Thanks Brownie but I had understood even though it took me some minutes.
But apart your problems of underestimated solved in 1947 you still do not have answered if the word Maltese also stemmed from a Bogart movie....

Do You have any info on the 69's? I have a 27 Sport that my paperwork shows a 1969 Magnum, hull 1227, power on th etitle says a pair of small block Holman Moodys that have since been replaced. The drives were also changed to TRS's.

Any info would be appreciated.

Brownie,

Thank you! My boat was built for a George Butler, owner of Butler Aviation and a long list of car dealerships in the Boston area. He lived on Marblehead Neck . . . Bud, if you are reading this it would be nice to know if his name is on the records.

I just need to figure out how long it is . . .:drink:

Mario...I'll e-mail you the list....no "Butler" but there are some blank pots and other names that you may recognize?...do you have a list of the dealerships?....there seem to be a few.

-Aaron

Where did you get the number [1227] ? If you look inside the dash and it says 12 wrote in black marker then it would be hull #12. Hull # 12 went to J Katz back in 1968. The hull numbers did not go on the transom till around 1972. What color is your sport, purple & white ?

Aaron, Lots of blanks :eek: in numbers 1 to 30. But I found my two Mags though.

Gents,
Good Morning from Germany!
Actually there was nothing strange at all rearding the name of the 35 Magnum, to be called the "Dreadnought".
My father was English, my great girlfriend is English, I was an American air cadet to seek enlistment to the RAF, and my family is Navy from back to the 1930's. I had just acquired the Magnum 35 from Don, and the Bahamas 500 was created for the following season, just a few months away. This was to be the most formidable sea race imagined, for civilians, in small open hi-performance craft, and there was a daunting vision of all that could happen out to sea, at that time. So I decided I wanted the Man o' War name for my ship..which was the largest raceboat in the American fleet at the time,......so that was how the name of the famous British battleship from early in the 20th Century came to pass for the Magnum. In that boat, we feard nothing at sea.........we carried spare v-drives for the race..........I remember that night, after pulling into Lucaya , after Odell and Sirois had finished first and second, and then checking out the forward stowage space.......the perfect form of the two Casale v-500 drives had cut thru the sole deck, leaving the perfect shape of them as a lasting memory of the pounding of those 15 hrs 13 minutes that caused me to lose 7 lbs of water from my body in the foul-weather suit I was wearing. I had to use safety pins to hold up my trousers at the Award dinner the following night. It was the toughest physical experience of my life...........and one of the most memorable after 43 years.
Great stories from all of you. I will visit England in a week or two to discuss with Mike of COPCO, the upcoming races.....

Additionally the Dreadnaught was redesigned by Barcone Marine into a center open sportfiserman with a tuna tower by Pipewelders. The forward stowage space was converted into a fine forward cabin with basic requirements for overnighters if one wished. The boat was repowered with twin 427 cu in Crusaders @ 350 hp and continued to be a top performer.

Charley,
when are we hearing from the Irish about the Round Ireland.......June is coming fast now!

Dreadnought
 

Thanks Barry for sharing your experiences.Good eh!

I do so hope you make it to Cowes.The sight of two Jim Wynne classics (Ghost Rider 28FT and Gee 40FT) roaring down the Solent together would be quite something.

As regards Maltese and other Med names, they were meaningless as far as I know. In the early days, we made national flags for the Donzi boats, and some of the Magnums. Malta and Corsica editions were the best looking.

I also thank you for sharing of memory.
The history of the name of a boat is one of the things that fascinates me most.
We have no other information besides the 1967 Bahamas 500 for Dreadnought .
Have you no more compete again with that boat?
Know if he is still alive today?
The boat had sides colored black and what color was the 'ribbon' that surrounded the boat fwd the cockpit?

I understand Brownie.
Maybe Malta as Corsica to Don reminded his first tour in the Mediterranean in 1965 and perhaps those names opened more doors of the European market for its boats.

Magnum Name
 

Here`s one to wrestle with Marco.

1968 - Magnum 26 - 3 x Mercury (375hp) -Driver - D.Shaw.

Boat Name - WOOLY BOOGER

A 26ft Magnum? It`s enough to hijack this thread!

I`ll clear off now.

My 1973 Sport didn't have transom numbers, it was written with black marker inside the dash. So the transom numbers started some time in 73 or 74?
My Sport was purple and white.

Thank you
Jim

Jim,

If you recall, can you share precisely where under the dash your hull number was written? The same style of hull ID was done by Donzi, and on Donzi.net we've found that all old boats are numbered in the same place.

My 1968 was repainted, everywhere except below deck, and this includes the area under the dash and where the instruments are. Fortunately the wiring was removed prior to all of this . . I'd like to clean off the paint and hopefully find a hull ID.

TIA!!!

1227 was on the title. Not sure where the number came from. The boat was originally light blue gel coat, painted several times the last being maroon. We stripped it back to gel and painted it white.

The hull number would be in the dash pod? I'll have to take a look.

Mario,

Mine was written inside of the the dash module. don't remember if it was the front surface or the surface against the cabin balkhead.
I think it was on the front surface,, but not sure
Hope this helps

Thank you
Jim

My 73 Sedan was built 5-31-1973 that has transom hull #, and it's under the dash.

Barry....passsed on your conflict with your medical show in Europe on the same dates of the race.

Of the three original boats scheduled, none are going...however we do have a 50 foot with diesels that will be watertested next week and just waiting for shipping info...dates and shipping line.

Brownie, it has been fun and very informative ready the threads you have posted.

I am seeking some, any, information and pictures about the 27' Magnum Sport I have owned since the early 90s. It was issued a serial by Nevada in 1990 as a Magnum 28, it is still called "The Boss", Lee Holman of Holman-Moody say it was his fathers boat and it was kept in Long Beach at the Bill Stroppe (H-M West) for the West Coast Races. It has fresh H-M Boss 351s and race modified Volvo 270 w 145:1 drives and Lee says these are the 351 H.P. endurance motors of 1970-1 (he said they only made about 50 of these engines?). Lee said this was one of a few hulls given to H-M to zero an open invoice for engines sold to Don A?

I have taped it and I get 27' 7" including the rub-rail. It has only a thin foam pad on the four 60 gallon aluminum fuel tanks, all under the deck. and the deck is exactly like the "Anaconda" and it is painted the same as well. The deck appears to be thin layers of fiberglass separated a half inch by honey-combed Nomex? It is equipped with 4" docking lights and minimal creature comforts. I weighed this boat and the two axle trailer it came with and it was 6100# the trailer was 1200# so this is a very light boat...?

I hope you know what year/serial it might be as I cannot find much on it and H-M does not have much either.

I am restoring this boat and would like to have the info the do a good restoration...I will put the turbines that I considered for this hull and mentioned elsewhere in another hull.

Delta5 702-369-1966 [email protected]

cool engine,Buzzer:drink:

Glad to hear you're putting the H&Ms back in it...that's a cool boat with some unique history.

28' single engine
 

Sorry guys but backing to the thread and the 28' single engine to compare these two photos dismantle the argument that Aronow in 1968 changed the deck of the boat and with it won the Hennessy Cup, the same race which had long dueled with Odell Lewis the year before.
Probably Hugh Holmes should be the current owner of that 28' was misled by the caption of the photo that I believe is published in the famous book that Michael Aronow has dedicated to his father.
The first image is a frame from "Sunward Run" in 1967 where Don Aronow and Knocky House are in the 28' single engine during the Long Beach-San Francisco race in 1967. The second pic is on "The King of the Thunderboat Row" where is said that during the Long Beach-San Francisco in 1968.
As we can see are two images of the same event: the Long Beach-San Francisco race, 1967.


http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/4...hsfranc67a.jpg

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/786/maltesesingle2.jpg

I went out to check the measurements as I am really puzzeled about all these different hull sizes!! The overall length of 27'7" is a centerline hull measurement includes the exhaust outlets but not the drives. the fiberglass hull is 26'11" including the stainless flat round rub-rail. Nevada called it a length 28' Magnum year unk.

Again the deck looks exactly like the "Anaconda" deck with the compass in front of the Windscreen, the large round hole and the rectangle stainless hatch out front for the anchor.

Delta5

Delta 5...your boat is a 27 Sport.

Re: The Boss. I do not remember that boat. I am sure that Lee is correct. I was GM of Holman Moody Marine in the early 70's, and chief engineer at Magnum from '77 thru '80. Remember that Aronow owned Magnum at least twice,and maybe three times. Anything is possible. Also, when Apeco owned Magnum, they made 27' and 28' models. Only problem? They only had one hull mold! No blocking, no nothing. They put a flat deck on, and called it a 27, and a taller deck and called it a 28'. Remember that the original Schoell boat was exactly 28' 0", and you can interpolate the approximate length as the gunwale got lower and lower.

Brownie,

When you worked for H/M, do you recall doing a short run of Chevrolet 302's for Donzi?

Jeff

Brownie
I had heard that at one time H-M had a huge supply of Volvo Speedmaster Drives and Hi -PO Volvo parts?

Thank you
Jim

I guess "huge" is in the eye of the beholder... They had some. Put a message on here for Lee Holman.