1967-1968 Aronow's boats
03-27-2010, 05:38 PM
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03-27-2010, 08:20 PM
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In 1967 Don Aronow competed in the Swedish offshore race Getingloppet with his white N. 4 Maltese Magnum 27' measuring 27' 4'' with a beam of 7' 10''. Even if only 14 boats started, the race turned out to be a difficult and exiting competition. Don Aronow who aimed more than anyone else to become the world champion hade prior to the race hired a plane and videotaped the many difficult passages on the run. During the start and at the beginning of the race the weather was perfect with a wind speed of only 5 m/sec. But out on the open sea the wind speed increased to 10 - 12 m/sec and one boat due to leakage was ran aground. Gardner crossed the finish line with a superior lead - with an average speed of 41.6 knots. Unfortunately, it turned out that Gardner had rounded one marker, the "Understens beacon" wrong and he was therefore disqualified and the winner was Don Aronow. With three Mercury 1100SS outboard engines Don Aronow had an average speed of 38,9 knots.
Getingloppet Offshore I-II - Record of Champions
Year
Driver
Country
Co-driver/Navigator
Type
Boat/Engine
Average speed
1967
Don Aronov
USA
Norris House/Lennart Ebbekke
Maltese Magnum
Magnum/Mercury
38,9 knots
Don raced only 27s in 67-68 - see below
After the race Tage Boghammar bought the boat and the rights to the white N.4 or as Don always called it the 27. The boat was used by Aronow on several other races after Getingloppet with the final race being
"Cowe - Torquay" where he after the race sold the three Mercury outboard engines and shipped the boat to Gothenburg. The boat was the transported on a trailer by Anders and Tage Boghammar to Lidingö. Tage increased the 27' speedboat to 28' and a new design was given to it to better be suited to Swedish conditions.
03-28-2010, 03:42 AM
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Magnum 27/28
27FT 4INS?
I wonder where that was measured.Stem to transom at Keel or waterline or deck at centre,or transom appendage?
It seems odd that so many entry lists have 28ft for that style of Magnum.I could give you examples of several boats where the length stated isn`t actually measured to any defining point.If the 27ft 4ins is measured to deck at centre at transom,then perhaps its more of a 27ft than a 28ft.What exact measurements are the Magnum 27ft Aronow raced in 1968 to use as a comparison.
I see the Magnum website are using all my racing shots from Boatmad.com. I don`t mind,but if only these people would have the courtesy to ask first.
I wonder where that was measured.Stem to transom at Keel or waterline or deck at centre,or transom appendage?
It seems odd that so many entry lists have 28ft for that style of Magnum.I could give you examples of several boats where the length stated isn`t actually measured to any defining point.If the 27ft 4ins is measured to deck at centre at transom,then perhaps its more of a 27ft than a 28ft.What exact measurements are the Magnum 27ft Aronow raced in 1968 to use as a comparison.
I see the Magnum website are using all my racing shots from Boatmad.com. I don`t mind,but if only these people would have the courtesy to ask first.
03-28-2010, 12:46 PM
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Fling Fish:
On behalf of myself and I would think, all of the others who read these "Classic" threads, thank you for your many generous contributions both in comments and pictures I, for one, really do appreciate your taking the time.
As to the 27-28 question - lets remember - Don designed a 27'4'' beauty in late 66 after having learned how to do so by watching Jim Wynne and Walt Walters design the Donzi 28 and Donzi 35.
Don raced the 1st 35 as it became the Magnum 35 though named "Big Bad Donzi" in honor of Donzi Marine and in order to capitalize on the already known Donzi name as the 35 was not included in Don's sale of the Donzi line in late 65.
In any event, the 27 became his boat of choice and he built and raced numerous versions (deck variations in order to accommodate the numerous and various engine placements) in 67 and 68 as was previously pointed out by Black Tornado, but with the 27 as the hull.
There was only one 27 hull design. One plug and a few molds.
The molds were 27'4''.
Don raced these boats in 67 and 68 and called them the 27.
How this boat ever became known as the 28, I have no knowledge but can tell you that even today in 2010, Magnum Marine still owns and uses Don's original 27' hull design. Magnum does not call it the 28.
As to Magnum Marine using your pics, it is not worth getting worked up.
Take it as a compliment.
Best regards,
PJ
On behalf of myself and I would think, all of the others who read these "Classic" threads, thank you for your many generous contributions both in comments and pictures I, for one, really do appreciate your taking the time.
As to the 27-28 question - lets remember - Don designed a 27'4'' beauty in late 66 after having learned how to do so by watching Jim Wynne and Walt Walters design the Donzi 28 and Donzi 35.
Don raced the 1st 35 as it became the Magnum 35 though named "Big Bad Donzi" in honor of Donzi Marine and in order to capitalize on the already known Donzi name as the 35 was not included in Don's sale of the Donzi line in late 65.
In any event, the 27 became his boat of choice and he built and raced numerous versions (deck variations in order to accommodate the numerous and various engine placements) in 67 and 68 as was previously pointed out by Black Tornado, but with the 27 as the hull.
There was only one 27 hull design. One plug and a few molds.
The molds were 27'4''.
Don raced these boats in 67 and 68 and called them the 27.
How this boat ever became known as the 28, I have no knowledge but can tell you that even today in 2010, Magnum Marine still owns and uses Don's original 27' hull design. Magnum does not call it the 28.
As to Magnum Marine using your pics, it is not worth getting worked up.
Take it as a compliment.
Best regards,
PJ
03-28-2010, 04:36 PM
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28' or not 28';that is the question
Well now we agree on the exact size of those who we continue to call conventionally 28'.
In a time I defend the category of journalists, saying that if them around the world always have written 28' is due to the fact that Aronow when enrolled his boats in the races in 1967 he wrote 28 'or when he was interviewed he said 28'.
Clearly this remains to know the real size of the others 27'. Those that Magnum Marine continued to build after Aronow and that we know as 27 'Sport of the Seventies.
Do not say that they are equal to 27' aka 28 '. The hull is the same. The rest absolutely not.
Different in the sides, cut at the gunwale (so shortened?) And with different decks.
So those 27' of the 1968 were 26'and ....
As is clearly seen in comparative photos (28 ', 27' of Aronow and 27' Sport) below.
The 28'
The 27'
The 27' Sport
In a time I defend the category of journalists, saying that if them around the world always have written 28' is due to the fact that Aronow when enrolled his boats in the races in 1967 he wrote 28 'or when he was interviewed he said 28'.
Clearly this remains to know the real size of the others 27'. Those that Magnum Marine continued to build after Aronow and that we know as 27 'Sport of the Seventies.
Do not say that they are equal to 27' aka 28 '. The hull is the same. The rest absolutely not.
Different in the sides, cut at the gunwale (so shortened?) And with different decks.
So those 27' of the 1968 were 26'and ....
As is clearly seen in comparative photos (28 ', 27' of Aronow and 27' Sport) below.
The 28'
The 27'
The 27' Sport
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03-28-2010, 06:45 PM
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As to Magnum Marine using your pics, it is not worth getting worked up.
Take it as a compliment.
I expect a well known Offshore film maker of the 80`s also takes it as a compliment when he sees his films on Youtube.
Back to the topic in hand.
Marco has beaten me to it.The Cowes Torquay 71 programme lists the Magnum 27 Sedan boat `Snoopy` as 27ft and the Kennerly `Maltese Magnum Twin as 28ft.
The book `The King of Thunderboat Row` indicates on page 62,that the 1967 Magnum was actually 27ft 8ins.
If you cut that freeboard down for the 1968 boat and get rid of that large cambered deck,then no doubt you could loose another 4in.Hence a Magnum 28 is 27ft 8in and a Magnum 27 is 27ft 4in.
Take it as a compliment.
I expect a well known Offshore film maker of the 80`s also takes it as a compliment when he sees his films on Youtube.
Back to the topic in hand.
Marco has beaten me to it.The Cowes Torquay 71 programme lists the Magnum 27 Sedan boat `Snoopy` as 27ft and the Kennerly `Maltese Magnum Twin as 28ft.
The book `The King of Thunderboat Row` indicates on page 62,that the 1967 Magnum was actually 27ft 8ins.
If you cut that freeboard down for the 1968 boat and get rid of that large cambered deck,then no doubt you could loose another 4in.Hence a Magnum 28 is 27ft 8in and a Magnum 27 is 27ft 4in.
Last edited by flying fish; 03-28-2010 at 06:50 PM.
