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Gonzo426 11-09-2012 01:58 PM

Lil Rhino
 
Does anyone have any pics of Lil Rhino ?...:thankyouthankyou:

h2oboater 11-09-2012 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo426 (Post 3812097)
Does anyone have any pics of Lil Rhino ?...:thankyouthankyou:

Here are a few I have posted before of Kenny & his Lil RHINO Mag & Mirage.

Ratman72 11-10-2012 04:16 PM

I think Bud has got some old pics of the 27' Mag in the water at 188th St.........early 70's......

h2oboater 11-10-2012 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ratman72 (Post 3812701)
I think Bud has got some old pics of the 27' Mag in the water at 188th St.........early 70's......

Here is one that Bud sent me with Kenny & Sandy Black @ there Magnum along with Wally Harpers Lil SMIDGEN Mag. The Donzi Doral in the pic just happens to be the one I have now. :party-smiley-004:

Scott B 11-10-2012 06:18 PM

Cool Doral, what power?

h2oboater 11-10-2012 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott B (Post 3812769)
Cool Doral, what power?

Sorry about the hijack, POWER IS FROM 350cu, 300hp Chevy's & Volvo drives. This Donzi was raced back in 1974 here on Lake St Clair.

Ratman72 11-11-2012 06:03 AM

That's incredible, small world, especially around these boats. I once posted a picture of a '79 Starfire and got talking with the current owner - the boat is still totally original, including the 8 track!!!

Why the interest in Lil Rhino? Is it being restored??

h2oboater 11-11-2012 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ratman72 (Post 3812880)
That's incredible, small world, especially around these boats. I once posted a picture of a '79 Starfire and got talking with the current owner - the boat is still totally original, including the 8 track!!!

Why the interest in Lil Rhino? Is it being restored??

Lil Rhino the Magnum was lost in the Emerald City Harbor Fire around 1975 along with Ken's & Sandy's 28' Bertram Baron Killer. Ken's Mirage became many race boats after her sold it in 1981. Kenny's Jack Roush Ford race engines went into Jerry Girschners Active cat Blue Max :eek:,, the hull became SHOCK WAVE & FINISH LINE,, today ?????

ironhead 11-11-2012 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by h2oboater (Post 3812751)
Here is one that Bud sent me with Kenny & Sandy Black @ there Magnum along with Wally Harpers Lil SMIDGEN Mag. The Donzi Doral in the pic just happens to be the one I have now. :party-smiley-004:

gotta love those trailers of steel in the backround

h2oboater 11-11-2012 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by ironhead (Post 3812928)
gotta love those trailers of steel in the backround

Rob [ironhead] only you would notice them, I never did. :party-smiley-004:

Scott B 11-11-2012 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by ironhead (Post 3812928)
gotta love those trailers of steel in the backround

Where is that taken? If thats 188, down by Magnum I would assume? Trailers probably Atlantic Foundations in that case...


Nice Doral, great to see it still being well taken care of H2o!

topprop 11-12-2012 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by h2oboater (Post 3812923)
Lil Rhino the Magnum was lost in the Emerald City Harbor Fire around 1975 along with Ken's & Sandy's 28' Bertram Baron Killer. Ken's Mirage became many race boats after her sold it in 1981. Kenny's Jack Roush Ford race engines went into Jerry Girschners Active cat Blue Max :eek:,, the hull became SHOCK WAVE & FINISH LINE,, today ?????

Mark do you know where Ken's Mirage is now?

MDonziM 11-12-2012 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ratman72 (Post 3812880)
That's incredible, small world, especially around these boats. I once posted a picture of a '79 Starfire and got talking with the current owner - the boat is still totally original, including the 8 track!!!

Why the interest in Lil Rhino? Is it being restored??

I replaced the 8-trac but its still very original...

Ratman72 11-12-2012 03:51 PM

Hay, nice to hear from you Marshall. Glad to see she looks as good as ever! Hope you and your boat remain well!

Thought you my find these links of interest. They are of my oldmans 1971 '27 sport, finally nearing completion......

All the best.........

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/m...er-detail.html

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/m...71-2012-a.html

Stan Pike 11-12-2012 07:35 PM

I'll have to look as I know I have a bunch of Ken and I going head to head. We raced against each other for years. Inferno vs Lil Rhino.

h2oboater 11-12-2012 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Stan Pike (Post 3813806)
I'll have to look as I know I have a bunch of Ken and I going head to head. We raced against each other for years. Inferno vs Lil Rhino.

Remember this great start.:ernaehrung004:

h2oboater 11-12-2012 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by topprop (Post 3813460)
Mark do you know where Ken's Mirage is now?

Joe I have know idea where it is. I wish I did, back when I sold my pleasure Mirage I might have gone for the Rhino. Mark

topprop 11-13-2012 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by h2oboater (Post 3813887)
Joe I have know idea where it is. I wish I did, back when I sold my pleasure Mirage I might have gone for the Rhino. Mark

From what I was told the Rhino and Wolverine ( Mirages) were produced at the same time.

Both were Kevlar and very light and strong for the day.

I was told the Kevlar Wolverine was scraped after Pete made the jump to open class as it was beyond repair.

As you said earlier Ken's went on the race into the 90's....was that the same boat or did Black have more than one Mirage over the years?

h2oboater 11-13-2012 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by topprop (Post 3814280)
From what I was told the Rhino and Wolverine ( Mirages) were produced at the same time.

Both were Kevlar and very light and strong for the day.

I was told the Kevlar Wolverine was scraped after Pete made the jump to open class as it was beyond repair.

As you said earlier Ken's went on the race into the 90's....was that the same boat or did Black have more than one Mirage over the years?

Kevlar ,,, I dont think so, Joe to early 1976, but was built late 1975. They were hulls # 1 & 2, & # 3 was the La Salle thats still here on the Lake St Clair, OSO member [justbassing] has it & it's a very heavy polyester lay up. My first Mirage was a 1976 that Bob Johson [Eagel trailer] bought new & raced, again heavy polyester glass lay up.
Klym killed the Wolverine Mirage, :picard1::picard1::picard1: tried to stretch it to pull a mold off it & broke it beyond repair. Kenny Black only had one Mirage he sold to Gerry Girschner who only raced it a few time with Red Crain. Jerry stripped it for the powertrain to use in his Active cat Blue Max.

topprop 11-13-2012 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by h2oboater (Post 3814351)
Kevlar ,,, I dont think so, Joe to early 1976, but was built late 1975. They were hulls # 1 & 2, & # 3 was the La Salle thats still here on the Lake St Clair, OSO member [justbassing] has it & it's a very heavy polyester lay up. My first Mirage was a 1976 that Bob Johson [Eagel trailer] bought new & raced, again heavy polyester glass lay up.
Klym killed the Wolverine Mirage, :picard1::picard1::picard1: tried to stretch it to pull a mold off it & broke it beyond repair. Kenny Black only had one Mirage he sold to Gerry Girschner who only raced it a few time with Red Crain. Jerry stripped it for the powertrain to use in his Active cat Blue Max.

Mark,

I always love to hear the real scoop from you.

Regarding the attempted mold do you kow how big a boat he was trying for?

Btw do you know what effect good or bad the big WB tabs made on that hull?

Last question I promise.

h2oboater 11-13-2012 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by topprop (Post 3814526)
Mark,

I always love to hear the real scoop from you.

Regarding the attempted mold do you kow how big a boat he was trying for?

Btw do you know what effect good or bad the big WB tabs made on that hull?

Last question I promise.

Joe,,, Klym wanted around a 31' hull to complement his 27' Magnum copies. He found it in the 31 CC Excalibubr, thats what he took a mold off of with a few deck changes.. :party-smiley-004: My Friend Terry had the LaSalle Mirage back in the 80's with the big WB tabs, I remember him using them a little to much on time & she stuffed. Some said the big tabs worked to good. :eek::eek::eek:

topprop 11-14-2012 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by h2oboater (Post 3814599)
Joe,,, Klym wanted around a 31' hull to complement his 27' Magnum copies. He found it in the 31 CC Excalibubr, thats what he took a mold off of with a few deck changes.. :party-smiley-004: My Friend Terry had the LaSalle Mirage back in the 80's with the big WB tabs, I remember him using them a little to much on time & she stuffed. Some said the big tabs worked to good. :eek::eek::eek:

Good to know. I think we are going to put them on this winter anyway.......then practice extreme caution when dropping them down.

wetdreamoutlaw 11-14-2012 10:43 AM

LiL Abner
 
Has anybody seen or heard about Lil Abner?

topprop 11-14-2012 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by wetdreamoutlaw (Post 3814871)
Has anybody seen or heard about Lil Abner?

The boat is owned by one of the owners of South River Marine in Harrison Twp.

It's in original condition and I think Jerry is planning on running it next year as soon as he is done with some engine work.

Gonzo426 11-14-2012 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by Ratman72 (Post 3812880)
That's incredible, small world, especially around these boats. I once posted a picture of a '79 Starfire and got talking with the current owner - the boat is still totally original, including the 8 track!!!

Why the interest in Lil Rhino? Is it being restored??

Nope, don't own it. Just taking a little trip down memory lane...

h2oboater 11-14-2012 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by topprop (Post 3814886)
The boat is owned by one of the owners of South River Marine in Harrison Twp.

It's in original condition and I think Jerry is planning on running it next year as soon as he is done with some engine work.

It's ruff Joe the bottom was blistered bad the last time I saw it. The owner before Jerry kept it in the water at Millers. That guy came to the first reunion with it, he had electrical issues with it & had to be jumped started. After that I think he just let it sit in the well all summer, when Chip pulled it was lumpy. Before that summer that owner put a lot of money in it repainting the name & numbers on her.
I believe the original owner was Wally Harper [Lil Smidgen] he sold it to Lee Bomar. here are some pic's from that reunion, from the waterline up she looked great. I'm sure Jerry cleaned up the electrical problems but the gel on the bottom was tuff.

topprop 11-15-2012 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by h2oboater (Post 3814957)
It's ruff Joe the bottom was blistered bad the last time I saw it. The owner before Jerry kept it in the water at Millers. That guy came to the first reunion with it, he had electrical issues with it & had to be jumped started. After that I think he just let it sit in the well all summer, when Chip pulled it was lumpy. Before that summer that owner put a lot of money in it repainting the name & numbers on her.
I believe the original owner was Wally Harper [Lil Smidgen] he sold it to Lee Bomar. here are some pic's from that reunion, from the waterline up she looked great. I'm sure Jerry cleaned up the electrical problems but the gel on the bottom was tuff.

I don't disagree with you. She needs some TLC for sure. However Jerry has the skills and resources to make it really nice should he decide to.

Like you I'm a fan of all the old stuff and the people like us who see them as still cool enough to keep around.

So I'm pulling for him to make it nice again.

Kdrkblk214 12-09-2012 06:30 AM

Hey everyone totally new to this and really don't know much about this but the father of my son is Kenny blacks grandson Kenny black jr and my son is Kenny blackIII and jr was wondering if lil think was still around an where? Can someone email me please and give us info raelynnsmomma1011@gmail

Kdrkblk214 12-09-2012 06:47 AM

Lil rhino***** not lil think lol

EDT 10-29-2018 03:09 PM

Hull #1,2 & 3
 

Originally Posted by h2oboater (Post 3814351)
Kevlar ,,, I dont think so, Joe to early 1976, but was built late 1975. They were hulls # 1 & 2, & # 3 was the La Salle thats still here on the Lake St Clair, OSO member [justbassing] has it & it's a very heavy polyester lay up. My first Mirage was a 1976 that Bob Johson [Eagel trailer] bought new & raced, again heavy polyester glass lay up.
Klym killed the Wolverine Mirage, :picard1::picard1::picard1: tried to stretch it to pull a mold off it & broke it beyond repair. Kenny Black only had one Mirage he sold to Gerry Girschner who only raced it a few time with Red Crain. Jerry stripped it for the powertrain to use in his Active cat Blue Max.

h2oboater , If Lil Rhino , Wolverine and La Salle were 1,2 & 3 , how is it that I have # 001 (CDB290010276) ? It looks to be the boat that is beached in pictured in the brochure posted above . Note the high lifeline and no handrail around the windshield (the only one I have seen made like this )

h2oboater 10-30-2018 01:01 AM


Originally Posted by edt (Post 4656593)
h2oboater , if lil rhino , wolverine and la salle were 1,2 & 3 , how is it that i have # 001 (cdb290010276) ? It looks to be the boat that is beached in pictured in the brochure posted above . Note the high lifeline and no handrail around the windshield (the only one i have seen made like this )

can't say why two #1 ???

EDT 10-30-2018 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by h2oboater (Post 4656675)
can't say why two #1 ???

Try explaining that to the DMV.

EDT 10-30-2018 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by EDT (Post 4656741)
Try explaining that to the DMV.

Maybe those 3 were the 1st staggered engine boats Cortes made but not the 1st 9mss.

Thriller62 10-31-2018 07:39 AM


EDT 10-31-2018 10:39 AM

Yes I did. But not at that price. ;)

Thriller62 10-31-2018 01:03 PM

I stopped and checked out the boat last summer. I do believe it’s one of the first 9 meters. The windshield is completely different from any other one I’ve ever seen. But definitely a factory item. You local to the area?

EDT 10-31-2018 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by Thriller62 (Post 4656916)
I stopped and checked out the boat last summer. I do believe it’s one of the first 9 meters. The windshield is completely different from any other one I’ve ever seen. But definitely a factory item. You local to the area?

Im in Kansas City it will be going to L.O.T.O.

Thriller62 10-31-2018 02:13 PM

Probably not to many mirages on LOTO. 👍🏻

EDT 10-31-2018 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by Thriller62 (Post 4656929)
Probably not to many mirages on LOTO. 👍🏻

Not that I have seen. It will be getting a good make over before it goes. I have all ready got the mechanical and electric's up to par. Working on the side windshield glasses now and putting new rubber glazing in all of it (that was hard to find) . In the spring it will be getting a new paint job and carpet.

EDT 10-31-2018 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by Thriller62 (Post 4656916)
I stopped and checked out the boat last summer. I do believe it’s one of the first 9 meters. The windshield is completely different from any other one I’ve ever seen. But definitely a factory item. You local to the area?

If the hull #'s mean what I have seen on another post it is the 1st one built.


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