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Top Banana 12-18-2014 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ratman72 (Post 4236470)
I thought that was why the crease was put in the side........by pulling in the topsides to take the flair out the bow and go from 9' to 7' 6"............ I thought that everything below the crease was basically the same, including the misalignment on the spray rails, although I have read that the rocker was modified as some point as well???

Yeh, the deck on Martini is skewed a little up front.

Can you shed any more light on the Performer story?

The plug maker told Don that was the last time he was going to do one of those creases. If you look at some period Glastrons, they had the crease a few years before it ever showed up in Miami..

Performer......I knew Bill and some of the other guys, but back then things moved so fast, you could not be sure who had which mold or who was making the XXX brand of boat now as compared to last week.

Redman 12-18-2014 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by Top Banana (Post 4236687)
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The plug maker told Don that was the last time he was going to do one of those creases. .

Hi Charlie---wasn't that Nicky??? He was sure prolific back then---

Ratman72 12-18-2014 03:35 PM

Charlie, I've always wondered, what is the engine in your avatar and what boat is it in?

hallj 12-18-2014 06:03 PM

Gene,

You're right. Nick Chapman. I thought the pattern was already built and then narrowed up later.
Shake down Bob and get some answers out of him.
Do you remember who raced with Preston when he had the 27 Magnum?

Jeff

Top Banana 12-18-2014 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by Ratman72 (Post 4236701)
Charlie, I've always wondered, what is the engine in your avatar and what boat is it in?

That was one of the two engines in my 38 foot Top Banana.

They were built by Stan Irwin of Custom Engine in Miami. Stan was the same guy who built the engines for Magoon when he did the Miami to New York record run.

The Miami to NY deal was that Stan would build the engines and if the motors broke down, it would be him who got the credit......However, if the boat broke the record, Stan would still get paid in full, but the story line would be the motors were built by Mercury Racing. Doc broke the record and did the run in 22 hours plus.

When I built my first offshore boat, a 24 foot banana, Don Aronow rigged it for me at Magnum...he owned both Cigarette and Magnum at the same time for a while. He said he had special engines for me as he wanted me to run in the Modified class not Production. Modified allowed engines to be tuned and changed for more power.

So the next thing I know, I meet Stan Irwin at his shop and he delivers two 350 cu in motors that are developing 400 HP each. That man could build some motors for sure. Video of my old boat running is on You tube ....search for Bushmills1979.

Top Banana 12-18-2014 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by Redman (Post 4236690)
Hi Charlie---wasn't that Nicky??? He was sure prolific back then---

Gene good to hear from you, we missed you at OFF. They had some Switzer wings there, you would have felt right at home. Reminded me of some crazy guy at the Outboard World Championship back in 69 in UU23, that boat was flying.

Yes, Mr. Chapman was the best in plugs and mold work.

You would also have some knowledge of that Miami to NY run with Stan Irwin engines that I just wrote about.

Redman 12-18-2014 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by Top Banana (Post 4236774)
That was one of the two engines in my 38 foot Top Banana.

They were built by Stan Irwin of Custom Engine in Miami. Stan was the same guy who built the engines for Magoon when he did the Miami to New York record run.

The Miami to NY deal was that Stan would build the engines and if the motors broke down, it would be him who got the credit......However, if the boat broke the record, Stan would still get paid in full, but the story line would be the motors were built by Mercury Racing. Doc broke the record and did the run in 22 hours plus.
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Hi Charlie----thanks for the great story about Stan. He built engines--large and small. Stan Irwin was my hero, my mentor, my boss, my co-driver, my best friend or years---


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Redman 12-18-2014 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by Ratman72 (Post 4236037)
It's from the original Champion Makers out of Dry Martini 35 Cig.

Mike Bontoft has both the original motors with Kiekhaefer injector systems and Kiekhaefer headers........

Ask Mike about this rod? The early KAM engines were using Carillos---back in 68--69 Wayne Meyer was building race 482s at the boathouse using these BIG HEAVY rods. Maybe from Vincenzo's 28' Magnum??

Wayne had a bright young mechanic working for him named Keith ---


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f_inscreenname 12-18-2014 10:51 PM

From last year's build

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The second set should be here tomorrow. Ya, I said second set. Found them online in the mid west about a year ago (part #'s make life easy). Been working on the guy ever since and he gave them up last week and according to tracking they should be here tomorrow. Did I mention I picked up a 427 tall block last week also? Building a clone 482 (really a 496 because boring the cylinders) to match the last one so I can dump both in the Nova.

Also from what I understand the Nova 24 was made from a 7 meter Donzi hull and a Cary deck. The 7 meter not being long enough and the Cary deck being to big there was some saws involved.

Redman 12-19-2014 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by Top Banana (Post 4236781)
Gene good to hear from you, we missed you at OFF. They had some Switzer wings there, you would have felt right at home. Reminded me of some crazy guy at the Outboard World Championship back in 69 in UU23, that boat was flying.
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Charlie---sorry I missed that. I have been trying to get Doc to go to the reunion. Maybe next year I can shame him to come in his new fractional??
The Switzer brothers were about 30 years ahead of the time-----the boats DID fly----


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