SEE HOW THEY WOULD PERFORM. THE BOAT WAS HEAVY AND HAD A VERY NARROW TUNNEL SIMILAR TO THE LATER CIGARETTE CATS. ROSS BUILT A NEW KEVLAR GRAPHITE CAT WHICH I BOUGHT , SWITCHED ENGINES AND THE REST IS HISTORY , THE BLACK COUGAR WAS BOB KEHRIGS CAT.

7xchamp 03-13-2010 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by Evolution (Post 3060848)
Anybody know who built the first offshore cat in america???????

I believe it was a guy by the name of Hugh Doyle, and believe it was 30` something feet, Built in Osperey Fla. I would say it was 1964 ?????? Was built in collaboration with Kiekhaefer. Power I think was a pair of Mercruiser 427`s I forget who the designated driver was, but I do know that Odell Lewis was slated to drive it. Maybe Brownie will know about it as well. It was very top secret at the time, I was 19 yrs old and a Mercury test driver in Sarasota, we used to stop and watch the progress, at the time it seemed huge and mean.


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