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ahlenius 08-22-2018 11:11 PM

Speed Kills
 
Has anyone seen the trailer for "Speed Kills" John Travolta plays Don Aronow even though they call him Ben Arownof Looks decent enough brings back the history of Thunder boat row & The Blue Thunder 39 Cat ( Of which mine was sold for private use)
should be a good movie for us old school guys....i would be interested in what Brownie has to say about it

TURBOED 08-24-2018 09:57 PM

just seen it but is not in theaters near me yet

chewiekw 08-27-2018 10:14 PM

When does it get released?

larslindroth 08-28-2018 12:25 AM

November 18th is the latest word on the theater release. It's been out on Virtual Reality 360 for download since May. Haven't watched it, and out of respect for late Don Aronow I won't watch the film either. Seen the trailers and read reviews about the film and though the film claims to only be inspired by the life story of Don Aronow, it is i.m.h.o. not good enough of an excuse to create a film that basically don't show him in a more positive light than this. The 'Speed Kills' book left a bad taste in my mouth and therefore I will not watch the film. Nobody is a saint, and I have a feeling that Don Aronow was a little bit to tough in business for some to deal with, and to create a character, inspired by Don Aronow's amazing life, look like a morally weak and questionable guy doesn't fly with me. Spend Your money on Allan 'Brownie' Brown's book "Tales From Thunderboat Row" and get to re-live the era with a smile on Your face.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...4847bafcb3.jpg

TURBOED 08-28-2018 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by larslindroth (Post 4646049)
November 18th is the latest word on the theater release. It's been out on Virtual Reality 360 for download since May. Haven't watched it, and out of respect for late Don Aronow I won't watch the film either. Seen the trailers and read reviews about the film and though the film claims to only be inspired by the life story of Don Aronow, it is i.m.h.o. not good enough of an excuse to create a film that basically don't show him in a more positive light than this. The 'Speed Kills' book left a bad taste in my mouth and therefore I will not watch the film. Nobody is a saint, and I have a feeling that Don Aronow was a little bit to tough in business for some to deal with, and to create a character, inspired by Don Aronow's amazing life, look like a morally weak and questionable guy doesn't fly with me. Spend Your money on Allan 'Brownie' Brown's book "Tales From Thunderboat Row" and get to re-live the era with a smile on Your face.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...4847bafcb3.jpg

was he a close friend of yours?

larslindroth 08-28-2018 02:42 PM

No, I did not know Don Aronow personally. Have spoken to his son Michael a couple of times and found him a very humble, kind person. Now what played a larger part on my opinion is that I spent quite a bit of time over the years speaking to Don's best buddy, journalist and author John O. Crouse, and he told me about Don as a human being. Additional input has been from Swedish friends in common that spent quite a bit of time with Don during the 60's and early 70's on the racing circuit. Everybody has labeled Don Aronow a gentleman and wonderful person to be around, and I'm truly sad that He didn't get to enjoy a longer life.

larslindroth 08-28-2018 02:53 PM

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...8f0ec77677.jpg

mitchie 08-31-2018 08:23 AM

Call me crazy.. But did Don not have a habit of sleeping with other dude's wives? Setting up people to fail in business dealings? I love the legend man.. One of the coolest guys ever. Clearly had a certain thing to him. I am not saying he deserved his fate, but people don't like being on the sh!t end of those things. Especially those on the fringes.

I'll watch the movie with a grain of salt. But hey.. Not everyone sees the world the same way I do.

TURBOED 08-31-2018 08:29 AM

I got the popcorn ready for when the movie comes out😂😂😂

rak rua 08-31-2018 10:26 PM

I can already see the reviews.........

Travolta did an adequate job of playing a younger man who was a driving force in the American powerboat industry. Ben Aronof (Travolta) was portrayed as a hard nosed, womanizing businessman who loved the attention that came with success in an industry mixed with celebrity fame and the seedy side of drugs and crime. His brash arrogance, financial success, a string of affairs and associations with the 'Demi-Monde' made him a target of many which ultimately lead to his demise.

For a fan of powerboats, there's a couple of good on water scenes, but not enough to make a movie. If you're looking for a biography, the name of the lead character helps to distance the film from the truth which enables the directors to use cinematic licence and concentrate on entertainment value for the box office. Unfortunately, it falls short on entertainment value, having a couple of mixed plots that don't really come together.

Despite a decent supporting cast, Travolta fails to deliver in this crime/action flick. Don't expect too much, 6 out of 10.

RR reviews.





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f_inscreenname 09-01-2018 12:26 AM


Originally Posted by rak rua (Post 4646787)
I can already see the reviews.........

Travolta did an adequate job of playing a younger man who was a driving force in the American powerboat industry. Ben Aronof (Travolta) was portrayed as a hard nosed, womanizing businessman who loved the attention that came with success in an industry mixed with celebrity fame and the seedy side of drugs and crime. His brash arrogance, financial success, a string of affairs and associations with the 'Demi-Monde' made him a target of many which ultimately lead to his demise.

For a fan of powerboats, there's a couple of good on water scenes, but not enough to make a movie. If you're looking for a biography, the name of the lead character helps to distance the film from the truth which enables the directors to use cinematic licence and concentrate on entertainment value for the box office. Unfortunately, it falls short on entertainment value, having a couple of mixed plots that don't really come together.

Despite a decent supporting cast, Travolta fails to deliver in this crime/action flick. Don't expect too much, 6 out of 10.

RR reviews.
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Look at you son....wow!
As for Don setting up people to fail, imho that is not the case. You have to understand just because today we think of these companies as world wide names, back then they were tiny little business on 188th street in little buildings and big parking lots with a cannel out back. Donzi's were not being pumped out by the thousands. They were in the low hundreds and out of that they had to pay the dealers, the sales guy, the people that built the boat, the lights and don't forget most of all the race team. These boat companies (that had big race teams) were rich guys hobbies and when it came time to make it a boring business that made money the fun was gone and it was time for Don to move on. The problem with Don leaving, the company didn't have Don the sales guy, face, race boat champion, etc, etc anymore. The magic was not the company. It was Don. Not saying people didn't over pay thinking they were gonna get that magic with the company but that was their fault.
Today it would be like someone creating some startup app or website. Sells it to someone (google, facebook) as fast as you can and go's on to do something else (another start up). People like Elon Musk don't run companies, they start them and other people run them. That's why his losing his mind.

rak rua 09-01-2018 01:09 AM


Originally Posted by f_inscreenname (Post 4646798)
Look at you son....wow!
As for Don setting up people to fail, imho that is not the case. You have to understand just because today we think of these companies as world wide names, back then they were tiny little business on 188th street in little buildings and big parking lots with a cannel out back. Donzi's were not being pumped out by the thousands. They were in the low hundreds and out of that they had to pay the dealers, the sales guy, the people that built the boat, the lights and don't forget most of all the race team. These boat companies (that had big race teams) were rich guys hobbies and when it came time to make it a boring business that made money the fun was gone and it was time for Don to move on. The problem with Don leaving, the company didn't have Don the sales guy, face, race boat champion, etc, etc anymore. The magic was not the company. It was Don. Not saying people didn't over pay thinking they were gonna get that magic with the company but that was their fault.
Today it would be like someone creating some startup app or website. Sells it to someone (google, facebook) as fast as you can and go's on to do something else (another start up). People like Elon Musk don't run companies, they start them and other people run them. That's why his losing his mind.

I'm just a 'child adult' having a fun guess at what the movie will portray. :)

I have no doubt what you have posted is accurate and as a powerboat fan, I'd rather see the truth, which is probably closer to your post than what I expect from the movie. I'll definitely see the movie if it comes to my part of the world. On another thread, someone suggested "straight to video" but I'm hoping for a little better.

RR

P.S. Yeah, Elon Musk has gone a bit fuzzy lately......



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Club Drew 09-01-2018 06:20 AM


Originally Posted by rak rua (Post 4646801)


I'm just a 'child adult' having a fun guess at what the movie will portray. :)

I have no doubt what you have posted is accurate and as a powerboat fan, I'd rather see the truth, which is probably closer to your post than what I expect from the movie. I'll definitely see the movie if it comes to my part of the world. On another thread, someone suggested "straight to video" but I'm hoping for a little better.

RR

P.S. Yeah, Elon Musk has gone a bit fuzzy lately......



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thirdchildhood 09-02-2018 07:07 AM

I like Travolta and will definitely see this film. I don't think it will appeal to a wide audience and may have a limited theater release before going to DVD.

f_inscreenname 09-02-2018 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by thirdchildhood (Post 4646884)
I like Travolta and will definitely see this film. I don't think it will appeal to a wide audience and may have a limited theater release before going to DVD.

The probable I have with John playing Don is John is 64 years old. Don died when he was 59. How is John gonna play a younger Don without a lot of CGI?

thirdchildhood 09-02-2018 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by f_inscreenname (Post 4646917)
The probable I have with John playing Don is John is 64 years old. Don died when he was 59. How is John gonna play a younger Don without a lot of CGI?

John is exactly two days older than me! 2-18-54 vs my 2-20-54

TURBOED 09-02-2018 02:15 PM

They made him look almost identical with those bushy long eyebrows,just looking at the trailer looks like Travolta did a great job.

Griff 10-04-2018 01:00 PM

US release date Nov 16th
https://www.powerboatracingworld.com...-release-date/

Top Banana 10-04-2018 01:30 PM

Met a guy at the gym this morning and he was in town for a break from making a movie in New York called...The Irish Bar.

We chatted a bit and I asked him if he knew of the Speed Kills movie. . No, had not heard of it, but told me that he thought it would be just like the movie he was working on.

By that he meant, that the movie will go into a few movie theaters at first, just to be allowed in the running for any awards it might claim and then it would go to Netflix or to DVD.

For The Irish Bar movie, they hired Al Pacino and Robert De Niro for the big names and then came up with a so so script and started filming. The method of delivery is so different today, the producers don't have to worry about getting in a a big movie chain for lot's of eyes to see their product.

I am not expecting much at all from Speed Kills. I will see it, but probably on a DVD when it comes out.

Sad as Don's real life story, is such a great Rags to Riches story about what was possible here in America at one time

beaver 3 10-04-2018 01:38 PM

ill watch it as a movie and try not to get to involved in the story line of what they portray the man as. i need to pony up and by brownies book.

BLAZE 10-05-2018 03:31 AM

Watch this↓


mountie 10-14-2018 12:29 PM

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...1ff96d48a4.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...8173a1a765.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...06e0c3ef94.jpg
I experienced the presence of DonAronow..... one photo shows him standing back, watching us on his "Garbrecht / Kieth Black/ Aronow " Unlimited tunnel boat experiment. I still own the "Speed Kills" book..... A lot of assumptions.... https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...5c351a43a8.jpg

ahlenius 11-19-2018 11:36 PM

I watched the movie tonight and felt it was okay....It made me feel glad that i own a piece of history.....From Thunder boat row, from that era. Its still solid and new 550 supercharged engines about to be installed. My question is where did they find the boat for the movie?
looks like the reg was MO 2279-FR. It had either TRS drives or Bravo # 2 drives.Not sure. Anyways watched it on VUDU cost me $7, so was well worth it .

TylerBurich 11-24-2018 08:42 AM

Watched it last night, wasn't as bad as all the hype. I enjoy any movie with boating scenes. The race through the storm scene was pretty hard to watch but other than that it wasn't terrible. Someday someone that truly understands the story will step up and produce a much easier to watch version. It is a great story but "Speed Kills" ventured far from truth.

Alwhite00 11-24-2018 10:05 AM

Just watched it, unbelievably bad storm scene. A 3 year old could do better. And why the hell didn’t they film it in Miami where they could have had actual time period accurate boats for filming? Cool story, just wish they would have did a better job on it all around.

if you didn’t know the story you would be lost. Here’s a thread that’s been running for a while.

https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/...ease-date.html

SB 11-24-2018 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by mountie (Post 4654159)


I experienced the presence of DonAronow..... one photo shows him standing back, watching us on his "Garbrecht / Kieth Black/ Aronow " Unlimited tunnel boat experiment. I still own the "Speed Kills" book..... A lot of assumptions.... https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...5c351a43a8.jpg

That engine cover looks familiar.......latest Fountain Kilo boat. Did it work better for Aronow/ .LOL.

onesickpantera 11-26-2018 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by mitchie (Post 4646671)
Call me crazy.. But did Don not have a habit of sleeping with other dude's wives? Setting up people to fail in business dealings? I love the legend man.. One of the coolest guys ever. Clearly had a certain thing to him. I am not saying he deserved his fate, but people don't like being on the sh!t end of those things. Especially those on the fringes.

I'll watch the movie with a grain of salt. But hey.. Not everyone sees the world the same way I do.

You forgot to mention that he also sold boats to known drug runners, and then decided to rub elbows with HW and sell boats to the Customs Service. :party-smiley-004:

mountie 11-26-2018 05:25 PM

Back in the day, ( '70's & mid '80's ).... I would hear conversations from powerboat guys..... Don would sell Cigarette to some rich guy who wanted to brag that they " owned Cigarette "..... then buy it back for a profit.... then do it again. I also would hear about drug runners complaining that the boat was not as fast as DEA boats. Don would remind them that " You guys are carrying tons of "stuff" in the boat, where the DEA only had fuel".
Even though the DEA was bugging him, I heard that his death was due to "sleeping with the wrong guy's wife"...

But this is what I heard, NOT what I know. He was still a genius. ( Like Picasso...... quite colorful ...... as are many famous personalities )

Quite the gentleman when I met him at our Unlimited Hydroplane race in San Diego with the "Aronow Unlimited" tunnelboat.

MrOffshore 12-26-2018 10:55 PM

Watched the movie this evening...interesting take with some liberties on the truth, but worth the watch fro $7. I agree with the above post, if you aren't familiar with the facts, the movie was a bit difficult to follow...or possibly, knowing the facts made it difficult to follow because we're looking for things that actually happened, but weren't shown. The character development was just OK in my opinion...it showed Don a mans man and the struggles he had with trying to do things himself and without the mafia ties...so I don't think it shed him in poor light...at least not too poor of light. I was boggled why some names were changed (Don, Ben, etc), but Lanksy's name was used.

It was truly a shame that Don was killed, he had a lot more to offer the offshore powerboat industry as a whole...would be interesting to see where he would have taken things...I guess Reggie really filled in the mystique in his absence.

Tractionless 01-06-2019 08:22 PM

In the grand scheme of things the Fast and Furious movies were more enjoyable from a gear head standpoint. Even if much of F&F was silly talk, at least they were working on cars, talking technical at times etc. There was zilch of that in Speed Kills which left much to be desired. Some technical talk about the hulls, engines, etc. would have made it much more interesting and a better representation of Don's offering to the industry. Couldn't care less that he cheated on wives or stole women from sultans, cheap filler. Moreover, the cinematography of the big storm in the Miami to Nassau race was utterly horrible, unrealistic and of course not survivable for a ship let alone a 30' Cig Boat.

mountie 01-06-2019 08:29 PM

What else would you expect from Hollywood..... a shallow movie. Many of Hollywood's movies are made to give themselves a paycheck... not for us.

They work "hard" on the trailer......only...... ( pun )

Tractionless 01-07-2019 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by mountie (Post 4667118)
What else would you expect from Hollywood..... a shallow movie. Many of Hollywood's movies are made to give themselves a paycheck... not for us.

They work "hard" on the trailer......only...... ( pun )

I haven't been to a movie theater in 10+ years due to exactly what you describe.

Keith

mountie 01-08-2019 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by Tractionless (Post 4667257)
I haven't been to a movie theater in 10+ years due to exactly what you describe.

Keith

( Kinda off-topic)...... With today's 60" TV's & my WONDERFUL Bose sound bar & sub, who needs to waste stupid dollars at a theater anyway?
Plus, I can re-live the old fashion "intermission " and go out for a cigar!! :cool-smiley-027:


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