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h2oboater 11-30-2012 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by topprop (Post 3823794)
I've not ridden on a 38kv however I think it's tough for any boat smaller in size to outride a bigger one.

The question is how much boat is enough for when and where you want to use it.

I went from a 38 Bertram CS to a 29 Mirage.....a difference that is apples to pineapples compared to these two boats.

The 38 gave me the opportunity to boat almost anytime I wanted on the Lake where I live. A luxury the Mirage doesn't offer me. However the Mirage is much more economical and easier to dock ( without help ). It requires a much smaller tow vehicle to move it around and it much easier to launch.

I think in a comparison it would be tough for the Mistress to out ride the 38 however maybe you don't need the extra 3 feet where you are going to run it?

Both look to be amazing boats, as I've seen the Cig in person and as a very picky guy I can tell you it's extremely nice. Buy the cleaner nicer boat.......take it from a fellow old boat fan the better condition boat is the better buy.

Joe I did the same thing going from a 38' KV to a 29' Mirage, your right much easer to handle & my Mirage was faster with less power than the Scarab. Now that I'm back to a 27' Magnum it's the right hull for me on Lake St Clair. If ever I wanted a larger boat again Jims Lady Of The Lakes Cig would be the boat. Mark

fleg1 11-30-2012 11:23 AM

KV for sure those boats are absolutely beautiful!!! The Mistress is nice also don't get me wrong, but as far as looks and cabin amenities Scarab all the way!!!!!

cigboat1 11-30-2012 12:27 PM

Scarab all the way----- of course I guess I am a little biased on the subject.

Jim

topprop 11-30-2012 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by h2oboater (Post 3823930)
Joe I did the same thing going from a 38' KV to a 29' Mirage, your right much easer to handle & my Mirage was faster with less power than the Scarab. Now that I'm back to a 27' Magnum it's the right hull for me on Lake St Clair. If ever I wanted a larger boat again Jims Lady Of The Lakes Cig would be the boat. Mark

I agree. The Mirage is really fun. I miss the size of the Bertram but the 29 is a fun ride. If I was moving up in size on the pond you and I boat that 35 cig would be perfect.

topprop 11-30-2012 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 3823830)
for sure agree, my mistress is perfect for me, no water keeps me on land, I use it every single weekend and overnight every weekend with my girls and sometimes the 2 dogs...

I know how good the mistress rides, I am told the 38 is basically the same even though its 3 ft longer, I am told the 35 rides better then the 38 Cig, due to COG or somethin g... I have no idea, either way they cant be much different if at all I would assume..I have been on newer stepped 38's, so I cant compare that.. totally different feel overall..

The comment about the nicer boat bein g better.... AMEN.... been there.... sunk WAY too much money into redong my 32 Baja and still was not done...so yes.... go for the better/done boat in my opinion!

I've been on a mistress and my family has had a few TG's.....The gun is a better ride for sure......it's simply bigger and hence better in big stuff.

Full Force 11-30-2012 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by topprop (Post 3824103)
I've been on a mistress and my family has had a few TG's.....The gun is a better ride for sure......it's simply bigger and hence better in big stuff.

My buddy went from a Mistress to a gun and told me opposite, guess it all depends... mistress is one heavy azz 35 I know that, thats one thing I like about it, the water does not shove the boat around at all...

MrSneakAttack 11-30-2012 09:40 PM

Kv

28cigarettess 11-30-2012 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by cigboat1 (Post 3824049)
Scarab all the way----- of course I guess I am a little biased on the subject.

Jim

Ok time to pile on LOLhttp://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...iam/popcrn.gif



One at the dock

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...iver10-12a.jpg

And a pic taken on the first of the 2 happiest days of a boaters life


http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...ourcig2009.jpg

Can't say much about the mistress either way but I do love my little 28 cig too.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...g7-4-11006.jpg


By the way I have become friends with the guy that sold me my Kaama Edition. He was so upset that he sold the boat that 9 months later he went out and bought another one. Here we are out on Barnegat Bay.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...tevescarab.jpg

MrSneakAttack 11-30-2012 10:16 PM

28cig nice setup.........do you flip a coin or how does that work when you are going out on the water for which boat you are going to ride that day?

J-Bonz 11-30-2012 10:57 PM


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 3824118)
My buddy went from a Mistress to a gun and told me opposite, guess it all depends... mistress is one heavy azz 35 I know that, thats one thing I like about it, the water does not shove the boat around at all...

Yup, I was the one that said that.... those two boats are completely different. The gun runs so light in the bow. It needs trim in the rough.... the mistress was a tank.. Not much trim needed. It was not super fast but it was consistent... I could only imagine what an Apache is like.... In 3 to 4' lake Erie slop it ate it up.. The gun needs a little more work to keep it in the water and get that solid ride...... Keep in mind I dont race and am just happy to keep my pants clean when the waves get bigger than 5 to 6's.....


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