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dhk coatings 02-28-2012 08:32 AM

thanks guys. i will concentrate on the finishing touches of my cobalt rebuild.

dhk coatings 03-07-2012 02:12 AM

the fellow email me some pictures. if someone wants to post em for me for all to see i can forward the email. i have only the basic membership and cant post pictures. so.......

dhk coatings 03-07-2012 06:26 PM

guys? the fellow said hed like to trade for my twin engine cobalt. he said i could have take the 5.7l engines out of the boat and hed be interested in the hull only. what do you think. found a pair of trs drives for 3000. he sad very little glass work is involved in order to switch to bravos?

Powerquest_Baby!! 03-07-2012 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by dhk coatings (Post 3635898)
guys? the fellow said hed like to trade for my twin engine cobalt. he said i could have take the 5.7l engines out of the boat and hed be interested in the hull only. what do you think. found a pair of trs drives for 3000. he sad very little glass work is involved in order to switch to bravos?

Its not just the glasswork for the drives but you also need to move the engines forward to accomodate for the transmissions which you need with the trs. Its a pretty big job and that can affect the handling of the boat!

dereknkathy 03-07-2012 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by Powerquest_Baby!! (Post 3635981)
Its not just the glasswork for the drives but you also need to move the engines forward to accomodate for the transmissions which you need with the trs. Its a pretty big job and that can affect the handling of the boat!

no, he is talking about replacing missing TRS's in the Scarab and putting in his 350's. the glasswork was if he converted to Bravos. which IS a lot of glasswork. now, DHK. which boat is worth more, the Cobalt or the Scarab? value as-is and value finished? the Cobalt is a live, mostly together boat? if you can get anywhere near 10k for it as-is, it wouldn't make sense to strip the power and trade it for a 1k to 3k Scarab hull. on the other hand, what drives are in the Cobalt? is the deal off table if you keep gimbals and drives too? i am not saying don't do it. i am saying all the things you need to consider before you do. what does the spousal unit think? i would much rather hear mine complaining cuz i am driving the boat too fast than hear her complaining cuz i traded it for a dead one.

dhk coatings 03-08-2012 09:56 AM

good point. the guy is dam set on putting outboards on either the scarab or the cobalt. cobalt has pre alpha stuff and wondnt fit any way. he just wants the hull, he gave me the number of the guy he sold the 454s and trs stuff to. guy has drive components up for 3000.....

legend 03-09-2012 01:26 AM

WoW! I thought the Rubics Cube was hard to figure out! Any way I rebuilt two 30 Scarabs in my life and miss them both. They both had BBC/TRS and ran good but I think that Bravos would be perfect in a older 30. I would go Scarab..........

dereknkathy 03-09-2012 05:47 AM

there aren't many Cobalts with twins from the pre-Alpha era. 23 or 30 foot? if the guy who has the TRS's from the Scarab is reselling them, you can probably do better than the 3k he wants. does your budget include buying Bravos now? because Bravo, Alpha, pre-Alpha and just about everything that goes into a boat to make the prop spin from 87 on fits the same MERCRUISER keyhole that came from the pre-Alpha. so you can redo the transom and put the pre gimballs in with your 350's. find a couple of craigslist Alpha lower halves (pre-alphas have weak vertical driveshafts. you can snap them with a small block by pushing on the throttle.) and change over to Bravos when the right deal comes along. in a way it will be easier than reinstalling the TRS stuff, because by the time one guy strips it out, and sells it to somebody else and it gets moved around a couple of times, there will be stuff missing. stuff that is coming up on the 20 year anniversary of it's extinct date. so it isn't easy to find.

dereknkathy 03-09-2012 05:50 AM

also, when people see an early Scarab, they say wow! look, an early Scarab! when they see an early Cobalt, they say what's that?

sprink58 03-09-2012 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by dereknkathy (Post 3637052)
there aren't many Cobalts with twins from the pre-Alpha era. 23 or 30 foot? if the guy who has the TRS's from the Scarab is reselling them, you can probably do better than the 3k he wants. does your budget include buying Bravos now? because Bravo, Alpha, pre-Alpha and just about everything that goes into a boat to make the prop spin from 87 on fits the same MERCRUISER keyhole that came from the pre-Alpha. so you can redo the transom and put the pre gimballs in with your 350's. find a couple of craigslist Alpha lower halves (pre-alphas have weak vertical driveshafts. you can snap them with a small block by pushing on the throttle.) and change over to Bravos when the right deal comes along. in a way it will be easier than reinstalling the TRS stuff, because by the time one guy strips it out, and sells it to somebody else and it gets moved around a couple of times, there will be stuff missing. stuff that is coming up on the 20 year anniversary of it's extinct date. so it isn't easy to find.

Very well said...+1


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